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OtaconZ 07-23-2010 03:42 PM

Tiny chips - Who else has them?
 
Hey guys, this might be a dumb question, but on close inspection of my Z I found that I have several tiny "white" chips. They are very, very small abd are primarily on the hood and fender / wheel well area. Does anyone else have these / is it normal, or is it some kind of defect? My car is black btw.

Thanks

Modshack 07-23-2010 03:44 PM

Sure it's normal....Soft paint, lousy roads around DC. Get a clear-bra if you want to protect the paint..

lllll210lllll 07-23-2010 03:46 PM

yep... :facepalm: thats what sucks bout the z . have so many rock chips and only had my car for about 3 or 4 months. will probabaly get mine repainted and mayyyybe itll solve the problem?

Liquid_G 07-23-2010 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OtaconZ (Post 641434)
Hey guys, this might be a dumb question, but on close inspection of my Z I found that I have several tiny "white" chips. They are very, very small abd are primarily on the hood and fender / wheel well area. Does anyone else have these / is it normal, or is it some kind of defect? My car is black btw.

Thanks

You and everyone else in the entire world with a black car has them..

6MT 07-23-2010 03:53 PM

I do. It's pretty soft paint.

Hugoneus 07-23-2010 04:03 PM

Yeah... I read the horror stories online before I bought the car. So I had a clear bra installed on mine. Works pretty well and is pretty much invisible.

shadoquad 07-23-2010 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugoneus (Post 641461)
Yeah... I read the horror stories online before I bought the car. So I had a clear bra installed on mine. Works pretty well and is pretty much invisible.

Same here.

flashburn 07-23-2010 04:24 PM

There are only two types of 370Z owners:
A) People who bought a clearbra and are happy they did.
B) People that didn't, and are regretting it.

;)

lllll210lllll 07-23-2010 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 641496)
There are only two types of 370Z owners:
A) People who bought a clearbra and are happy they did.
B) People that didn't, and are regretting it.

;)

lmao. true. :facepalm:

6MT 07-23-2010 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 641496)
There are only two types of 370Z owners:
A) People who bought a clearbra and are happy they did.
B) People that didn't, and are regretting it.

;)

I'm not a fan of clear bras. After a few years, they really don't look that great. Yes, I have a few chips. But it really doesn't bother me that much. If it did, I would park the car in the garage and never take it out. After all ... I bought it to use it.

6MT 07-23-2010 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugoneus (Post 641461)
Works pretty well and is pretty much invisible.

Just wait a year or two and tell us whether it's "pretty much invisible".

Lemers 07-23-2010 05:34 PM

Most of my chips are where the clear bra would have been

PapoZalsa 07-23-2010 06:05 PM

I'm getting my clear bra installed tomorrow. Plus I bought hood bra, double protection. ;)

Montez 07-23-2010 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 641649)
I'm not a fan of clear bras. After a few years, they really don't look that great. Yes, I have a few chips. But it really doesn't bother me that much. If it did, I would park the car in the garage and never take it out. After all ... I bought it to use it.

Agreed!

Montez 07-23-2010 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 641651)
Just wait a year or two and tell us whether it's "pretty much invisible".

You are right, my boy has it on his 07 350Z. He had it installed June 07, now you can see the edges clearly and it has this sorta brownish/orangish tint to it, he is pissed.

flashburn 07-23-2010 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 641651)
Just wait a year or two and tell us whether it's "pretty much invisible".

I'm not too worried... the VentureShield product has a lifetime warranty against basically anything other than physical damage. :)

Zsteve 07-23-2010 06:52 PM

better to ask who doesnt have them.

Horseface 07-23-2010 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 641496)
There are only two types of 370Z owners:
A) People who bought a clearbra and are happy they did.
B) People that didn't, and are regretting it.

;)

C) People who didn't, but don't give a fvck.

:tiphat:

OldGuy 07-23-2010 07:21 PM

Z's lousy soft paint requires Clear Bra. Got mine put on before I would drive the car out. Usually guaranteed for life. The Clear Bra enables me to relax and enjoy my car---without the Clear Bra, I'd be a nervous wreck. Repair your car then get the Clear Bra and relax and enjoy your Z.

chuckd05 07-23-2010 07:25 PM

I repainted my g35 coupe bumper twice, once at 40k and once at about 85k ... Second time I asked to the shop to go crazy on clear and it seemed like it was working better... but it was a few hundred each time, and both times brought the car back to mint condition...

its an excuse to get a lip or aftermarket bumper... I put the 05 bumper on my 03 coupe the first time I repainted it.... Im set on doing it all over again with this Z

Zaggeron 07-23-2010 07:33 PM

I know a guy with a Nismo with clear bra. First time I saw the car the bra was invisible -- couldn't really see it all all. A month later I saw the car again and there was this fine while line across the hood where wax or dust or whatever had built up along the edge of the bra. I don't think the clear bra is guaranteed to never be visible or fade from micro-hazing. They are just guaranteed not to peel or disintegrate, etc., but they are not guaranteed to always look like the day they were put on.

I'd actually obsess more about the condition of the bra more than I currently do about the few rock chips I have at 6 months hehe.

cerruto 07-23-2010 07:39 PM

I had clear bra installed on my car two days after I recieved her. I had on scratch on the splitter before the install. 1,900 miles later this is how the car looks. Clear bra on: full front bumper, 1/4 hood, 1/5 front fenders, A pillers, 1/3 front of roof, full side mirrors, back 1/3 of side skirts, and 1/2 of the front of the rear fenders in front of the wheels. I think its a great investment.

Sorry for the water, it started raining right after wash, wax and polish but I wasnt going to let it stop me....
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9158/dsc05167j.jpg

Zaggeron 07-23-2010 07:48 PM

Looks good, but 1900 miles is too early to tell. Post the same pic angle @ 30k.

It's a personal choice, but I wouldn't think of it as an investment. It's not likely the resale value at 50k miles will be much affected by whether the car has a clear bra. if I planned to trade in or sell @ 20k, then it might have a different opinion.

cerruto 07-23-2010 07:59 PM

^ I have had clear bra on a 2003 Audi TT (Up to 36K miles) and a 2007 MazdaSpeed6 (Up to 32K miles). I didnt clear bra my 2006 S2000, or my 2006 Evo9. After the TT I skipped out on putting on clear bra and regreted it on both cars. Its true that the clear bra can get beat up but it stands up to everying better then paint does. Clear bra also lets me control my crazy thoughts about damaged paint.

Zaggeron 07-23-2010 08:09 PM

Sounds like a clear bra was the right choice for you :tup: For me, probably not.

flashburn 07-23-2010 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaggeron (Post 641800)
I know a guy with a Nismo with clear bra. First time I saw the car the bra was invisible -- couldn't really see it all all. A month later I saw the car again and there was this fine while line across the hood where wax or dust or whatever had built up along the edge of the bra. I don't think the clear bra is guaranteed to never be visible or fade from micro-hazing. They are just guaranteed not to peel or disintegrate, etc., but they are not guaranteed to always look like the day they were put on.

That's why when your waxing it you don't run the wax along the line of the clear bra... duh.


BTW The VentureShield warranty is against "cracking, bubbling, or yellowing."

PapoZalsa 07-23-2010 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Montez (Post 641737)
You are right, my boy has it on his 07 350Z. He had it installed June 07, now you can see the edges clearly and it has this sorta brownish/orangish tint to it, he is pissed.

They are supposed to have a 5 year warranty on them, at least. I will not spend that kind of money if there is no waranty on the product nationwide.

Aslo take under consideration that you get what you pay for! ;)



http://www.ultrashield-hr.com/faqs.htm

How long will UltraShield last?

Our product is warranted for 4 years against cracking or yellowing and the film has been known to last as long as 7 years. Of course, whether the vehicle is garaged and/or washed and waxed on a regular basis will make a big difference.

Pharmacist 07-24-2010 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 641496)
There are only two types of 370Z owners:
A) People who bought a clearbra and are happy they did.
B) People that didn't, and are regretting it.

;)

i guess i fit the second choice :shakes head:

fairladyZ34 07-24-2010 12:52 AM

i would have liked to clear bra before my bumper got bug splatter and what not everywhere but oh well, i can use it as an excuse for a new body kit further down the raod

Lemers 07-24-2010 12:57 AM

There are a lot of highwind days here and due to the sand it damages the paint all the time. my insurance allows for one repaint

Zsteve 07-24-2010 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 642368)
There are a lot of highwind days here and due to the sand it damages the paint all the time. my insurance allows for one repaint

thats cool who is your ins company? I dont think Ive seen you driving around yet, what areas are you mostly in?

Lemers 07-24-2010 10:21 AM

My insurance caters to the military and although I bought my Z in SA I live in El Paso for hopefully only the next 2 yrs.

Juleous 07-24-2010 10:23 AM

I saved my $1000 for a repaint in three years. For me if I spent the money on the bra and saw the scratch I have on my rear bumper I would freak out, but now it's just another excuse to replace the crappy Nissan paint. Plus I am going to put on the Amuse Vestito body kit on anyways which will require a repaint. Every few years I plan to change the car to keep it new to me so I will likely never buy a clear bra.

Like a few have said a bad clear bra looks 10x worse than a couple of rock chips, plus over $1000 for it that's a third of a new paint job. I will stay away from the bra and just repaint when needed, the entire car gets chips and scratches not just the front.

OtaconZ 07-26-2010 01:02 PM

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the clear bra. I had one on my last car for about 2 years and when I took it off, the portion of the car that had the clear bra on it was noticeably a different shade than the rest of the car.

Holliday 07-26-2010 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 641496)
There are only two types of 370Z owners:
A) People who bought a clearbra and are happy they did.
B) People that didn't, and are regretting it.

;)

:iagree:

:happydance:

cruzmisl 07-26-2010 02:08 PM

How much do decent repaints actually cost?

flashburn 07-26-2010 03:56 PM

A repaint to a completely different color from a good place is at least $5000, but could run up to $7000. At least that was the quick ballpark quote I was given from a local shop that is known to be one of the best and specializes in exotics.

OtaconZ 07-27-2010 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 645237)
A repaint to a completely different color from a good place is at least $5000, but could run up to $7000. At least that was the quick ballpark quote I was given from a local shop that is known to be one of the best and specializes in exotics.

Yeah, if you want to go on the cheap you could get one for about $1000, prob wouldn't be a good idea though.

Holliday 07-27-2010 01:06 PM

BAM!

Whole car painting | Car Painting Options | Maaco Auto Body Shop

:bowrofl:

BeachZTT 07-27-2010 02:37 PM

Given what I had read before my purchase about soft paint/clearcoat, there was no way I was going to drive the car before the UltraShield went on. I personally think it was money well spent for the peace of mind alone.


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