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bullitt5897 02-15-2015 10:35 AM

He also had a custom intake manifold

synolimit 02-15-2015 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3112456)
1slow370z did it. shoot him a pm, but he also had a custom manifold created to fit the TB's

So I'm right. So spend less on two throttle bodies but spent $3000 on a custom manifold.

Elmo370z 02-15-2015 10:59 AM

He wanted to be different. Noone else offers better than his one off. I would do if i had the bank roll to spend countless amounts of money. His car did make more power than any N/A Z in the world and a set-up that noone has dared to try and he succeeded.

synolimit 02-15-2015 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3112478)
He wanted to be different. Noone else offers better than his one off. I would do if i had the bank roll to spend countless amounts of money. His car did make more power than any N/A Z in the world and a set-up that noone has dared to try and he succeeded.

Yeah but look at the amount spent vs what was achieved. If I'm not mistaken is was 371hp but using STD and possibly 5th gear. 4th and SAE were talking around 350hp. I'm not sure I'm down to do into the teens $$,$$$ for 20-30hp. Poly windows and drive train weigh could do the same performance wise.

Chuck33079 02-15-2015 12:06 PM

Not to mention more than a few of those hp came from switching to a dry sump. That alone will rape your wallet.

synolimit 02-15-2015 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3112509)
Not to mention more than a few of those hp came from switching to a dry sump. That alone will rape your wallet.

Because of the increased rpm or am I missing something?

Chuck33079 02-15-2015 12:45 PM

That and you're not dragging the crank through the oil.

Elmo370z 02-15-2015 07:27 PM

Yea but he stated the cam doesn't really start producing until after 8,000 rpms. Also he wasn't done with building the car up. Plus this is the first of it's kind. I'm sure if more companies follow his set-up they could fine tune for more horsepower. Member when the first TT KIT. Came out, you were lucky to break 500whp.

Elmo370z 02-15-2015 07:34 PM

Another note if he wanted 600 or 700 horsepower he definitely had the money for a TT KIT.

SlowZ 02-17-2015 02:32 AM

I'm totally aware of the cost needed to do something like I mentioned lol. I'm not trying to argue that. I need to have something done to my lower plenum and TB because I could benefit from having 3 inch charge pipes.

Elmo370z 02-18-2015 11:01 PM

He also had velocity stack in the 3 inch charge pipes, i wonder if that gave any benefit in the power band.

synolimit 02-19-2015 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3112527)
That and you're not dragging the crank through the oil.

Really think it's that much oil? When the motors off I know it's soaked obviously but while running I thought the pan was pretty empty. Empty enough the dip stick barley reads anything. Plus with a 5w oil while running that's pretty thin whatever does touch the crank.

DR_ 02-19-2015 10:08 AM

The oil level when off doesn't go high enough to touch the crank so when on it surely doesn't.

Chuck33079 02-19-2015 10:17 AM

To clarify, the crank is not submerged in the oil. There are losses due to oil splashing around into the rotating assembly.

One quick link - Technical Description - Dry Sump Systems

Rusty 02-19-2015 03:41 PM

The loss is called windage. You got oil whipping around with the crank as it is spinning. The oil puts a drag on the crank. When you eliminate the oil whipping. You pick up hp. Couple of ways you can do it. Use a deep sump oil pan, windage tray, deep sump oil pan with a windage tray, or a dry sump. Listed from the least to the most efficient.


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