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kenchan 06-30-2010 07:48 AM

Yah, hair drier is fine, but I have this smaller heat gun that blows precisely to the part I'm heating. I put my thumb next to where I'm heating so that I can feel how hot the area is getting not to damage it.

Thanks guys. The CF film I had I bought a long time ago in Japan at a hobby shop. I'm not sure what the material is but I used it on previous car door switch trims and lasted a long time. Like yrs without fading.
Didn't have these nice 3M materials back then so we only had access to these printed simulated sheets. Its super thin and wraps very easily to the contours.

I have some other thicker CF looking stuff my wife bought in Japan long time ago which requires me to spray adhesive on the back side (or get some large thin double stick tape). I might use that for the door trims down the road.

kenchan 06-30-2010 08:34 AM

Those gauge hats (3) are all the same size, correct? Anyone know? :p

simota1 06-30-2010 11:16 AM

pretty sure they are all the same size

kenchan 06-30-2010 11:33 AM

yah, from a manufacturing perspective i doubt they would use 3 different sizes. be too much work.

i ordered up some of that 3M stuff. :p should have it by Saturday, hopefully.

just a sidenote: my fujimura CF rear diffuser shipped... should have by Sat too. :p

simota1 06-30-2010 11:36 AM

:tup: post pics my brotha!!!!! gonna be sick

kenchan 06-30-2010 11:49 AM

after i wrap the gauge hats i think im going to make those triangles for the door latch area. i doubt i can wrap the entire piece without removing it. im too lazy to remove parts from my car right now unless it's easy. dont want to bother with potential rattles down the road.

here's some ideas for you guys to try with your cutting and pasting skillz...

http://www.carid.com/images/Nissan/NN3709B.jpg

NewYorkJon34 06-30-2010 01:49 PM

^Where did that diagram come from?

NewYorkJon34 06-30-2010 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 599545)
this is not the 3M stuff, but you can do the same. i just had this stuff laying around...


http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...4-img-0145.jpg

that is soo badass, looks like I have a new project to work on, lol So all you do is cut the shape, stick it on, add some heat, apply it like tint and thats it?

kenchan 06-30-2010 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 600235)
^Where dd that diagram come from?

it's a real CF trim overlay CarID.net or CarID.com sells. i have one coming to me but do not plan on using all the bits. if the NiDoc sheets were glossy i would've just made my own but oh well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 600242)
that is soo badass, looks like I have a new project to work on, lol So all you do is cut the shape, stick it on, add some heat, apply it like tint and thats it?

yah, cut the outlines as close as you can, stick it on, heat it up and press it down and it will contour to the curves and lines. once you get the hang of it, it's pretty easy. unlike tint though, i dont use soapy solution for these.

kenchan 06-30-2010 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simota1 (Post 599989)
pretty sure they are all the same size

pretty sure those gauge hats are the same size, but there are 3 different part numbers to them...:icon14: probably due to mounting tab locations or something... dang. do those things just pop out? (Just pull?)

http://www.courtesyparts.com/images/z34/z34_680-2.gif

NewYorkJon34 06-30-2010 04:17 PM

So those are real carbon fiber pieces?, but do they stick on top of the old pieces or do they replace the part all together?

AK370Z 06-30-2010 06:07 PM

Not sure if anyone cares but TODAY IS THE LAST DAY for FREE shipping (total over $50) at Carbonfiberfilm. They had this sale whole month of June. I am just letting people know :tiphat:

Carbon Fiber Film | Dedicated To Selling 3M Carbon Fiber DI-NOC Vinyl

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...com/cfgear.png

TongMan 06-30-2010 06:24 PM

Good thing I just ordered mine today. Can't wait to wrap my fangs and rear valence.

kenchan 06-30-2010 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 600481)
So those are real carbon fiber pieces?, but do they stick on top of the old pieces or do they replace the part all together?

The ones that CarID sells is real carbon fiber but overlays like the B-Pillar overlays. I'm not the biggest fan of overlays but since the Z's door trim (switch control trim) is recessed I can get away with these overlays. Also for the stereo trim since I don't want to uninstall my HU again I'm going to use that HU piece as well. The other bits I probably won't use. :D

tonybui 06-30-2010 09:12 PM

Wish my hands are handy, I would make a mess haha

kenchan 06-30-2010 11:19 PM

drawing removed because the paws and clips were NOT in the locations that were in the service manual! :mad:

see later post where the clips are (the pict with the broken posts)...

Windex_ 06-30-2010 11:21 PM

I dont use the 3M stuff but I have my own vinyl that is very similar to 3M but I apply my own adhesive. Some of what I have done.. This was the 19th IS250/350 I have done.
http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/SL730419.jpg
http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/SL730432.jpg
http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/SL730420.jpg
http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/SL730426.jpg
http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/SL730439.jpg

NovoWorks 07-01-2010 07:13 AM

Looks good.... we do more exterior then interior jobs, but here's some pieces from a Supra dash we recently did.

http://mike.napurano.com/album/listp...obbdlrso&1.jpg

Oh, and raw material is available here too.

m4a1mustang 07-01-2010 07:57 AM

Wow that's really nice.

kenchan 07-01-2010 10:53 AM

looks good~!

so anyone want to buy my evo-r B-pillars so that i can wrap my stockers with this 3M stuff that's making its way to me now? hahaha. :p it's pretty much new condition.

kenchan 07-01-2010 10:34 PM

was trying to take off the gauge hat without breaking the brackets but
not knowing where they were clipped, i broke them off. :icon14: :rofl2:

considering i would need to tear off the brackets on all 3 of them i decided
to abandon doing the CF sheet on them because the last thing i need is
rattles from the dash. these things cost a whopping $54 each. :eek: :eek: :eek:

i used some mounting tape and placed it back on the gauge. it's back on
there perfectly so cant tell it was ever removed but be aware where the
posts are if you are planning to remove them.

http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...-hat-posts.jpg

kenchan 07-01-2010 10:40 PM

btw, i removed the earlier post with illustration from the service manual for the gauge hats because the paw and clip locations in the illustration are not accurate.

kenchan 07-02-2010 07:02 PM

my 3M sheet came in so made below.

so much nicer than the EvoR B-Pillars...

http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...4-b-pillar.jpg

didn't have to remove and wrapped around the sides.

door jam side:
http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...5-closeup1.jpg

window side:
http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...6-closeup2.jpg

ofcourse we need CF door trims as well... :p i have real CF overlays coming to me
next week but oh well..

took me some time to get it just right...

http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...9-template.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...river-trim.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...enger-trim.jpg

:p

m4a1mustang 07-02-2010 07:04 PM

That does look a lot nicer. That's some pretty trick stuff... looks like dry cf.

I would be interested to see what it looks like sprayed with clear.

kenchan 07-03-2010 07:25 AM

Yah, you'd need to remove the piece off the car to clear coat it separately. The material forms with heat so not sure how that affects bonding with the clear on a hot day(?).

To me the convenience of overlays is it can be applied without trim removal.

Going to be working on the HU trim today...since I can't use my heat gun (HU has touch screen and don't want to take apart my stereo again) it will not be wrapped around. Will see how well it turns out. :p I have my doubts but if it sucks I can always peel it off. :D

m4a1mustang 07-03-2010 07:32 AM

Good luck with the HU stuff. Interested to see how it all turns out. :)

NovoWorks 07-03-2010 07:56 AM

I only have quick access to 1 example pic we've done.... can find more later if interested.

http://mike.napurano.com/album/listp...rbepopbj&1.jpg

TongMan 07-03-2010 11:51 AM

Dang, I can't get a correct outline of these two trims. How were you able to get the correct cutout? Can you scan your cutout?

kenchan 07-03-2010 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 604869)
Dang, I can't get a correct outline of these two trims. How were you able to get the correct cutout? Can you scan your cutout?

Hahaha. :D

What I do is place a piece of paper over the trim and use a stylus and press down, get the basic outline. Then it's all trial and error from there. If you cut too much, just use masking tape on both sides and retry.

The HU one is pretty hard to do... I'm not done yet on that one. :D

kenchan 07-03-2010 03:26 PM

Novo-
Lookin' good! GD HU, huh? :D

Windex_ 07-03-2010 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 603929)
That does look a lot nicer. That's some pretty trick stuff... looks like dry cf.

I would be interested to see what it looks like sprayed with clear.

It doesnt work if you clear it, it looks like hell its been tried and its never worked.

kenchan 07-03-2010 06:26 PM

i finished the HU, but my profile here does not allow more pict uploads.. out of memory... so i can't upload any more picts. :icon14:

so, i leave it up to your imagination. :rofl2:

it looks great btw. :p

kenchan 07-03-2010 06:36 PM

... or not...

http://www.the370z.com/members/kensa...-hu-before.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/kensa...f-template.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/kensa...6-hu-after.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/kensa...-hu-after2.jpg

m4a1mustang 07-03-2010 06:37 PM

Looks very nice!

kenchan 07-03-2010 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 605295)
Looks very nice!

thanks. :tup: it took me a couple of hours to get the template just right... :icon14:

even got bothered by some indian neighbor just walking into my garage. 'hallo, kensan!'
WTF man...

kenchan 07-03-2010 08:47 PM

redid the steering wheel CF trim to match the rest...

http://www.the370z.com/members/kensa...wheel-trim.jpg

also did the top triangle on the door trim lever area... :p

http://www.the370z.com/members/kensa...r-top-trim.jpg

kenchan 07-05-2010 04:25 PM

can't forget the visors. :p

http://www.the370z.com/members/kensa...781-visor2.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/kensa...780-visor1.jpg

i think im pretty much done for now. i still have a good 12x12 size left. :D

209Z 07-05-2010 07:02 PM

what color is that vinyl and how did you do the visor? Looks clean!

m4a1mustang 07-05-2010 07:07 PM

Looks good, kenchan.

kenchan 07-05-2010 07:13 PM

I'm using the black sheet for everything. :)
doing the visors is the same. Just cut to size, heat it up, wrap the edges.


Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 607724)
Looks good, kenchan.

Thanks! :D


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