2010 Nismo has an Oil Cooler!
 

First Drive: 2010 Nissan 370Z Nismo simply rocks — Autoblog

At least the guys at Nissan are listening!

The article doesn't really say that. What does "Lots of coolers" really mean? Remember, all the original press cars from earlier in the year had "lots of coolers" that never made it to production.

I'll believe it when i see the specs.

It doesn't say it that is true. But you can see it in the front grill on the right side. Now let's see if they actually come from the dealer that way not a nissan press car.

Word. They always equip test cars with stuff not normally released with production models to make the brand/car look good.

Maybe.. We'll see..

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....zreview004.jpg

It's not hidden in the wheel well like the press cars...

Ya this time it looks real.

It looks like it is from stillen I see some red.

Apparently the 370z just isn't a sports car to that journalist... wow he must be married to Danica Patrick and drive 100x better than her.

Well something is different. The body damper is flopped 180 degrees from the 09. I guess they did that because the oil cooler would not fit the other way. All the 09 oil coolers on test cars were hidden.

True. I wouldn't think they would leave the sticker upside down on the damper. I personally think it's temporary since the sticker is still upside down.

Here is a photoshop of the grill.......

That red is the Nismo sticker.

Adding to that... the sticker on the dampener.

I don't see an oil cooler other than what appears to be a larger power steering oil cooler. :confused:

The red wording on the sticker is Yamaha and it is upside down. The large oil cooler is on the right side of the grill.

A little adjustment of brightness/contrast should help a little.

Holy moly... that massive thing!? No wonder I couldn't make it out on my monitor. :o

Does anyone know if this is 100% factual for the 2010's?

I read the thread and saw the pics, yet, I've not seen any solid evidence to solidify the hype.

I'm hoping there's an oil cooler standard though :)

Don't hold your breath. The changes for 2010 on the 370 have already been announced and it does not include a cooler. The Nismo may be different....who knows. Regardless, it's a problem easily fixed for <$300

Thank you, I'm planning on getting a Nismo, so I'm hoping the "cooler" that was seen in the photos is a reality.

I searched a little and kinda found these changes:

No yellow
New black cherry or something color
USB instead of aux port

Is there more?

Thanks,

Are you going to be tracking your car a lot??

If not you won't need a cooler, even in cali.

vs my 2009:

http://www.the370z.com/members/vipor...ront-brace.jpg

The '09 test car had one, but my car didn't come with one. I'm guessing it'll be the same for '10.

I'm gonna try installing the GTM oil cooler on my nismo, I imagine I'm gonna have to take out the lateral stabilizer :/

I called Nissan to inquire as to why they're equipping test cars with oil coolers, but not dealer cars. In addition I also noted the higher oil temps the VQ37 exhibits and how over time this can negatively impact the lifespan of the motor.

My point was simple, if I'm going to spend $40k+ for a car; I don't want to have to worry about the life of the motor being shortened due to oil consumption or excessively high oil temps, especially for an N/A car.

I'm patiently waiting for a "call back," hope I get one-

What's the number? I'll call as well to make sure they realize this is an actual concern.

Was it this one?

Nissan Consumer Affairs
P.O. Box 685003
Franklin TN 37068-5003
(800) NISSAN-1 (or 800-647-7261)
8:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.,
Eastern / Central Time / Pacific Time
Monday through Friday

LOL...You'll never get a straight answer to that inquiry. Besides, they've already made a public statement on this to justify their position.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nissan USA
The 370Z has an engine protection system that reduces peak engine speeds when the oil temperature exceeds recommended levels in order to protect against possible engine damage. Aggressive driving of the 370Z on a race track at sustained high engine speeds can cause increases in oil temperature and may activate this engine protection system. To avoid activation of this engine protection system and these reduced peak engine speeds, Nissan recommends an oil cooler be fitted to the 370Z before driving it on a race track. A Nissan Motorsports accessory oil cooler kit is available for customer purchase through authorized Nissan dealerships for race track use. The part number is 21300-SS370.

An oil cooler is not necessary for normal operation of the vehicle on public roads. The addition of an oil cooler would have raised the price of the car and potentially moved it out of the reach of some customers. Value has been a core principle of the Z car since the original 240Z and we choose to uphold this core principle by not adding additional costs that are unnecessary for normal use. For those individuals who choose to drive their vehicle on a race track, the oil cooler is available as an aftersales item.

The oil cooler is a Nissan Motorsports item and as such is sold without warranty, express or implied, unless expressly prohibited by law in which case the warranty provided is the minimum required by law. The installation of the Nissan Motorsports oil cooler does not, by itself, “void” the vehicle warranty. However any damage caused by the installation or use of this part is expressly excluded under the terms of the Nissan New Vehicle Limited warranty.

Maybe not. You might have to be creative on where to mount it though. Very happy with mine and the hardest part was just figuring out where to mount it. Laying on my back and must have spun around 50 times trying different locations and line plumbing.

There was one minor issue with mine as both oil lines were 48" long. Didn't realize till later one is suppose to be longer than the other. No big deal but it would have been a tad neater install.

I recall reading it, but as I'm sure most will agree, it's a load of BS. My 07 STI, being driven spiritedly, doesn't hit over 220 degrees. I'm amazed an N/A car can exhibit 200 degree plus oil temps and not have some kind of oil cooler factory. That's just poor planning, motors are far more expensive to replace than adding oil coolers, especially factory, wouldn't you agree?

Mod

How much did it cost you again to make one? Nissan, must really pay through the nose for parts and have an expansive oil cooler R&D program as it sure sounds expensive and high tech.

Boy is that creative or what? How about a little more spent on zing and a tiny bit less on bling? Just a little bit. How many NISMO badges does it have again?

LOL...Yeah, the problem is $200 in parts on the assembly line translates into $1000 in the showroom. It's a bogus excuse for sure if they were really interested in building a true Enthusiasts car....

they screwed up so they BS'd a reason. That's all it really is.

Sorry I missed this post, yes, I called the 1-800 number.

I'm baffled that the lack of an oil cooler, especially on the Nismo, can be accepted, on any level.

I believe if a company, such as Nissan, takes the time (which is money) to issue an "official statement" regarding one of their products; that directly illustrates the seriousness of the situation. Which leads me to beileve enough individuals/consumers have made it a point to address the situation with their dealers and/or service people to where it's been escalated to the coporate level. This alone should be enough for them to at least invesitigate the problem thoroughly.

Maybe, I'll never see 220+ plus degrees, but having test driven a nismo z, and having reaced 220+ degree oil temperatures on 3-4 mile test drives, at night and over 2 nights (back to back), leaves me concerned. MY 07' STI w/ mods doesn't hit 220+ when I'm "spiritedly" driving the car.

You can't deny the validity of my concern, as a member this morning posted, his auto 370's motor is going to be replaced at 2,100 miles- :ugh2:

The more people who make noise, the easier it is for Nissan to hear it, period-

Oh we have made noise, and we got that three paragraph response.
On the street you really should not hit anything above 250, I have hit 250 and it instantly dropped as I was pushing the car a little beyond legal limits.

On the notion of the engine replacement, this has to do with low oil levels. Maybe because of high oil temps but I really doubt it.

If noise has been made and ,only, a 3 paragraph response given; more noise ought to be made, agreed? :tup:

If there's no recall for an oil cooler install and motors are being replaced. This directly weakens the car's resale value, due to differing chassis and motor mileage.

Am I assuming that motors could be replaced due to higher oil temps / consumption? Yes, I am, and I'd like to know where the oil is going, as it's obviously not staying in the motors. Theer's no excuse for a motor to be replaced at 2,100 miles, that's laughable at best-

I want to get a Nismo Z, I really do, but if Nissan is more satisfied with replacing motors than installing oil coolers... :ugh2: 1 replaced motor = how many oil coolers, anyone have any idea?

There is no recall

Engines are not being replaced due to oil temps (where did this come from?)

Most engines stop consuming oil once broken in

Engine replacements at low miles are because of isolated catastrophic parts failures. Not the norm


False internet rumors continue despite all these issues being addressed at length here... Ah well.

You missed my point; I'm aware there's no recall (I meant in the near future) and that the oil temps may not be the specific cause, but we can agree that oil can vaporize at higher temperatures. I'm not saying 2xx degrees will cause oil to vaporize, but in conjunction with higher oil temperatues, consumption can eventually occur, which I'm assuming to be the culprit behind the 2,100 engine replacement.

All good though, I'd like some more in-depth info. I called Nissan, again, and I'm hoping some "tech" person will be able to give me some solid answers to some of the items you've mentioned.

I bought a diff cooler and oil cooler from GTM for my nismo for that exact equation

1 replaced motor = how many oil coolers?

Not the case, it is other parts going wrong. For an engine to lose 4 3/8 qrts of oil in 1900 miles, is not vaporizing. You are talking seals lined up and dumping oil out the exhaust. Trust me I know. Look at my sig...lol

I saw Mod's post in the other thread, regarding your car specifically I believe. If oil was being dumped out the exhaust, wouldn't the car have been smoking up quite the storm, ie: lots and lots of white smoke coming out the exhaust?

All good, I'm not trying to piss people off or mislead anyone, I'm just a bit annoyed this motor seems to have an interesting appetite for oil-

-Chris

Your assumptions are wrong. Oil did not "Vaporize" out of the engine.

Also, knowing how OEM customer relations operations work (21 years with Honda), you're not gonna get squat out of them regarding your questions on this...

It's not a problem unless you make it one...