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Elmo370z 12-27-2014 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3064963)
I have had long long long conversations with 1slow370... That dude knows his sh1t! I have also seen his car dyno'd and ridden in it.

Let me dispel one thing... Do not raise your compression! It will net you very LITTLE power and only hamper your ability to find gas outside of pumping your own barrel of 100+ octane.

Things you should do for an easy 450+ whp:
4.2l or 4.3l stroker with
Stock compression Pistons
Forged rods
Dry sump oiling system or a semi dry system if you want A/C
Built heads with JUN 282 cams
Replace the intake manifold (upper and lower) with one like 1slow370gygh
Run 3" throttle bodies from an 09+ maxima (talk to 1slow370) and a 3" cold intake
Run headers
3" exhaust or Tomei

Tune by Jon @ Z1

Bam 450+whp

This is the route I would go and may end up going with my new Nismo...

Jun cams are scary. Is the install that labor intensive

bullitt5897 12-27-2014 11:16 PM

It's not that scary if you have a competent shop. That has been the number one issue with this mod. Most that are installing the cams are not installing them properly and are not following the service manual instructions... 1slow370z installed his himself...

Elmo370z 12-28-2014 12:33 AM

My main question with these cams, will they be ok with the stock manifold.

SlowZ 12-28-2014 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3064963)
I have had long long long conversations with 1slow370... That dude knows his sh1t! I have also seen his car dyno'd and ridden in it.

Let me dispel one thing... Do not raise your compression! It will net you very LITTLE power and only hamper your ability to find gas outside of pumping your own barrel of 100+ octane.

Things you should do for an easy 450+ whp:
4.2l or 4.3l stroker with
Stock compression Pistons
Forged rods
Dry sump oiling system or a semi dry system if you want A/C
Built heads with JUN 282 cams
Replace the intake manifold (upper and lower) with one like 1slow370
Run 3" throttle bodies from an 09+ maxima (talk to 1slow370) and a 3" cold intake
Run headers

3" exhaust or Tomei

Tune by Jon @ Z1

Bam 450+whp

This is the route I would go and may end up going with my new Nismo...

Are the maxima TB really 3 inch? Are they a direct bolt on for the 370z?

Megan370z 12-28-2014 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SlowZ (Post 3066889)
Are the maxima TB really 3 inch? Are they a direct bolt on for the 370z?

Maxima 09+ TBs are 75mm.

not direct fit on the 370z, you need either an adaptor or a whole new intake manifold.
couple years ago I did that adaptor and you can see how much bigger the maxima 09 TB is.
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/...5d&oe=5547BFF4

the oem intake manifold inlet are about 63-64mm and could be bored a bit bigger but there isnt much meat around and its in plastic.

You will be require re-pin the driver plug for the TB.

SlowZ 12-28-2014 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megan370z (Post 3066970)
Maxima 09+ TBs are 75mm.

not direct fit on the 370z, you need either an adaptor or a whole new intake manifold.
couple years ago I did that adaptor and you can see how much bigger the maxima 09 TB is.
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/...5d&oe=5547BFF4

the oem intake manifold inlet are about 63-64mm and could be bored a bit bigger but there isnt much meat around and its in plastic.

You will be require re-pin the driver plug for the TB.

I wanted to bore out the stock ones but I think I read somewhere that most go is like 68mm but I could be wrong. But for the money someone could get two maxima TB. I already have the upper plenum ported. How much did you spend on the adaptors? And what do you mean by a re-pin? Thanks for the pictures and info

Megan370z 12-28-2014 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowZ (Post 3067110)
I wanted to bore out the stock ones but I think I read somewhere that most go is like 68mm but I could be wrong. But for the money someone could get two maxima TB. I already have the upper plenum ported. How much did you spend on the adaptors? And what do you mean by a re-pin? Thanks for the pictures and info

that 68mm is the outside mesurement pretty much on the intake manifold inlet.
I wouldnt go more than 65mm....
keep it mind, its plastic.

I spend 10$ on the 2 adapter that I machined at work and a couple hours.

The 370z as you know has 2 TB and they arent interchangeable.
the plug arent pinned the same from both side.

Like I said if I remember correctly its the driver side that need to be re-pinned like the passenger side.

that was my secret mod at the time just before I blew the VVEL and then well it was put on hold. Never tried the setup.

Elmo370z 12-28-2014 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megan370z (Post 3067301)
that 68mm is the outside mesurement pretty much on the intake manifold inlet.
I wouldnt go more than 65mm....
keep it mind, its plastic.

I spend 10$ on the 2 adapter that I machined at work and a couple hours.

The 370z as you know has 2 TB and they arent interchangeable.
the plug arent pinned the same from both side.

Like I said if I remember correctly its the driver side that need to be re-pinned like the passenger side.

that was my secret mod at the time just before I blew the VVEL and then well it was put on hold. Never tried the setup.

How did you blow the VVEL?

Zoren 370 12-28-2014 06:29 PM

Elmo have you checked the Z1Daytona TB? Been waiting for someone to make a review about it. Asked Z1 and the only answer was its top secret with an Lol at the end.

Elmo370z 12-28-2014 06:58 PM

Yes, its 62mm right? I want someone to make a intake manifold

Zoren 370 12-28-2014 07:22 PM

Synolimit does boring and polishing of intake manifold.

Not really sure of the size of the Z1 TB but it looks like they just made the butterfly bigger.

bullitt5897 12-28-2014 07:48 PM

The maxima throttle bodies will only be beneficial on a custom intake like the GTM built one for 1slow370.

SlowZ 12-28-2014 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megan370z (Post 3067301)
that 68mm is the outside mesurement pretty much on the intake manifold inlet.
I wouldnt go more than 65mm....
keep it mind, its plastic.

I spend 10$ on the 2 adapter that I machined at work and a couple hours.

The 370z as you know has 2 TB and they arent interchangeable.
the plug arent pinned the same from both side.

Like I said if I remember correctly its the driver side that need to be re-pinned like the passenger side.

that was my secret mod at the time just before I blew the VVEL and then well it was put on hold. Never tried the setup.

I think you mis read what I wrote. I wanted to bore out the stock throttle bodies. z1 ported my upper plenum. Sending out the stock throttle bodies to get ported costs just as much as just buying 2 stock maxima TB which are already a bigger diameter than the potentially ported 370s. I wanted to do porting of the TB or a bigger one if possible before I put on 3 inch charge pipes

SlowZ 12-28-2014 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3067389)
The maxima throttle bodies will only be beneficial on a custom intake like the GTM built one for 1slow370.

Didn't see this posted. Pretty much answered what I needed to know. Thanks

Megan370z 12-28-2014 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowZ (Post 3067390)
I think you mis read what I wrote. I wanted to bore out the stock throttle bodies. z1 ported my upper plenum. Sending out the stock throttle bodies to get ported costs just as much as just buying 2 stock maxima TB which are already a bigger diameter than the potentially ported 370s. I wanted to do porting of the TB or a bigger one if possible before I put on 3 inch charge pipes

sorry... if I went to much in details as to help you in case you would somehow decide to go with the maxima09 + TBs...


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