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redondoaveb 02-07-2020 12:30 PM

Theft proof screw on steering wheel airbag assembly
 
I was going to change the steering wheel airbag in my car and found that nissan has installed a theft proof screw on the drivers side airbag mount. The passenger side is the standard tamper proof torx. I can't find the tool anywhere. Anybody else have this issue? And if so, what did you do? Fvk nissan!

Jayhovah 02-07-2020 12:51 PM

the procedure might be in the FSM, no?


What does a theft proof screw look like and how does it work? Just curious... have dealt with plenty of tamper proof screws...

redondoaveb 02-07-2020 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3907035)
the procedure might be in the FSM, no?


What does a theft proof screw look like and how does it work? Just curious... have dealt with plenty of tamper proof screws...

I looked in the fsm, it just shows the torx screw. It looks similar to a tamper proof torx but has a different pattern. A torx doesn't even come close to fitting.

Waiz 02-07-2020 01:14 PM

http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...l-removal.html

I had to buy a T30 for my Z33, you guys have the same bolt

I would buy a set that has different sizes just to be certain. Was a PITA to remove my MAF recently and it had a similar bolt.

Pep Boys sells a set with different sizes

NorthStyle 02-07-2020 01:16 PM

If you have a local Lowes/Ace/Home Depot they should have it. I got my set from Amazon since I wasn't in a rush for time and they were cheaper

redondoaveb 02-07-2020 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Waiz (Post 3907037)
http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...l-removal.html

I had to buy a T30 for my Z33, you guys have the same bolt

I would buy a set that has different sizes just to be certain. Was a PITA to remove my MAF recently and it had a similar bolt.

Pep Boys sells a set with different sizes

The passenger side is a T30. The drivers side is a proprietary nissan theft proof screw.

redondoaveb 02-07-2020 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NorthStyle (Post 3907038)
If you have a local Lowes/Ace/Home Depot they should have it. I got my set from Amazon since I wasn't in a rush for time and they were cheaper

It's a proprietary nissan theft proof screw, home improvement stores can't carry the tool.

redondoaveb 02-07-2020 01:40 PM

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Here's what it looks like.

Ghostvette 02-07-2020 01:53 PM

https://www.getoemparts.com/oem-part...UaAqX4EALw_wcB

The description shows the removal tool as part of the kit for the screw. I'm not sure this will help...

I found the key kit, but it says it's available to Nissan dealers only.

Ghostvette 02-07-2020 02:01 PM

Another link
https://carefordescientific.com/otc-...-bag-lock-set/

NorthStyle 02-07-2020 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3907041)
It's a proprietary nissan theft proof screw, home improvement stores can't carry the tool.

Ahh... no clue then. When I changed my wheel out I only had the tamper proof torx.

redondoaveb 02-07-2020 02:15 PM

Yeah, I might have to take it to the dealer and pay them to remove it. :mad:

redondoaveb 02-07-2020 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NorthStyle (Post 3907045)
Ahh... no clue then. When I changed my wheel out I only had the tamper proof torx.

My 2017 was the same as yours

Ghostvette 02-07-2020 02:21 PM

It's possible that Joby might have the tool, you could PM him...

redondoaveb 02-07-2020 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3907051)
It's possible that Joby might have the tool, you could PM him...

Good thought, thanks. :tiphat:

Spooler 02-07-2020 02:31 PM

Snap-On man is your friend.

redondoaveb 02-07-2020 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3907055)
Snap-On man is your friend.

I believe the tool can only be sold to an authorized nissan dealer.

Ghostvette 02-07-2020 02:50 PM

I looked through the snap-on on-line catalog, I couldn't find it under the OTC number.

redondoaveb 02-07-2020 03:06 PM

I don't know why nissan only did it on certain years.

Jayhovah 02-07-2020 03:06 PM

In the past when I haven't had the appropriate screwdriver I have used a dremel+abrasive cutoff disk to grind a slot into the head of the screw and then remove with a flat head screwdriver.

redondoaveb 02-07-2020 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3907063)
In the past when I haven't had the appropriate screwdriver I have used a dremel+abrasive cutoff disk to grind a slot into the head of the screw and then remove with a flat head screwdriver.

That's one of my plans but the problem is you have to destroy the plastic trim piece that has the access holes for the airbags screws in order to get to the screws. It attaches to the steering wheel. I found the trim piece from a salvage yard on facebook for $35.00.

Rusty 02-07-2020 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3907043)
https://www.getoemparts.com/oem-part...UaAqX4EALw_wcB

The description shows the removal tool as part of the kit for the screw. I'm not sure this will help...
I found the key kit, but it says it's available to Nissan dealers only.

This is the bolt only kit. Does not include the key.

Rusty 02-07-2020 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3907044)

Everything I read. All of the kits are dealer only.

redondoaveb 02-07-2020 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3907145)
Everything I read. All of the kits are dealer only.

I might have found a company on ebay. I messaged them and ask if it included the tool because their kit was $22.00. They replied and ask for my VIN#. I'm hoping that means their verifying that it's not a stolen car and will sell me the tool.

JARblue 02-08-2020 12:46 AM

A tamper-proof or vandal-proof torx bit has a hole in the middle of the bit. Easy to find. Harbor Freight has a cheap security bit set of 50 bits or something for like $10. Although the particular set I'm thinking of may not have a large enough bit for this job.

For the tamper-proof proprietary Nissan bolt, I have seen people drill out the star points on the inside of the bit and add a bite point to the rounded outside edges and then use a large tamper-proof torx bit to remove it. A small router bit on a Dremel does quick work from what I've seen on Youtube.

God-Speed 02-08-2020 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3907059)
I believe the tool can only be sold to an authorized nissan dealer.

Don't go to Nissan for this!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3907155)
A tamper-proof or vandal-proof torx bit has a hole in the middle of the bit. Easy to find. Harbor Freight has a cheap security bit set of 50 bits or something for like $10. Although the particular set I'm thinking of may not have a large enough bit for this job.

For the tamper-proof proprietary Nissan bolt, I have seen people drill out the star points on the inside of the bit and add a bite point to the rounded outside edges and then use a large tamper-proof torx bit to remove it. A small router bit on a Dremel does quick work from what I've seen on Youtube.

Like James said, you can get this at Habor Freight , Home Depot, or even PepBoys where I got my set. :tup:

redondoaveb 02-08-2020 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by God-Speed (Post 3907175)
Don't go to Nissan for this!!!



Like James said, you can get this at Habor Freight , Home Depot, or even PepBoys where I got my set. :tup:

This bolt is a proprietary bolt from nissan, it is not a T-30 torx tamper proof bolt. You cannot get the tool from harbor freight, home depot or pep boys. I have a full set of tamper proof torx wrenches and none of them come close to fitting.

I tried drilling out the star section but it's hardened steel and couldn't be drilled. In order to be able to get a dremel on it I would need to destroy the trim piece attached to the steering wheel. I'm looking for that trim piece before I tear up my current one.

God-Speed 02-08-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3907207)
This bolt is a proprietary bolt from nissan, it is not a T-30 torx tamper proof bolt. You cannot get the tool from harbor freight, home depot or pep boys. I have a full set of tamper proof torx wrenches and none of them come close to fitting.

I tried drilling out the star section but it's hardened steel and couldn't be drilled. In order to be able to get a dremel on it I would need to destroy the trim piece attached to the steering wheel. I'm looking for that trim piece before I tear up my current one.

Take a picture of it if you can.

redondoaveb 02-08-2020 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3907155)
A tamper-proof or vandal-proof torx bit has a hole in the middle of the bit. Easy to find. Harbor Freight has a cheap security bit set of 50 bits or something for like $10. Although the particular set I'm thinking of may not have a large enough bit for this job.

For the tamper-proof proprietary Nissan bolt, I have seen people drill out the star points on the inside of the bit and add a bite point to the rounded outside edges and then use a large tamper-proof torx bit to remove it. A small router bit on a Dremel does quick work from what I've seen on Youtube.

Do you have a link to the youtube video, I haven't been able to find anything.

Rusty 02-08-2020 12:18 PM

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Here's what it looks like I think. It's no Torx. Looks like a small wheel lock.

Jayhovah 02-08-2020 03:17 PM

Can you epoxy a throw-away socket on it?

redondoaveb 02-08-2020 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3907241)
Can you epoxy a throw-away socket on it?

Nissan loctite's the **** out of the bolts, I get the feeling the epoxt wouldn't hold.

SouthArk370Z 02-08-2020 04:47 PM

Something like a Multi-socket might work if the pins are small enough to fit in the groove.

redondoaveb 02-08-2020 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3907252)
Something like a Multi-socket might work if the pins are small enough to fit in the groove.

I ordered a couple of carbide drill bits. I'm going to see if I can drill it and get it out with an ez out.

jchammond 02-08-2020 06:33 PM

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These should remove it, if it’s exposed & RH threads :ugh2:

jchammond 02-08-2020 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3907257)
I ordered a couple of carbide drill bits. I'm going to see if I can drill it and get it out with an ez out.

:wtf2:

redondoaveb 02-08-2020 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3907279)
These should remove it, if it’s exposed & RH threads :ugh2:

:iagree: those should do it. I just ordered a set. When I saw your post I remembered that I bought a set to remove a caliper bolt that I damaged on my eclipse. Unfortunately, I don't have one small enough though. I forgot about the bolt extractors. Thank you sir :woot:

OxZed 02-08-2020 08:50 PM

I don't know folks … I've removed/replaced the airbags on two (2) different 2017's and had no problem. Don't recall using anything that wasn't in my Harbor Freight collection.

Rusty 02-08-2020 08:51 PM

If that kit has a small enough bit to fit on the bolt. Use an impact driver with it. The type you use with a hammer. Put the bit on a small extension to impact driver. Using a hammer, Tap on the end of the driver, while twisting it with your hand. Should loosen up. I've done this with screws on motorcycle cases for years

https://www.amazon.com/Vessel-NO-250...71485441&psc=1

vtec to vvel 02-08-2020 09:05 PM

You all have some very creative ways to get around the theft-deterrent for the steering wheel assembly.

If my steering wheel assembly looks like it was tampered with and/or missing, everyone in this thread will be my prime suspects.


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