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Jshvr 09-19-2014 06:45 PM

Racelogic Traction Control
 
Well with the newly 500 whp with my twin turbo I have decided I want to get the racelogic trac control with no lift shift and launch rpm control. I tried going through GTM but they can not get it to me anytime soon so I decided to go through another dealer. This dealer (race lab motorsports) said that it's not possible to have the "no lift shift". I am not a expert on electronics but isn't the no lift shift just another switch on the clutch that would activate another rpm control?

nomodsjk 09-19-2014 08:31 PM

Dude for the love of god don't buy anything from gtm. You are new here but please do your research. The guy Sam who runs that place has screwed hundreds of people out of close to a million dollars and has filed for bankruptcy protection. Stay away and if not you've been warned

GaleForce 09-19-2014 08:55 PM

Contact Jmac, http://www.the370z.com/group-buys/94...-part-2-a.html

Jshvr 09-19-2014 09:05 PM

1. I am not "new" here
2. I have the GTM stage 2 TT kit so I know first hand on how LONG it takes and how junky there stuff is. I would t recommend them to my worst enemy.
3. I know my research and just had a simple question on that specific piece of the racelogic unit

GaleForce 09-19-2014 09:53 PM

Jmac has your answers

roplusbee 09-19-2014 11:25 PM

Defensive much? GaleForce just spoon fed you and answered your posted question at the same time. Calm down......

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Jshvr 09-20-2014 06:26 AM

My question was never answered......

Chuck33079 09-20-2014 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jshvr (Post 2972515)
My question was never answered......

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2972232)

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2972263)
Jmac has your answers

:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Jshvr (Post 2972238)
2. I have the GTM stage 2 TT kit so I know first hand on how LONG it takes and how junky there stuff is. I would t recommend them to my worst enemy.

To be fair, their kits are great. If they actually ship you one. It's the customer support and tuning where they fail miserably. I've been nothing but happy with my GTM TT kit, as have most of the people here with them. Not sure what you're complaining about here exactly.

GaleForce 09-20-2014 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 2972303)
Defensive much? GaleForce just spoon fed you and answered your posted question at the same time. Calm down......

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I owe you a rep(s) for making me laugh. :tup: :tiphat:

phunk 09-20-2014 09:40 PM

You can no-lift shift without any electronic assistance... I do it all the time!

roplusbee 09-21-2014 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2972713)
I owe you a rep(s) for making me laugh. :tup: :tiphat:

I'm here for you, lol

Jshvr 09-21-2014 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2972699)
:rolleyes:



To be fair, their kits are great. If they actually ship you one. It's the customer support and tuning where they fail miserably. I've been nothing but happy with my GTM TT kit, as have most of the people here with them. Not sure what you're complaining about here exactly.

My kit probably would have fit a ford f-150 better. I spent 75% more in labor because because of their junky kit.

Chuck33079 09-21-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jshvr (Post 2973514)
My kit probably would have fit a ford f-150 better. I spent 75% more in labor because because of their junky kit.


Very odd. Usually their stuff fits ok. Very possible you got a bad one, though. It's happened before. Had your shop installed other GTM kits for comparison?

phunk 09-21-2014 06:14 PM

The only GTM TT we ever installed, we threw out every pipe from the kit. Nothing fit good enough to run. Issues with steering shaft and joint clearance were the real problem. It's been a while but I think justin ended up having to raise the engine or move the rack.

Edit: this was on a 350 though FWIW. Never tried a 370 kit

Chuck33079 09-21-2014 06:29 PM

Racelogic Traction Control
 
They addressed the steering somewhat on the 370. I think that their build quality dropped off pretty sharply after their ship started to sink and Sam had his lobotomy.

Jshvr 09-21-2014 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2973623)
Very odd. Usually their stuff fits ok. Very possible you got a bad one, though. It's happened before. Had your shop installed other GTM kits for comparison?

My problems included but not limited to wrong air filters, flanges for two different BOV's, piping not fitting and brackets not lining up, headers hitting frame, bad canned tune, promised kit in 4 weeks received half of kit in two months other half in another 2 months. I'm forgetting something else. With that being said once all that got worked out the turbos are great and the power is smooth and strong. The tune blew a piston ring and now my engine is currently being rebuilt with rods, pistons, main studs, head studs, ect. Please pray for me.

synolimit 09-21-2014 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2972699)
:rolleyes:



To be fair, their kits are great. If they actually ship you one. It's the customer support and tuning where they fail miserably. I've been nothing but happy with my GTM TT kit, as have most of the people here with them. Not sure what you're complaining about here exactly.

Lol really? This is what they shipped a guy recently.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ps4cb6e7ae.jpg

Quote from him...


"Here's the oil cooler bracket that they sent me.. Didn't even come close to fitting so I had to get to get the black one fabbed up to suit..."

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ps88823d7e.jpg

Chuck33079 09-21-2014 08:23 PM

Yes Scotty, their quality dropped off dramatically after it started getting bad at GTM. It's almost like someone said that exact same thing an hour ago.

synolimit 09-21-2014 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2973811)
Yes Scotty, their quality dropped off dramatically after it started getting bad at GTM. It's almost like someone said that exact same thing an hour ago.

But you couldn't be bothered to say it a day ago? This new to you? 9,900 posts you'd think you'd learn a thing or two before hand.

Chuck33079 09-21-2014 10:18 PM

Racelogic Traction Control
 
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GaleForce 09-22-2014 06:30 AM

:ohsnap1:

I did lol at "cockholster", that one is new to me. :tup:

nomodsjk 09-22-2014 07:15 AM

New to me also! Good one

synolimit 09-22-2014 07:22 AM

The jealousy is palpable. Did your mom install your kit little boy? Pay for it too? When she gets done wiping your *** do you get to drive it ever? My **** does reach around and fit into my side holster so thank you. I'm sure your labia majora gets to you at times. I'll prescribe you some vagisil for it cup cake. Have a good one. Try to keep up next time ;)

Chuck33079 09-22-2014 07:30 AM

Racelogic Traction Control
 
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nomodsjk 09-22-2014 08:42 PM

Aw come on guys this is not what this forum is about. No need for all that negativity

Chuck33079 09-22-2014 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nomodsjk (Post 2975028)
Aw come on guys this is not what this forum is about. No need for all that negativity


Agreed.

roplusbee 09-23-2014 03:06 AM

Wow.........that took an interesting turn. Did the OP get the info that he wanted?

Jshvr 09-24-2014 03:46 PM

I'll think twice before asking a straight forward question next time. I get accused of being "new", didn't research, and being spoon fed. Forget this forum.

roplusbee 09-25-2014 03:44 AM

I am sure you will find my350 or zilvia more hospitable.

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Chuck33079 09-25-2014 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jshvr (Post 2977243)
I'll think twice before asking a straight forward question next time. I get accused of being "new", didn't research, and being spoon fed. Forget this forum.

Seriously, Jmac is the only person here who will have your answer. PM him and you'll get everything you need.

GaleForce 09-25-2014 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 2977735)
I am sure you will find my350 or zilvia more hospitable.

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:icon18:

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2977874)
Seriously, Jmac is the only person here who will have your answer. PM him and you'll get everything you need.

:gtfo2:

:bowrofl:

pokeyl 09-29-2014 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 2973181)
You can no-lift shift without any electronic assistance... I do it all the time!

How?

phunk 09-29-2014 11:44 PM

No-lift shifting is just driving technique. Just do not lift when you shift, and you will be no-lift shifting!

victorofhavoc 09-30-2014 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 2982930)
No-lift shifting is just driving technique. Just do not lift when you shift, and you will be no-lift shifting!

hahah, you can do this, but you'll also be replacing transmissions as fast as clutches...

most no-lift-shift systems limit your rpm when the clutch is down so you don't blow up your transmission

nomodsjk 09-30-2014 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jshvr (Post 2972238)
1. I am not "new" here
2. I have the GTM stage 2 TT kit so I know first hand on how LONG it takes and how junky there stuff is. I would t recommend them to my worst enemy.
3. I know my research and just had a simple question on that specific piece of the racelogic unit

1. I wasn't trying to break your balls. I was sincerely trying to help
2. You had 12 posts so forgive me for thinking you were new
3. If you're not new and did your research then why did you even attempt using gtm?
4. Again I wasn't trying to be sarcastic I was genuinely concerned for your pockets.

Mitco39 09-30-2014 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by victorofhavoc (Post 2983218)
hahah, you can do this, but you'll also be replacing transmissions as fast as clutches...

most no-lift-shift systems limit your rpm when the clutch is down so you don't blow up your transmission

Tranmission and engine will be fine. Its the clutch that takes the hit. If you have a ceramic clutch that is made for launching it will hold just fine. It does shock the system a bit when you use the factory rev limiter but hey that just makes you faster! lol. I have my no lift set at about 5600rpm I believe to lessen that.

victorofhavoc 09-30-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2983244)
Tranmission and engine will be fine. Its the clutch that takes the hit. If you have a ceramic clutch that is made for launching it will hold just fine. It does shock the system a bit when you use the factory rev limiter but hey that just makes you faster! lol. I have my no lift set at about 5600rpm I believe to lessen that.

If you have a very strong clutch you also move your load from the clutch to the gears. These transmissions are very durable, but not impossible to break, especially with FI. Coming from a WRX, I can tell you many horror stories of people shifting into the next gear while at 7k rpm and ripping 3rd gear into bits :(

Mitco39 09-30-2014 10:31 AM

But this is a Nissan :)

Its unheard of on this forum. Syncros go but I have yet to see anyone actually grenade the trans. I been no lift shifting since I got the car, and its been boosted for the majority of its life. Second clutch but still first trans. Hell I cooked my clutched doing a standing launch in 2nd.

There is just something about revving to 7500rpm and then popping the clutch in 2nd and watching the smoke. We all know 1st gear is much to short to leave a proper burnout, lol.

Either way I have 0 issues with flat foot shifting this gearbox. You just have to make sure its done right as to not take out a synchro which lets be honest can happen to anyone who isn't the greatest at shifting.

phunk 09-30-2014 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by victorofhavoc (Post 2983218)
hahah, you can do this, but you'll also be replacing transmissions as fast as clutches...

most no-lift-shift systems limit your rpm when the clutch is down so you don't blow up your transmission

61,000 miles on my transmission. I first no-lift shifted it about 20 minutes away from the dealer when I bought it. The stock 2 piece sprung flywheel isn't a big fan of it (makes a clunk when it bottoms out), otherwise you're fine if you know how to do it.

Limit the RPM when the clutch is down? If you take so long to shift that your rpm even has a chance to fall, why are you no-lift shifting anyway? :)

victorofhavoc 09-30-2014 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 2983418)
61,000 miles on my transmission. I first no-lift shifted it about 20 minutes away from the dealer when I bought it. The stock 2 piece sprung flywheel isn't a big fan of it (makes a clunk when it bottoms out), otherwise you're fine if you know how to do it.

Limit the RPM when the clutch is down? If you take so long to shift that your rpm even has a chance to fall, why are you no-lift shifting anyway? :)

? ...I meant limit rpm to say 5500 or 5600 while you have your foot on the gas and the clutch at the same time so that you're not dropping into the next geat at 7k rpm and having to shock your driveline much harder.

Hey if no one around here has destroyed a tooth just dropping clutch close to redline, then I stand corrected lol. I come from a world of subarus and porsches...i've seen too many teeth stuck to the magnet on the drain bolt to even attempt this in the Z haha.

If these cars are this durable i think it's time i just get a heavier clutch and start ripping those launches at 5k


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