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SunnyDays 11-08-2018 10:38 AM

gt3rs style vents 370z?
 
Hey all,

Has anyone mimicked the gt3 rs vents on a 370z?

Thanks

cooltoy 11-08-2018 10:53 AM

http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...der-vents.html

NorthStyle 11-08-2018 10:59 AM

Can't make up my mind if I want these or not... so many things going on ugh

OptionZero 11-08-2018 11:42 AM

we know for SURE you didn't search since that Carbon vent thread is RECENT

SunnyDays 11-08-2018 05:29 PM

Hey guys, I am specifically referring to the rear vents, sorry should have been more clear in the OP.

https://st.automobilemag.com/uploads...end-detail.jpg

OptionZero 11-08-2018 05:58 PM

you gotta be ******* kidding me

are you referring to the vent under the spoiler, between the taillights?

you know what a 911 would have that and NOT say . . . any front engined car, right?

SunnyDays 11-09-2018 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3797665)
you gotta be ******* kidding me

are you referring to the vent under the spoiler, between the taillights?

you know what a 911 would have that and NOT say . . . any front engined car, right?

Hey, yeah the vent under the spoiler is correct, it would look good on the 370Z, and I heard it helps increase down force. Its part of the reason why the GT3 RS is so fast around a track.

Spartan 1771 11-09-2018 07:43 AM

The Porsche GT3's engine is in the rear of the car. Here's why it has those vents:

https://www.total911.com/wp-content/...engine-bay.jpg

God-Speed 11-09-2018 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyDays (Post 3797765)
Hey, yeah the vent under the spoiler is correct, it would look good on the 370Z, and I heard it helps increase down force. Its part of the reason why the GT3 RS is so fast around a track.

Like others have said "this is due to a rear engine." As far as adding down force, I would start getting my info from some one else who know what they are talking about!!

Spartan 1771 11-09-2018 08:12 AM

If down force is what you want, check this mod out:

http://www.westviewbungalow.com/wp-c...cks-in-car.jpg

madwi 11-09-2018 08:33 AM

Hey whats goi... :wtf2:

SunnyDays 11-09-2018 09:18 AM

So does this mean I can not have the rear vents because it needs an engine or? Can it not just go over the glass, surely it would help with traction due to more weight over the rear wheels?

NorthStyle 11-09-2018 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyDays (Post 3797765)
Hey, yeah the vent under the spoiler is correct, it would look good on the 370Z, and I heard it helps increase down force. Its part of the reason why the GT3 RS is so fast around a track.

The RS is a street legal track car. It was purpose built to go fast around a track...

So yes, while the rear bumper vents/ducts do aid in engine cooling, they do aid in down force by cutting down on the "parachute" effect (I don't know the proper term) of the rear bunper. However, you also need to realize the undercarriage, wing, front fender vents,etc. all play a role. Doing only one will upset the characteristics of how the vehicle handles at speed.

I had contacted Verus (formerly Velox) about producing undercarriage panels for the Z similar to the ones the make for the 86s, WRX/STI and Miatas. But due to the piss poor reception of the diffuser they produced for us, they won't be making anymore parts for the Z34.

God-Speed 11-09-2018 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SunnyDays (Post 3797825)
So does this mean I can not have the rear vents because it needs an engine or? Can it not just go over the glass, surely it would help with traction due to more weight over the rear wheels?

:facepalm:

SunnyDays 11-09-2018 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorthStyle (Post 3797826)
The RS is a street legal track car. It was purpose built to go fast around a track...

So yes, while the rear bumper vents/ducts do aid in engine cooling, they do aid in down force by cutting down on the "parachute" effect (I don't know the proper term) of the rear bunper. However, you also need to realize the undercarriage, wing, front fender vents,etc. all play a role. Doing only one will upset the characteristics of how the vehicle handles at speed.

I had contacted Verus (formerly Velox) about producing undercarriage panels for the Z similar to the ones the make for the 86s, WRX/STI and Miatas. But due to the piss poor reception of the diffuser they produced for us, they won't be making anymore parts for the Z34.

Hey dude, thanks for the info!

So if I was to also get some custom style GT3 RS undercarriage panels produced, I could then have this rear panel over the glass as well to reduce the parachute effect.

Chuck33079 11-09-2018 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyDays (Post 3797834)
Hey dude, thanks for the info!

So if I was to also get some custom style GT3 RS undercarriage panels produced, I could then have this rear panel over the glass as well to reduce the parachute effect.

OK, so maybe I'm picturing what you want wrong since the area behind the glass on a Z opens into the cargo area. Are you thinking you'll put a vent there and then run some kind of duct through the cargo area to the undercarriage in some kind of attempt to gain rear downforce? Did I follow that right? Please tell me I'm not reading you right because it almost seems like you've never opened the hatch and looked around, or looked under the car at all the mechanical bits to see why this would not work.

cv129 11-09-2018 10:35 AM

:ugh2:
There’s a perfect meme for this somewhere

SunnyDays 11-09-2018 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3797836)
OK, so maybe I'm picturing what you want wrong since the area behind the glass on a Z opens into the cargo area. Are you thinking you'll put a vent there and then run some kind of duct through the cargo area to the undercarriage in some kind of attempt to gain rear downforce? Did I follow that right? Please tell me I'm not reading you right because it almost seems like you've never opened the hatch and looked around, or looked under the car at all the mechanical bits to see why this would not work.

Hey, I am referring to the vents that sit just below the rear glass that contains the brake light.

https://car-images.bauersecure.com/p...11gt3rs_03.jpg

Chuck33079 11-09-2018 10:45 AM

Ok, so I'm not picturing it wrong. :facepalm:

SunnyDays 11-09-2018 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3797842)
Ok, so I'm not picturing it wrong. :facepalm:

I was not going to run anything to the ducts through the cargo area, I was just going to bolt it on over the top of the glass, this would still help down force right?

Chuck33079 11-09-2018 10:47 AM

How would a vent to nowhere help anything at all? The vent is not what provides downforce, the air moving thorough it is.

SunnyDays 11-09-2018 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3797846)
How would a vent to nowhere help anything at all? The vent is not what provides downforce, the air moving thorough it is.

Through aerodynamics / the shaping of it.

Chuck33079 11-09-2018 11:17 AM

I think you're confusing drag for downforce. The short answer, to save you time, is that your idea will not work, and you should spend your time thinking about other things.

SunnyDays 11-09-2018 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3797853)
I think you're confusing drag for downforce. The short answer, to save you time, is that your idea will not work, and you should spend your time thinking about other things.

Thanks for the info! So if I want this to work really I should apply the front and rear GT3 RS bumpers, and somehow route airflow through the cargo area right?

Chuck33079 11-09-2018 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyDays (Post 3797855)
Thanks for the info! So if I want this to work really I should apply the front and rear GT3 RS bumpers, and somehow route airflow through the cargo area right?



No. You should stop wasting time thinking about any of what you’ve talked about. If you want downforce, buy a wing and front splitter.


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OptionZero 11-09-2018 11:54 AM

or just . . .

buy a Porsche?


because this is alot of pipedreaming about **** you don't understand

this is probably a waste of time

but

I really, REALLY doubt you're doing the kind of driving (i.e. on a TRACK) where this sort of aerodynamic **** is gonna make a lick of difference

and before even getting that far, there are MANY, MANY things that affect the car WAY more than a fuckin' vent in the back stolen from a totally different (race engineered) car.

#1 would be the driver - you - who appears clueless. So improving that would be a big help

#2 and everything is . . . the engine, the suspension, brakes, tires, hell, safety tech, if you're even doing that sorta thing

but back to everyone's point

it sounds like you should STOP ASKING THESE STUPID ******* QUESTIONS and read and learn about how cars work

maybe go to a track day and ride with an instructor , other experienced drivers. rent a spec miata.

Smashley 11-09-2018 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyDays (Post 3797855)
Thanks for the info! So if I want this to work really I should apply the front and rear GT3 RS bumpers, and somehow route airflow through the cargo area right?

http://i68.tinypic.com/m93akg.jpg

Spartan 1771 11-09-2018 12:03 PM

This entire thread

https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-conte...eaking_bad.gif

ColtronZ 11-09-2018 12:06 PM

Can we pin this?

:drama:

sx moneypit 11-09-2018 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan 1771 (Post 3797803)
If down force is what you want, check this mod out:

http://www.westviewbungalow.com/wp-c...cks-in-car.jpg

:icon18:

Rusty 11-09-2018 01:17 PM

Sunny, do you do any track days or drive on the Autobahn? That's the only two places that aero pays off. Think I know what you want to do. But it would take a whole redesign of the Z. Those vents you see on the GT are for the oil coolers. It's where the air comes out of. They don't provide any down force. If they did. It would be very little.

SunnyDays 11-09-2018 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3797889)
Sunny, do you do any track days or drive on the Autobahn? That's the only two places that aero pays off. Think I know what you want to do. But it would take a whole redesign of the Z. Those vents you see on the GT are for the oil coolers. It's where the air comes out of. They don't provide any down force. If they did. It would be very little.

Hey, a lot of it is just down to aesthetics, when it drives by and you see vents coming out of the back it just looks cool. I do not attend regular track days or even the auto bahn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3797860)
or just . . .
buy a Porsche?

because this is alot of pipedreaming about **** you don't understand

this is probably a waste of time

but

I really, REALLY doubt you're doing the kind of driving (i.e. on a TRACK) where this sort of aerodynamic **** is gonna make a lick of difference

and before even getting that far, there are MANY, MANY things that affect the car WAY more than a fuckin' vent in the back stolen from a totally different (race engineered) car.

#1 would be the driver - you - who appears clueless. So improving that would be a big help

#2 and everything is . . . the engine, the suspension, brakes, tires, hell, safety tech, if you're even doing that sorta thing

but back to everyone's point

it sounds like you should STOP ASKING THESE STUPID ******* QUESTIONS and read and learn about how cars work

maybe go to a track day and ride with an instructor , other experienced drivers. rent a spec miata.

So if I am understanding correctly you are saying I should also potentially take the suspension, brakes and alloys from the 911 GT3 RS? I am not sure how feasible that is but if it makes the mods better all round then im all for it.

I do not do track days, I just like the way it looks, and really it should be enough in that it looks cool and gives me a couple extra HP / acceleration speed from the aero of that piece on the back.

Spartan 1771 11-09-2018 02:05 PM

This can't be for real.

NorthStyle 11-09-2018 02:06 PM

No, he was saying that those parts affect the car. I seriously doubt any of those parts would crossover to anything other than another Porsche.

...and all my comments before were for the rear bumper vents. The vent for the engine.... what everyone else said.

Chuck33079 11-09-2018 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyDays (Post 3797910)
Hey, a lot of it is just down to aesthetics, when it drives by and you see vents coming out of the back it just looks cool. I do not attend regular track days or even the auto bahn.







So if I am understanding correctly you are saying I should also potentially take the suspension, brakes and alloys from the 911 GT3 RS? I am not sure how feasible that is but if it makes the mods better all round then im all for it.



I do not do track days, I just like the way it looks, and really it should be enough in that it looks cool and gives me a couple extra HP / acceleration speed from the aero of that piece on the back.



Dude, stop. There’s no way you’re actually this stupid.


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Spartan 1771 11-09-2018 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3797919)
Dude, stop. There’s no way you’re actually this stupid.


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Actually, the 370Z Facebook thread is full of insanity like this.

Chuck33079 11-09-2018 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan 1771 (Post 3797921)
Actually, the 370Z Facebook thread is full of insanity like this.



I know. It needs to stay there.


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Rusty 11-09-2018 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan 1771 (Post 3797921)
Actually, the 370Z Facebook thread is full of insanity like this.

That's one of the reasons I'm not on farcebook.

Rusty 11-09-2018 02:16 PM

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I got to post my cat. :tup:

Spartan 1771 11-09-2018 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3797924)
That's one of the reasons I'm not on farcebook.

You're so much better off. It literally hurts my head at times. I try to help, but it's no use. I rarely log in these days.

"Farcebook"
:icon18:
Good one!


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