New Product Release
 

Please Note:


2/23/18 WE HAVE A CONFIRMED 7WHP AND 6FT-LB TORQUE BY JON PARHAM AT Z1 MOTORSPORTS


Our Latest Product!



The Dewla Dezign 370Z AIR-GUIDE for:



Stillen / Z1/ AAM Long Tube Intake Systems



Dewla Dezign had become aware of an existing issue after discovering two consecutive articles revealing the same problem with the long tube intake kits. One was by Team NISMO, the other was by well known "Sport Compact Car" Editor and Chief; Mike Kojima. After Sport Compact closed, Kojima started a completely non biased online magazine: "MotoIQ". If you are not familiar with the write-ups of MotoIQ, they specialize in very detailed aspects of projects and builds, as well as, general performance part reviews.



Both teams found that while the long tube intake kits made great power with the front fascia off of the car. As soon as they reinstalled the fascia, they went from making as much as (17-23 WHP)(Nismo report) (15 WHP) (MotoIQ report) all the way down to as little as (1-3 WHP) (Nismo) and (9 whp) That's a big problem! Especially when you are paying upwards 500.00USD for an intake kit.



In the article, Mike calls out Stillen to make an air guide to support their product. That air guide never came,



So we decided to step up and design one for the Z community.



We introduce to you:



The Dewla Dezign 370Z AIR-GUIDE KIT:



• Simplistic Bolt on Design
• Ultra Durable Textured Matte Black Powder Coat Finish
• All Necessary Hardware and Step by Step Instructions
• Provides Gains on low-mid end Torque and HP
• Made of High Grade Lightweight Aluminum
• Works with Aftermarket Oil Coolers
• Standard 3 Year Warranty
• Low Profile Design
• No Cutting Holes in your Fascia

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/f...6e7ebf~mv2.pngStandard 3 Year Warranty

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Product will be ready for shipment this Friday- 02/09/18

You can order these at the link below.

https://www.dewladezign.com/product-...370z-air-guide

Where is it located on the second picture of the stillen showing?

it's behind air filters.

So I need 2 of these for $215 each? Goodness

I hope you guys have a patent I can easily fabricate one.

Has anyone ever been dynoed with the bumper off? I've seen countless dynos showing manufacturer claimed whp increases with the bumper on. I've been to plenty of dyno days and not once has the bumper come off - and people were still making more power than stock.

Is it just me, or does this smell like inventing a problem in order to sell a solution? This company only makes shift knobs for the Z34, and suddenly they're an authority on how to make power? Hell, they didn't even include a link to this article they claim justifies the need for this product.

Yeah something doesn't seem right about this

I mean, this will absolutely do something to feed air to the filters. I'm just very skeptical on all of their wild-*** claims of power losses without it. Even on their website you can't find a link to any of their proof of any of their claims.

Also, aren't you blocking air flow to the radiator?

For some reason it won't let me paste the link here. I did find the motoiq article comparing bumper on and off dump runs with The whp figures mentioned

Yeah, i tracked it down with what you posted. Still, there's hundreds of dynos on this site alone showing power gains in line with what the manufacturer quoted, and I haven't heard that people are taking their bumpers off for the dyno.

Its must be designed by NASA or McLaren to cost that much!

More cost more power? That must be the business model.

Yeah, those kinds of people are out there.

I am assuming you have two 370's ?

1 per car.

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Here is one. I never could locate the Nismo one again. I spent a few hours looking at one point several months back. Their numbers were even more dramatic.

Lets not go off the deep end here guys.

Give the vendor a chance :ugh2:

I personally like the idea now will it make a BIG difference probably not. imo

Installing an air deflector to divert air specifically to the intakes should be of some benefit as others have done this like BMW for instance.

Sooo lets not totally shoot the idea out of the water as not having any benefit.




Oh and Welcome Joe@DewlaDez :hello:

It would be nice to see some results honestly. I'm not against the product. Pricing seems a bit optimistic, but it's something new.

That's fine, but people should really show their work before they start throwing around claims like they did.

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There is the link.

I understand your concern, but we have been making parts for Z's for the last decade that you don't even know about. They just don't have our name on them.

Also, I typically go by the general rule I was taught at a very young age.

" The faster you get the air in and out = The more power you make. "

I also have a very lengthy background in fabrication/engineering personally.

Not exactly the warm welcome I was hoping for from my Z community.

I understand skepticism, but this is bit far.

There are several of these parts going out to the following dealers for 3rd party dyno results.

Specialty Z
Z1 Motorsports
Concept Z Performance
Houston Z
and MotoIQ

All these companies offered right away to fit and test this part. Some agreeing that there is a known issue.

It is just the prototype behind on this one. There is no powder coat lol. Sorry for the confusion.

I will have better pics up for everyone tonight.

So if the dyno showed a gain of 15 whp when the intake was originally installed with my front fascia on, based on the math it sounds like you claiming this product will provide an additional 14-22 whp. Is that the case?

It's entirely possible that you're right. I'll happily admit it if that's the case. I'm just confused since no one dynos their car with the bumper off and many people here have dyno charts showing gains in line with what the intake manufacturers expect. Then you make a post with some claims to the contrary, and do not provide any backup except an article from 2009 - and we had to drag that out of you. You should have led with your supporting information and some real world proof. You did neither. I'll profusely apologize once we see that you're selling a good product, not just more of the snake oil bs that cars get right around the time that they've reached the end of the line.

I'm sorry you feel personally attacked by me asking for more proof than you initially provided. Tell you what - no bs - post up some 3rd party same day before and after dyno sheets showing these gains, and I'll buy you a six pack in apology (I'd say I'd buy one, but my intakes aren't even in the same zip code as stock). I hope you are bringing a good product to market, there's just a lot of vendors these days who like to throw around bold claims with limited proof and many of us here are skeptical.

I am not claiming those numbers or any numbers particularly. All I am claiming is that I made a device that literally shovels air into your filters. When we A/B test this part, we could physically tell a huge difference. Mainly on low-mid torque in comparison to it being off of the car.

In my own theory of a product like this, it would be really hard to get a solid consistent number out of it, as it is heavily dependent on vehicle speed. On a Dyno, that will be a bit tough to replicate.

If you are skeptical, I understand.

Wait for the dyno results and people to get them on their cars and report back.

As far as price goes. We felt that it was pretty reasonable considering all these expenses have to be accounted for.

Material
Laser CNC Cut
CNC bent
Powder Coat
Custom Boxes
Packing material
Custom machined bracket and hardware
R&D for several months on and off.

If you really think about it, there is a bit more to a product than most consider.

It was just how you addressed it.. I totally agree that we need some more solid evidence as it is always preferable and good for all.

I did write this post at like 2:30 am! There is a good chance I jumped the gun on presenting this to you guys lol.

All I ever claimed is that this thing is getting way more air to the long tube intakes, and from what we have experienced in testing. More low-mid end torque.

Im not saying your product is farce too. But honestly people here have sold there Z and left this forum.

Too late in game? Maybe or maybe not.

I dont know how many people here are into numbers game. Or bragging rights.

I only have one Z for 6 years now and my other car is a C7 Z51. I agree with the principle as the C7 alone have lots if deflectors for increased air flow and cooling.

Will I buy one for my Z? Maybe yes and no.
For the last 2 weeks in the for sale thread at least 4 people selling the Gen 3 Stillen intakes and having hard time selling.

When 6 years ago they are selling like hot cakes even for a price of $500.
A 8 to 9 year old car? Do I need to brag about it every time I attend a cars and coffee in my area that I have this deflectors? Nobody would care as people are more interested on the new design Mustang, Corvette etc.

I welcome the innovation but timing is everything in the business world. Do you intend to sell to many people who DD the Z example people in California where the average speed is 5-6 miles On heavy traffic or your target market people who track there Z? I only know 5 or 6 in this forum now.

Its a free market I welcome and applaud the effort in making the Stillen work better. Maybe same reason why Stillen didnt bother to make one to sell because the market is small now.

Im speaking of the business side of things.

There is tons of room for airflow to the oil cooler and radiator. The angle of the picture is a bit deceiving. You'll have no issues with cooling with this product. I will get some better photos up tonight.

The front of my car is like this right now. Just curious if it's beneficial without the oem crash bar since it's wide open now.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcOkkMJH...n-by=nerdeddie

It looks to me that you are getting plenty of air to those filters!

I wouldn't be concerned.

Let's just sit back for those dyno results before we make extreme decisions. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy anything.. :drama:

I'm sure they they didn't mean it directly to you personally just more so skeptical of the product itself ;)

I myself would of liked to see some dyno numbers also. I'll be watching the thread tho thats for sure!

Thanks, TRIPS!!!

5 letters here, just for everybody out there in the 370Z forum: R-E-L-A-X
 

I agree, let's give Joe a chance to get the independent dyno results from the shops he listed (Specialty Z, Z1 Motorsports, Concept Z Performance, Houston Z, and MotoIQ) before we jump to any conclusions. I also don't think he's trying to call out current CAI manufactures and their claimed numbers or anything like that. I think he's just trying to let everybody know what he's working on.

Innovation is always welcome in book, especially on the N/A side of things. Sub'd for future dyno results.

First Dyno results are in as of 2/22/18.

The Dewla Dezign AIR-GUIDE made a surprising 7whp and 6ft-lb of torque

yesterday at Z1 MOTORSPORTS.

Same day A/B testing. We will know more details shortly.

In the meantime, someone owes me a 6 pack... ; )

Dude, I'm good for the six pack, but you're going to have to at the very least post the dyno sheet. ;)

Working on it boys.. Patiently waiting.. :postwhore:

My setup is pretty much the same except I have the Admin Tuning intakes. I'm considering getting the guide since, regardless if the OEM crash bar is present or not, the front bumper is still blocking air flow to the intake filters due to their location.

Might help, might not.

Has anyone tried any testing yet since these have came out?.

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I doubt it but i'm also interested. I've been watching the thread and hoping for some updates but nothing as of yet

I have one but Ohio weather hasn't exactly allowed me to get the Z out quite yet.

Regardless, it'll be on my Z for ZDayZ so I will be putting it to the test soon. I'll try and make sure I post a review on it once I've had a decent amount of time behind the wheel with it installed.

All apologies guys.. We have been working on the 2nd variation of this product. It has just now been released at Z1 Motorsports and ZSpeed Performance.

If you are looking for fine details on dyno results, contact Z1 Motorsports for detailed information.

We should have all the test results back from the other 3rd party vendors within the next month.

They are starting to get out there and fitted up on vehicles now, so you should be seeing some unbiased feedback shortly.

From what I have heard and seen so far. It sounds like we have developed a pretty decent part for the Z community.

If you have any questions, feel free to call or email anytime.

Thanks guys!

not trying to start anything, but been following this thread since it started.
Dyno still did not get posted, as you stated you working on it.
Now V2 is being work on, what is the change?

Z1 has never supplied me with the Dyno sheets. They said they were considering to make a YouTube video on the part with a full analysis. That is why I have not been pushing to get it from them.

Which is why I said, if you want more specific information, to call them and ask for it until the other dealers start posting their findings.

The reason for the V2 is due to fitment issues with the tow hook on the 09-11 models. All 3 cars we had for prototyping parts were 2012+ cars. I checked Nissan to make sure they had no secondary part numbers for the crash bars while in development. They did not have different part numbers, but the crash bars did in fact change. On the early models they have the "half moon" shaped tow hook, where as the later models just have the rectangular billet design. (We made corrections for these issues)

We also added a horn relocation kit to accommodate different long tube intake kits/filters.

Made adjustments to fit the Setrab 34 oil coolers W/ aftermarket radiators.


CZP, DYNOSTY and Specialty Z received the V2 this week. CZP could not test the the first one we had sent them due to clearance issues with other aftermarket parts (that we have now addressed).

I wanted to get you guys true unbiased 3rd party results and we are working as fast as we can to get them to you. You have to remember that some of this is out of my hands. These 3rd party vendors also have businesses to run and they are not just going to drop everything because I sent them a part to test.

I should have more info over the next few weeks. You will start seeing the dealers post up their findings as well.

I appreciate your patience as we work out the bugs.

We have been focused on making sure these install with ease and fit properly on your vehicles.

If you want more information in general call me anytime. For the time being if you want dyno information, call Z1 MOTORSPORTS.

Thanks!

UPDATE: Z1 MOTORSPORTS will be posting a review with dyno sheets on this forum on Monday. SO BE ON THE LOOKOUT!