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abakja1 10-29-2009 01:45 AM

370z needs better side mirrors
 
I have a Subaru Legacy GT and bought Prova Blue side mirrors,..
Probably the best "overpriced" item I bought > $150...but they are trick and I got no blind spots at all..

The 370z needs something like this or smaller side mirrors that are electric...they are too large and there is still a bad blind spot..

http://i37.tinypic.com/281ftdl.jpg

JoeD 10-29-2009 01:55 AM

I'm waiting for Craft Square to release mirrors for this car.

kenchan 10-29-2009 09:45 AM

me too.

Gaiiden 10-29-2009 08:31 PM

it looks like the 2010 has smaller mirrors more like the 350, I'll wait to snatch a pair of those if that turns out to be the case

Goolsbymd 10-29-2009 08:38 PM

hmm I don't have a picture or a link but what about those small little circular mirrors with 3M tape on the back side and have someone walking around the car and find the blind spot and drop the small mirror there.

Modshack 10-29-2009 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaiiden (Post 258437)
it looks like the 2010 has smaller mirrors more like the 350, I'll wait to snatch a pair of those if that turns out to be the case


Huh???? Why would they do that.....

Looks identical to the '09 to me....

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...nniversary.jpg

Mike 10-29-2009 10:08 PM

you just need to learn how to adjust them. Tilt your head to the far left, then put the mirror where you can barely see the left side of the car. Then tilt right and do the same for the other side. In normal driving, you shouldn't be able to see your car from the side mirrors. It does take getting used to, but you will find, if you let a car pass you on either side, it will go from the rear view mirror, to the side to where you can see it directly and never be out of your sight.

theDreamer 10-29-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 258611)
you just need to learn how to adjust them. Tilt your head to the far left, then put the mirror where you can barely see the left side of the car. Then tilt right and do the same for the other side. In normal driving, you shouldn't be able to see your car from the side mirrors. It does take getting used to, but you will find, if you let a car pass you on either side, it will go from the rear view mirror, to the side to where you can see it directly and never be out of your sight.

:iagree:
Took me well over a week to get mine just right, but no more blind spots. I would like to upgrade to the 2010 mirrors only for the heated mirrors, but I will wait to find out exactly what it will take to do it.

schrute 10-29-2009 10:15 PM

:iagree:

When I first got this car I felt like it had bilnd spots bad, but after adjusting the mirrors further out like Mike descibed above I have no problem feeling like I don't know what's going on around me.

WShade 10-29-2009 10:19 PM

:iagree: x3

Matt 10-29-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by schrute (Post 258624)
:iagree:

When I first got this car I felt like it had bilnd spots bad, but after adjusting the mirrors further out like Mike descibed above I have no problem feeling like I don't know what's going on around me.

:iagree: x4

The mirrors are great for me. After only a week, I feel 100% sure when changing lanes, backing up, etc....and that's with the nismo spoiler in the way! Back-up cam will be more of a show-off thing, than a utility thing.

antennahead 10-29-2009 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 258611)
you just need to learn how to adjust them. Tilt your head to the far left, then put the mirror where you can barely see the left side of the car. Then tilt right and do the same for the other side. In normal driving, you shouldn't be able to see your car from the side mirrors. It does take getting used to, but you will find, if you let a car pass you on either side, it will go from the rear view mirror, to the side to where you can see it directly and never be out of your sight.


:iagree: 100% correct my friend!

kannibul 10-30-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 258611)
you just need to learn how to adjust them. Tilt your head to the far left, then put the mirror where you can barely see the left side of the car. Then tilt right and do the same for the other side. In normal driving, you shouldn't be able to see your car from the side mirrors. It does take getting used to, but you will find, if you let a car pass you on either side, it will go from the rear view mirror, to the side to where you can see it directly and never be out of your sight.

I've got mine set out as far as they will go before the motor "clicks" - and I still have a bit of blind spot...

This is fixed by doing a crunches while looking out the driver's side mirror then looking over my shoulder too to double-check. The more I drive my car, the more crunches I do, therefore I won't be 300lbs for long, right? (lol)

As a biker, I pay close attention to blind-spots. Sadly, other bikers don't.

kenchan 10-30-2009 01:18 PM

im talking about the blind spot on the other side of the a-pillar.

i cant see very well while making my left hand turns cause i can't see OVER the side mirror like i can on my other cars.

i noticed my G's sidemirrors are so much narrower.

370Zsteve 10-30-2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 259286)
im talking about the blind spot on the other side of the a-pillar.

i cant see very well while making my left hand turns cause i can't see OVER the side mirror like i can on my other cars.

i noticed my G's sidemirrors are so much narrower.

Kenchan, I think you are the first to ever complain about a blind spot caused by the A pillar! I'm curious, how tall are you? Also do you drive with the seat all the way back (Italian style) or are your legs shorter than, say, a 30 inseam so that you put the seat very far forward?

Matt 10-30-2009 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 259315)
Kenchan, I think you are the first to ever complain about a blind spot caused by the A pillar! I'm curious, how tall are you? Also do you drive with the seat all the way back (Italian style) or are your legs shorter than, say, a 30 inseam so that you put the seat very far forward?

My GF is 5'6 and has to move the seat BACK from my position to just sit in my car comfortably (not drive it though!!!). I'm 5'8, but < 30 in. inseam and have no problems with the mirrors or A-pillar.

kenchan 10-30-2009 07:25 PM

Not the a-pillar itself, I'm talking about the mirror blocking the view on the other side of the mirror on the a-pillar side, not the quarter panel side (the usual blind spot).

kenchan 10-31-2009 08:28 AM

I just re-read this post. Are you guys telling me I got short legs?! :mad: How dare you! :D

My legs are fine. The mirror's just big.

370Zsteve 10-31-2009 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 260453)
I just re-read this post. Are you guys telling me I got short legs?! :mad: How dare you! :D

My legs are fine. The mirror's just big.

:icon17:

Daishi 10-31-2009 03:25 PM

yes i have the same issue to where im making certain left hand turns where i cant see over the side mirror.. the bottom of my seat is pretty much all the way up i do lean back a little but not too much the car just has a tall mirror lol. im 5'7

Moonlitebiker 10-31-2009 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 259116)
As a biker, I pay close attention to blind-spots. Sadly, other bikers don't.

I'm going to have to take issue with that comment. It isn't bikers who don't pay attention to blind spots. It's the car & truck drivers who do this. Bikers pay the price.

Zsteve 10-31-2009 04:21 PM

I guess Im old school trained (Drivers ed in school) and was taught to turn my head and look when making turns but alot of drivers today only rely on the mirrors, if even that when turning or changing lanes.

And Kenchan dont worry, its not the size (or length) of you legs, just how you use them.

kenchan 10-31-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 261172)
And Kenchan dont worry, its not the size (or length) of you legs, just how you use them.

:icon14: so im suppose to karate kick my side mirror off the car while turning left. ok, nice suggestion. :icon17:

you know wat, the salesguy was making jokes that he was going to include a special hacksaw if i bought the car. :p ...but he never delivered that part of the deal...

earwicker7 10-31-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 258611)
you just need to learn how to adjust them. Tilt your head to the far left, then put the mirror where you can barely see the left side of the car. Then tilt right and do the same for the other side. In normal driving, you shouldn't be able to see your car from the side mirrors. It does take getting used to, but you will find, if you let a car pass you on either side, it will go from the rear view mirror, to the side to where you can see it directly and never be out of your sight.

Bingo! I was freaked out when I first got the Z, thinking that I would probably only be able to go for a week without being hit by someone. These tips (as well as general situational awareness... know who is behind you at all times) will cure 99% of the problem. There is still a TINY blind area, but it's so small that a good driver (see situational awareness) won't have any problems.

earwicker7 10-31-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 261172)
I guess Im old school trained (Drivers ed in school) and was taught to turn my head and look when making turns but alot of drivers today only rely on the mirrors, if even that when turning or changing lanes.

Agreed... even though changing the mirrors as described in a previous post helps A LOT, a quick look over your shoulder is a must. There is always going to be some idiot who rockets across three lanes to try to catch the exit he forgot about who will not show up in the mirrors (true story... I'd have crashed if I'd only relied on the mirrors).

m4a1mustang 10-31-2009 09:44 PM

Mirrors are a non issue... ****. I installed the little circle mirrors to help and like others have said, I was taught to turn and look over my shoulder before changing lanes.

If you are complaining about visibility out of the right side... if you don't have a passenger, lean the seat back and you can see out the quarter window just fine.

schrute 10-31-2009 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonlitebiker (Post 261118)
I'm going to have to take issue with that comment. It isn't bikers who don't pay attention to blind spots. It's the car & truck drivers who do this. Bikers pay the price.

Agree 100% that it's bikers that pay the price when there is a failure to pay attention to blind spots, but it goes both ways. The way I read his comment was that it's up to the biker to stay out of other vehicles blind spots, for their own good. When I'm on the bike I do not camp out in other vehicle's blind spots because I do not trust them to check it before changing lanes. I either accelerate to get in front of them or stay behind them. It wouldn't matter to me who wasn't paying attention to their blind spot if I was dead.

abakja1 11-01-2009 01:25 AM

I think that with the Prova Blue mirrors, and I found some blue mirrors for my E55 Mercedes Benz too on Ebay, that you can get a wide view, as well as not have any light glare, as well as be able to see the lower part of your car as needed when you are reversing out of a stall/tight spot etc....

WShade 11-01-2009 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by abakja1 (Post 261740)
I think that with the Prova Blue mirrors, and I found some blue mirrors for my E55 Mercedes Benz too on Ebay, that you can get a wide view, as well as not have any light glare, as well as be able to see the lower part of your car as needed when you are reversing out of a stall/tight spot etc....

They are not available for the Z. Are they :confused:

j.arnaldo 11-01-2009 10:09 AM

Doesn't that make you wonder what were their engineers thinking when they designed them?? There's always room for improvement, but it appears those engineers can't hit the target straight.

Trips 11-01-2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 258620)
:iagree:
Took me well over a week to get mine just right, but no more blind spots. I would like to upgrade to the 2010 mirrors only for the heated mirrors, but I will wait to find out exactly what it will take to do it.

Same here Dreamer, Simple adjustments and the blind spots are taken care of. I keep my car parked outside and the morning dew frosts all the windows and side mirrors, I have to keep cleaning my side mirrors before I drive off to see backing out onto the street. Heated Mirrors would be nice option. :tup:

Jack370Z 11-02-2009 08:19 PM

I've found there appears to be blind areas on both sides due to the A pillars but with use the side mirrors do cover those areas. With approaching vehicles I adjust the side mirrors "out" until I can see the front of them as they clear the cockpit rearview mirror. The vehicles should just come into view in the side mirrors just as they begin to leave the rearview. I still find a quick glance over either shoulder is advisable for peace of mind. I do agree the driver's side mirror is a little large and does block your view, somewhat, when making left turns. Not sure of a fix for that. The rear visibility is limited in the 370Z. It reminds me of the Pontiac Trans Am Formula.

desertzrat 11-02-2009 09:09 PM

my first race instructor told me move the mirrors out, you can look at the side of your car anytime you want to, just get out and walk around, move em out

EVOR 11-03-2009 02:00 AM

Advance JDM have install a JDM aero mirror on their 370Z. Looks alot better than stock. I'll post pics laster

kannibul 11-03-2009 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonlitebiker (Post 261118)
I'm going to have to take issue with that comment. It isn't bikers who don't pay attention to blind spots. It's the car & truck drivers who do this. Bikers pay the price.

It's a mutual thing, seriously. If you hang out in the blindspot of a vehicle, and they merge on top of you, well, that's on you, as far as I'm concerned...and that's how *I* ride.

earwicker7 11-03-2009 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 264177)
It's a mutual thing, seriously. If you hang out in the blindspot of a vehicle, and they merge on top of you, well, that's on you, as far as I'm concerned...and that's how *I* ride.

I agree. It's really bad here in Los Angeles since you can legally (correct me if I get the term wrong) whiteline (i.e., squeeze between two cars that are next to each other). Where I grew up that wasn't legal because, well, it's insane. I've seen bikers literally have about 1" between themselves and the car next to them.

kannibul 11-03-2009 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by earwicker7 (Post 264412)
I agree. It's really bad here in Los Angeles since you can legally (correct me if I get the term wrong) whiteline (i.e., squeeze between two cars that are next to each other). Where I grew up that wasn't legal because, well, it's insane. I've seen bikers literally have about 1" between themselves and the car next to them.

Lanesplitting, and I agree, it's stupid. It should have been outlawed once car phones were invented, let alone cell phones.

junior_jam 11-03-2009 07:19 PM

I agree that adjusting the mirrors properly will allow you to see a car approach from behind at which point you can watch them in your side mirror, but they DO NOT help in the case of (1) heavy traffic where you're not watching cars approach or (2) you're not watching every car behind you.

For example, tonight I was in congested traffic traveling at the speed limit and I got aggressive because the guy in front of me was going slow and I saw an opening to the right. I checked my mirrors and (tried to) look out the right window and took off to the right. Nobody was there. The second I started to change lanes I saw a gigantic pickup truck that was in my blind spot. I ended up cutting him off.

I'm seriously thinking about getting those stupid half round mirrors for the sake of not wrecking my Z.

kenchan 11-03-2009 08:56 PM

or you can just slow down... free :D

EVOR 11-03-2009 11:34 PM

http://www.evo-r.net/SEMA09/370Z/SEMA2009 063.jpg


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