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1slow370 10-31-2014 05:41 PM

Stopped by again today going to have them make a cover for me for the front of the engine to cover the harnesses and make it look a little more finished.

Edit: also in a first gear pull with vdc on, no traction from 4k up(gunned it at 10 got to 15 before complete wheel spin shifted into second kicked the *** out, let off to half throttle and eased into the power)

mag_black 10-31-2014 06:36 PM

dyno run vids?

Masterbeatty 10-31-2014 07:12 PM

Fuckin beast mode engaged! That idol sounds like a damn V8. Oooooweee. I am happy for you dude as that is quite an accomplishment and I hope it pays for itself in smiles.

Megan370z 10-31-2014 08:48 PM

you almost make wish I kept the VVEL ... but oh well I raise my :tiphat: to your built ;)

Dcocci 10-31-2014 10:19 PM

Oh my god that idle is nasty. Are you considering any head work in the future? This is a really cool build!

Elmo370z 11-01-2014 12:55 PM

what was the can in the trunk?

1slow370 11-01-2014 01:06 PM

Drysump oil tank

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ZKraken22 11-01-2014 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 3017248)
NO2 is not Natural Aspiration, it is form of forced induction AKA shoving more air into the motor than it otherwise normally can. The world record is that I am making at least 20 more whp than anyone else with a vhr that isn't using FI. I have 100 more hp with the added stress of boost or nitrous. Deal.

Though I doubt you have the world record NA Z. All those sponsored company's that track the Z for competition. You might have the record for a customer Car.

1slow370 11-01-2014 06:31 PM

For a vhr it is. No one has gotten more with vvel

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valpozguy 11-01-2014 11:32 PM

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Masterbeatty 11-01-2014 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 3019038)
For a vhr it is. No one has gotten more with vvel

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This is a true statement. All the grand am race cars are HR heads and shamus old car is with a 4.0 stroker with an HR head also. The jun cam car is probably runner up.

1slow370 11-01-2014 11:40 PM

Track vids tomorrow unless i fail tech, may need a firewall for the tank.

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Elmo370z 11-02-2014 01:15 AM

what type of piston and rods does your car have?

DEpointfive0 11-02-2014 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3019385)
what type of piston and rods does your car have?

Stock

1slow370 11-02-2014 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 3019399)
Stock

yep stock rods, pistons, crank, bearings, timing gear, valves, springs, lifters, vvel, ports(nothing is ported). the only internal changes were the cams and removing the oil pump.

There was some slow secret sauce poured into the trans to help with the higher rpm shifts tho, eat that TSM lol

Elmo370z 11-02-2014 09:55 AM

geez, the stock internals don't mind that many rpm's?

G37sHKS 11-02-2014 10:59 AM

Im just curious, since your budget and engine was open why you didn't go for stroker to get the most out of it?

valpozguy 11-02-2014 02:34 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought that hi rev motors work better with shorter stroke?

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BGTV8 11-02-2014 03:52 PM

Based on my research (JWT, Unitech, the NISMO engine-builder with Kelly Racing), with replacement rod bolts both the VQ35HR and VQ37VHR are both safe to 8800rpm (although the jury is still out on running the VVEL that hard for sustained periods - there is no real empirical detail).

With OEM rod-bolts, I'd be reluctant to exceed 8000rpm, but that is just me.

Remember, NASCAR engines run 9500rpm and more for hours and they are all >3-inch stroke.

1slow370 11-02-2014 06:25 PM

Just got back gonna load up the video latter tonight, really need to adress traction issues. Pulled 2.328 60ft and still trapped 113.1 at 13.3. It has got the power to go deep 12's but i might as well be launching in second with my 60ft times.

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FL 4Motion 11-02-2014 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BGTV8 (Post 3019835)
Based on my research (JWT, Unitech, the NISMO engine-builder with Kelly Racing), with replacement rod bolts both the VQ35HR and VQ37VHR are both safe to 8800rpm (although the jury is still out on running the VVEL that hard for sustained periods - there is no real empirical detail).

With OEM rod-bolts, I'd be reluctant to exceed 8000rpm, but that is just me.

Remember, NASCAR engines run 9500rpm and more for hours and they are all >3-inch stroke.

So the stock Pistons/rods/crankshaft etc can handle 8800rpm if the rod bolts and oiling system are upgraded? Probably would want to use hr heads as well.

EZT 11-02-2014 07:34 PM

Man, that sounds absolutely beautiful.

1slow370 11-03-2014 12:20 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks98nrLnLHw

TerribleONE 11-03-2014 12:22 PM

Nice trap speed. What tires were you using and how was the track prep?

1slow370 11-03-2014 12:24 PM

Track prep was ok tires were stock nismo, and i only got 3 runs in it was hella busy. Probably could have knocked off more time if i could have gotten more runs in. I was shaving time off as i was getting better launches 14.4-13.9-13.3 i could have gotten into the 12's with more runs but it really needs better tires. Really was surprised with the amount of wheelspin it was so much harder to get a good launch than when it was stock.

Nuki 11-03-2014 02:29 PM

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1slow370 11-03-2014 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 3019652)
Im just curious, since your budget and engine was open why you didn't go for stroker to get the most out of it?

budget was not unlimited and i wanted to see what it wil do.

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TopgunZ 11-04-2014 03:01 PM

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BGTV8 11-04-2014 05:50 PM

If the TB are holding the engine back, take a peek at these:

Fly-by-Wire Throttle Bodies, AT Power Online Shop

1slow370 11-04-2014 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BGTV8 (Post 3022038)
If the TB are holding the engine back, take a peek at these:

Fly-by-Wire Throttle Bodies, AT Power Online Shop

that's why i have twin 70mm throttles and 3" intakes and 5" filters

1slow370 11-10-2014 01:00 PM

Finished installing my wide band and oil gauge, temporarily mounted in the cubby until i get a 3rd gauge and put them in the triple cluster. will get pics up later, brake pads on order, rear 305/30-19 RS3's reserved for the track. Car has been running good.

TerribleONE 11-10-2014 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 3027389)
Finished installing my wide band and oil gauge, temporarily mounted in the cubby until i get a 3rd gauge and put them in the triple cluster. will get pics up later, brake pads on order, rear 305/30-19 RS3's reserved for the track. Car has been running good.

Very nice. What pads did you go with?

1slow370 11-10-2014 02:58 PM

project mu club racer, want to get the z1 rotors but without sponsorship it isn't going to happen haha...yet

1slow370 11-14-2014 02:46 PM

Had to cancel my brake pad order, in stock turned into 8 weeks :shakes head:

Edit: just for clarification pads were purchased from a shop on ebay.

martin82 11-15-2014 03:21 PM

Next time send me a message I can help, a lot of us are switching over to winmax from project mu cr and xp10's

synolimit 11-16-2014 04:57 AM

im not trying to be negative here so stay with me...1/4 trap SPEED is nice to see true HP because if you take an object from point A to point B from 0-113 mph you can ONLY do that if you have XXX HP right? simple physics right?

now stock these are 270-280hp with 105-106 mph traps. you have 100 more HP than stock but only doing 113 mph. to me one of these numbers is very very off no?

G37Sam 11-16-2014 05:36 AM

The GTR makes 540 hp and traps around 120mph give or take. Going from 105 to 113 mph is a major improvement IMO, and as the OP mentioned, with a few more runs/grip he would've definitely seen an improvement.

I'd love to see a few runs with stickier tires!

synolimit 11-16-2014 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 3032279)
The GTR makes 540 hp and traps around 120mph give or take. Going from 105 to 113 mph is a major improvement IMO, and as the OP mentioned, with a few more runs/grip he would've definitely seen an improvement.

I'd love to see a few runs with stickier tires!

that looks spot on too!! 3700 lbs car with driver and 540 hp should trap around 120 mph.

id guess OP is around 3400 lbs with driver. at 371 rwhp and with these cars having around 17.5% drive train loss, thats 450hp. trap should be around 118 mph but its not. traps at the moment are showing about 330 rwhp or 400hp.

Alstann 11-16-2014 11:26 AM

Agreed. Trap is a little low, but there are many factors deciding that I suppose.

synolimit 11-16-2014 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Alstann (Post 3032398)
Agreed. Trap is a little low, but there are many factors deciding that I suppose.

Well I need to correct myself. They are actually not that far off because OP was in STD on the dyno. If you take SAE corrections then figure things like weather, tires etc 113 is about what he should be doing.


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