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ZForce 09-03-2009 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 184169)
^ +1

Kyle, has this new race oil cooler been fully tested yet?

Very promising product, although I am sitting on the fence for the time being until I hear more of testing results.

Will this race cooler be suitable for street and track or is it strictly plumbed (geared) for track only?
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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 184666)
Not to step on Kyle's thread (I'm a Stillen fan), but I'd caution anyone in the cooler climes to upgrade to a thermostatic sandwich plate. With a cooler this large (Perfect for track use) you stand the possibility of the oil never really getting up to temp on the street...Particularly in the cooler months in the northern areas. You guys (Stillen) really should offer the option of a thermostatic plate with this......Not everyone lives in California!...:-)

I believe you just answered my above question for Cali peeps like myself. Which is YES it can be used on the street, in Hot climates like Cali.

blackbird 09-03-2009 07:05 PM

Will it fit on a 370Z with Gen 3 intake?

JoeD 09-03-2009 07:43 PM

Looks like a great product!! Question I have, though, is without the thermostatic plate...will oil-temps be too low while driving casually on the street or perhaps cruising on the freeway on a cool night? From testimonials, it appears as though the street version did such a phenomenal job at lowering temps that things are right at optimal levels for hard or normal street-driving.

Part of me however thinks that with either the street or track setup, oil-temps will stabilize in the 180-190 range, and the race version will just make it damn near impossible to see temps above 230 on the track. Am I correct in that assessment?

ResIpsa 09-04-2009 08:19 AM

Pulled the Trigger!
 
Mine is in the mail!

Thanks Stillen for the work you guys do!

Shunya 09-04-2009 08:24 AM

Looking good Stillen~!
Pricing isn't too bad either :P
any special pricings for us?

ResIpsa 09-04-2009 09:18 AM

Oil cooler cover.
 
Check out this thread. This guy fabricated a oil cooler cover out of thin sheets of stainless steel (& packing foam but I am not sure what the foam was used for...).

This could be a cheap solution to over cooling.

CTS-CTS-V FAQ: Oil Cooler installation procedure

ZForce 09-04-2009 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 185158)
Looks like a great product!! Question I have, though, is without the thermostatic plate...will oil-temps be too low while driving casually on the street or perhaps cruising on the freeway on a cool night? From testimonials, it appears as though the street version did such a phenomenal job at lowering temps that things are right at optimal levels for hard or normal street-driving.

Part of me however thinks that with either the street or track setup, oil-temps will stabilize in the 180-190 range, and the race version will just make it damn near impossible to see temps above 230 on the track. Am I correct in that assessment?

+1

My thoughts also, with my question above, yours is worded better. :tup:

ZForce 09-04-2009 11:46 AM

Stillen:

Kyle/Josh, you guys throw this out two days ago and have NOT been back to the thread since. The questions are mounting (2 pages).

Would appreciate some answers, there are a number of community members ready to pull the trigger but need some answers to our questions. Thanks again guys for your hard work.

RCZ 09-04-2009 12:07 PM

Very cool, e-mail sent :)

Kyle@STILLEN 09-04-2009 12:44 PM

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I've been on the dyno and in the shop the past few days with our 370.

The street oil cooler is what we would like to recommend for 99% of the owner's of the 370Z's. The race oil cooler will be a bit overkill for the majority of people and just won't be necessary. The street oil cooler has been proven to work very well and offer a big reduction in temperatures. Even on the track the street cooler is working very well. We just wanted to see the temperatures get a little bit lower while on the race track.

sylenze 09-04-2009 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 186253)
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I've been on the dyno and in the shop the past few days with our 370

why would stillen's marketing crew be around when a 370z is being dynod..enough to completely forget to respond to questions on this thread... is it because they are about to announce another great product/kit....:stirthepot:

i bet every FI fanboy just did this...
http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/image...ambergJizz.jpg

Minicobra1 09-05-2009 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 186253)
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I've been on the dyno and in the shop the past few days with our 370.

The street oil cooler is what we would like to recommend for 99% of the owner's of the 370Z's. The race oil cooler will be a bit overkill for the majority of people and just won't be necessary. The street oil cooler has been proven to work very well and offer a big reduction in temperatures. Even on the track the street cooler is working very well. We just wanted to see the temperatures get a little bit lower while on the race track.


So is there a dis-advantage to running the race cooler on the street? I was just driving in traffic yesterday (it was hot, bout 98deg) and was not even close to driving aggressive, my oil temp was fluctuating from 240 - 250. Even on a cool day, my average oil temp is 220. If the race cooler has a 40 degree reduction, would still be at 180 right? Also, I plan on running a supercharger, I have a feeling this will kick up temperatures a bit. Is running the car with too low an oil temp bad, and what is considered too low for this car?
I notice that the car runs really good and feels way more responsive when first starting up in the morning, but as soon as it starts creeping into the 200 range it starts to feel sluggish.

ZForce 09-05-2009 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 186205)
Stillen:

Kyle/Josh, you guys throw this out two days ago and have NOT been back to the thread since. The questions are mounting (2 pages).

Would appreciate some answers, there are a number of community members ready to pull the trigger but need some answers to our questions. Thanks again guys for your hard work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 186253)
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I've been on the dyno and in the shop the past few days with our 370.

The street oil cooler is what we would like to recommend for 99% of the owner's of the 370Z's. The race oil cooler will be a bit overkill for the majority of people and just won't be necessary. The street oil cooler has been proven to work very well and offer a big reduction in temperatures. Even on the track the street cooler is working very well. We just wanted to see the temperatures get a little bit lower while on the race track.


Kyle, my apologies if I sounded pushy, I did not realize you were indeed taking care of the 370Z community. Appreciate the response on street recommendations versus track. Keep up the great work guys.

Kyle@STILLEN 09-08-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sylenze (Post 186268)
why would stillen's marketing crew be around when a 370z is being dynod..enough to completely forget to respond to questions on this thread... is it because they are about to announce another great product/kit....:stirthepot:

i bet every FI fanboy just did this...
http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/image...ambergJizz.jpg

HAHA. I wear quite a few hats around here but last week we were doing a bunch of video's of our performance parts. Intake, exhaust, headers, HFC's and their dyno numbers as well as their sounds. FI video's aren't far from being ready but it will be a little while longer.

Kyle@STILLEN 09-08-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 187166)
So is there a dis-advantage to running the race cooler on the street? I was just driving in traffic yesterday (it was hot, bout 98deg) and was not even close to driving aggressive, my oil temp was fluctuating from 240 - 250. Even on a cool day, my average oil temp is 220. If the race cooler has a 40 degree reduction, would still be at 180 right? Also, I plan on running a supercharger, I have a feeling this will kick up temperatures a bit. Is running the car with too low an oil temp bad, and what is considered too low for this car?
I notice that the car runs really good and feels way more responsive when first starting up in the morning, but as soon as it starts creeping into the 200 range it starts to feel sluggish.

Judging by your list of modifications in your sig. I'm assuming you do not currently have our street oil cooler? I would suggest starting with this. For street use I think you would have a hard time pushing the temperatures beyond a safe point with the street cooler. The race cooler might be a bit much.

When we say that the race cooler might be a bit much we mean that in two ways: 1) financially speaking-At the end of the day the race cooler is substantially more expensive. We know this but the core is substantially larger so the cost is going to be more. I firmly believe in the philosophy that if you don't need to spend the money, why spend it? If you don't plan on driving your car hard on the race track then the street cooler will be fine for you. 2) Streetability- With the race oil cooler in particular you will want to have a thermostatic plate installed. We will have this option soon, we're just trying to find a source so that we can be competitively priced. As it stands right now you can pick up a thermostatic plate for pretty cheap from sources like Amazon.

It is possible to have your oil run too cold. 180-200 degrees is pretty much optimum and realistically 180 is on the cool side.


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