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2011 Nismo#91 07-07-2014 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 2886218)
So dealer is in process of teardown, and calls to tell me my clutch disc and flywheel look pretty bad, and recommend replacement. I'm stunned. 26k??? I've driven manual cars all my life, never replaced a clutch so soon. I took a vehicle to the scrapyard from new with 175k on it, original clutch.
Am I being hosed here? $1800 without labor.

Probably, this car isn't know for having a weak clutch (besides the slave cylinder). But without seeing it first hand I can't say if it really needs to be replaced or not. Ask them this, :"if it is failing after 26k why pay to replace it out of your own pocket with the same garbage terrible clutch that will fail again in another 26k?"

Fountainhead 07-07-2014 09:43 AM

I agree, I guess it's all that power? My Pinto had 130K on it when I rebuilt the engine to combat oil puff on startup and fix the leaks on front and rear main seals staining the street/driveway where I parked. Clutch looked barely worn, and you KNOW it wasn't expensive to begin with. I only changed the thrust bearing because my old man recommended it. Little 1.9 liter couldn't hurt that clutch no matter what. I beat the s**t out of that poor car too, ran it on recycled auto zone type oil it's entire life.

I'm at a loss to recommend the next step, DevPoint deals with Nissan quite a lot, he can recommend a good next step.

RonRizz 07-07-2014 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Werty (Post 2886236)
go look at it, post up a picture. dont rely solely on their word

They asked.me to stop and look at it. Told me it had "hot spots" on it, and would likely need replaced in near future. Doing it now would save me on labor, since its already out.. I told them I never had it slip, or shudder, and to put it back in the car. I'll deal with it later if the need arises. (Like 60 or 70k down the road). And that could be YEARS from now. I hope.

Fountainhead 07-07-2014 10:01 AM

I would still go by there and look at it RonRizz. Curiousity would be killing me.

2011 Nismo#91 07-07-2014 10:39 AM

I'd rather have them give you a new slave cylinder while they're in there rather then a new clutch.

RonRizz 07-07-2014 10:39 AM

Quite frankly, they could show me the disc from a 69 camaro and I wouldn't know it from a hole in the ground.
Who's to say they don't have a "shop disc" lying around for just such occasions? Not that I wouldn't trust a dealership.......I had it in for oil change and inspect at around 11k with a coupon for $18 change and they hit me with an $80 for 4 wheel align because tires looked choppy....they looked fine to me, but dealer says align was out of spec......phooey.

Plasmite 07-07-2014 11:19 AM

I hate stealerships. They basically love making up projects. I have yet to take my car back in to one since I made them install an aftermarket deck cause they couldn't get me a nav. I still ended up taking the install apart and redoing it properly

chii370 07-07-2014 04:13 PM

I dont trust the dealer to do any work. I even put the silly illuminated kick plates in myself on my 13 since on my 09 they broke the foam block thing under the carpet on the drivers side so it never sat flush to the floor anymore while trying to run the wires under them to the plug. Such a simple task and they cave manned it.

Another incident where someone tried to break into my car and had actually pulled the door handle "all of it" away from the door. Took it to the dealership to fix it and they HAD to replace the entire door mechanism inside and out for some dumb *** reason. So after waiting 2 hours for the ******* to read the instructions he hands me the keys and i get in and drive out to the parking lot. Then just out of curiosity I parked, got out and tested the door from the inside "locked and unlocked" and then the outside "locked and unlocked" and what do ya know, the god damn door wouldnt open after it was locked then unlocked from the outside. Because he had installed it wrong even while following step by step instructions.

If they cant install kickplates and a door handle you think they can work on something as complex as an ENGINE? laughable

They know NOTHING about the damn Z and GTR, every time I see them working on one they have a wrench in one hand and a set of instructions they are seeing for the first time in the other. Your far better off doing the work yourself or taking it to an experienced well known mechanic that services all makes and models. Even then its a pain to find someone you can trust that wont lie and try to sell you extra parts and labor you dont need.

RonRizz 07-09-2014 06:17 PM

brought her home today...lets see if Nissan got this engine right. Got the "break it in" speech AGAIN...... lol. No word yet from consumer affairs on my exhaust....

Spooler 07-09-2014 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chii370 (Post 2886791)
I dont trust the dealer to do any work. I even put the silly illuminated kick plates in myself on my 13 since on my 09 they broke the foam block thing under the carpet on the drivers side so it never sat flush to the floor anymore while trying to run the wires under them to the plug. Such a simple task and they cave manned it.

Another incident where someone tried to break into my car and had actually pulled the door handle "all of it" away from the door. Took it to the dealership to fix it and they HAD to replace the entire door mechanism inside and out for some dumb *** reason. So after waiting 2 hours for the ******* to read the instructions he hands me the keys and i get in and drive out to the parking lot. Then just out of curiosity I parked, got out and tested the door from the inside "locked and unlocked" and then the outside "locked and unlocked" and what do ya know, the god damn door wouldnt open after it was locked then unlocked from the outside. Because he had installed it wrong even while following step by step instructions.

If they cant install kickplates and a door handle you think they can work on something as complex as an ENGINE? laughable

They know NOTHING about the damn Z and GTR, every time I see them working on one they have a wrench in one hand and a set of instructions they are seeing for the first time in the other. Your far better off doing the work yourself or taking it to an experienced well known mechanic that services all makes and models. Even then its a pain to find someone you can trust that wont lie and try to sell you extra parts and labor you dont need.

You can find a few good Z tech's here and there. Not many. Dealerships don't pay for squat. That's the problem. The day I packed my tools up and took them home was a good day. Was buying an in-cabin air filter for my car the other day. They had a 1971 240z that wouldn't run. The carbs needed to be synced up. They didn't have the tools or know how. I laughed.

Spooler 07-09-2014 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 2889786)
brought her home today...lets see if Nissan got this engine right. Got the "break it in" speech AGAIN...... lol. No word yet from consumer affairs on my exhaust....

I read your story. It sucks. You can get a engine from time to time that the rings just won't seat. The older inline 6 L28 engines could be a pain. Many older tech's that I have talked to said they would take them out and run the crap out of them with no water when they changed an engine. I thought that was crazy but it must of worked for them. I would short change this first change at 1000 miles if it was me. I also would suggest to change the oil every 6 months or 3,000 miles. My wife's 03' Maxima will eat some oil at 80,000 miles if I let it go over 6 months. She doesn't drive that much and is only 6 miles to work. It kills the oil. The worst kind of a commute, a very short one.

rgunho 07-13-2014 05:07 PM

I check my oil a few times between oil changes. I've only added maybe half a quart between 4k mi oil changes.

Ditto on the comments about Nissan Techs. Do it yourself or find a reputal indy garage.

RonRizz 07-16-2014 08:27 AM

well I finally heard back from Nissan today. As I expected they baulked on my dual exhaust. I kind of expected as much, but they did offer me warranty on my engine up to 100,000 miles or 7 years which I'm satisfied with. The way things have been going I'm gonna need it.


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