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wstar 02-04-2013 06:27 AM

I should add, to counterbalance all my bad advice above: the obvious professional way to get it off easily is to remove the radiator first so you can get direct straight access to the bolt with a large impact wrench (and a torch for heat if necc).

Sh0velMan 02-07-2013 08:38 AM

Has anyone that has installed one of these pulley sets noticed any perceptible difference in steering effort due to under-driving the power steering pump?

Just curious. :)

DEpointfive0 02-07-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2152125)
Has anyone that has installed one of these pulley sets noticed any perceptible difference in steering effort due to under-driving the power steering pump?

Just curious. :)

I think a lot of people ask this and no one has a definitive answer... I have the 20% UD from Stillen and I didn't feel any difference

XwChriswX 02-07-2013 01:00 PM

If you have the NST set, the PS pulley isn't UD, it's the Crank and Alternator pulleys that are lighter...

DEpointfive0 02-07-2013 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2152772)
If you have the NST set, the PS pulley isn't UD, it's the Crank and Alternator pulleys that are lighter...

... You need to sleep more... If the crank is UD, all your accessories are UD

Sh0velMan 02-07-2013 01:07 PM

lolserskates

XwChriswX 02-07-2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2152782)
... You need to sleep more... If the crank is UD, all your accessories are UD

:facepalm:

Dude, read the OP:

Quote:

The NST Kit includes a 10% Underdrive Crank Pulley along with a 10% Overdrive (faster) Alternator Pulley. This means that the alternator will run at OEM speeds when the NST kit is used. Extra power, torque, and response... no need to worry about a weak battery, dimming lights, or poor a/c performance at idle.
-10% + 10% = 0% difference...

Everything else runs at normal speeds. I'm used to being sleep deprived. :tiphat:

DEpointfive0 02-07-2013 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2152786)
:facepalm:

Dude, read the OP:



-10% + 10% = 0% difference...

Everything else runs at normal speeds. I'm used to being sleep deprived. :tiphat:

And sh0velman asked about Power steering

You need more sleep, LOL

SS_Firehawk 02-07-2013 01:12 PM

I saw no difference. Voltages are same as stock as well.

Sh0velMan 02-07-2013 01:13 PM

Chris,

If the crank pulley is underdriven, everything on the belt is underdriven. They offer an alternator pulley to offset that difference for the alternator, but not for the PS pump. Hence my question.

XwChriswX 02-07-2013 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2152788)
And sh0velman asked about Power steering

You need more sleep, LOL

Hmm, coulda swore "Everything else on the belt..." Included the PS pump.. :ugh2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2152795)
I saw no difference. Voltages are same as stock as well.

:iagree:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2152800)
Chris,

If the crank pulley is underdriven, everything on the belt is underdriven. They offer an alternator pulley to offset that difference for the alternator, but not for the PS pump. Hence my question.

I understand that point, but if you underdrive one pulley, and overdrive another pulley, it is my understanding all Other pulleys operate as if there were no difference. It's a system because they're all connected to the same belt.

If you only installed the Underdriven crank pulley, and not the overdriven alternator pulley, yes the entire system would be underdriven. This is the point behind overdriving the alternator pulley.

DEpointfive0 02-07-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2152825)
Hmm, coulda swore "Everything else on the belt..." Included the PS pump.. :ugh2:

:iagree:

I understand that point, but if you underdrive one pulley, and overdrive another pulley, it is my understanding all Other pulleys operate as if there were no difference. It's a system because they're all connected to the same belt.

If you only installed the Underdriven crank pulley, and not the overdriven alternator pulley, yes the entire system would be underdriven. This is the point behind overdriving the alternator pulley.

It doesn't work that way. If the net change is nothing there would be no reason to go under driven
They overdrive the alternator so that your voltages don't drop

XwChriswX 02-07-2013 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2152837)
It doesn't work that way. If the net change is nothing there would be no reason to go under driven
They overdrive the alternator so that your voltages don't drop

Hmm, then my understanding of the belts/pulleys is all fuq'd up. :facepalm:

Sh0velMan 02-07-2013 01:39 PM

Under-driving the crank pulley (the one doing the work) decreases the belt speed. Each individual accessory would need its own undersized (over driven) pulley to compensate for that fact.

XwChriswX 02-07-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2152850)
Under-driving the crank pulley (the one doing the work) decreases the belt speed. Each individual accessory would need its own undersized (over driven) pulley to compensate for that fact.

In that case, I've had my pulleys on for going on almost 35k mi now, and have had no problems with PS or voltage or coolant flow/temps.

antfd3s 02-17-2013 09:43 AM

I received my kit last week. My main concern would be looking forward to the rev increase. As i know this motor climbs under my expectations a whole lot. Any little increase would make me feel somewhat relieved. Least faster then the slow setting on my wipers blades. Lol
Works getting done @ RT this weds. I'll let u guys know how I make out.

CTD-Germany 03-04-2013 12:16 PM

@antfd3s .. when you have ordered your set? did you order directly from NST? i ask, because we have ordered a couple of sets in end of november and still no delivery. on the phone is everytime the answering machine... no response on emails. does this company still exist?

tino

G35Robby 03-05-2013 04:03 PM

Been trying to contact NST as well with no response. I find this very unprofessional. How can I contact NST.
I see them active on facebook. I don't get it

SS_Firehawk 03-05-2013 04:47 PM

It took me 2 months to get mine. They sell them faster than they make them.

Chuck33079 03-05-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2197872)
They sell them faster than they make them.

That doesn't surprise me. I picked my clutch and flywheel from NST. It's not a huge operation. I can't imagine more than a few people work there.

G35Robby 03-06-2013 03:52 AM

The wait doesn't bother me.
It's the fact that they do not respond to emails or calls.
I hope they get back to me soon.

G35Robby 03-06-2013 06:39 PM

So NST got a hold of me and I apologies for putting their phone on blast.
But they changed my order and are making my pulleys as we speak. They also mentioned that they are making other members pulleys as well.
Thanks NST for getting back to me.

So don't worry guys. They are trying their best to get everyone orders.

CTD-Germany 03-22-2013 08:55 AM

after receiving a email on 4th of march that they will send the parts ASAP, we nothing received also 3 weeks later... i got a headache..

tino

diddy535 03-25-2013 08:15 PM

This anything to be concerned about?

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/26/ysamyved.jpg

SS_Firehawk 03-25-2013 08:19 PM

Nope, those are just timing markers

rhd 03-25-2013 08:20 PM

Diddy, I think those are marked on purpose, the marks are painted which indicates to me they were marked prior to painting, that is how I received them and they were packed very well.

DEpointfive0 03-25-2013 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G35Robby (Post 2199991)
So NST got a hold of me and I apologies for putting their phone on blast.
But they changed my order and are making my pulleys as we speak. They also mentioned that they are making other members pulleys as well.
Thanks NST for getting back to me.

So don't worry guys. They are trying their best to get everyone orders.

Yeah, 100% American made, quality and care to a tee, just gotta be patient as they're not Stillen, they're the little guy

diddy535 03-25-2013 08:25 PM

Ok I cool - just noticed them and was curious. If its just cosmetic I could care less can't see the damn thing anyway.

Getting this installed Friday! Can't wait and Ill post back!

G35Robby 03-26-2013 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diddy535 (Post 2233071)
Ok I cool - just noticed them and was curious. If its just cosmetic I could care less can't see the damn thing anyway.

Getting this installed Friday! Can't wait and Ill post back!

I'm also getting my pulleys installed Friday : )
I'll tell you guys what I think.
Mine will be installed on a 2008 G35 HR sedan, crank and alternator pulleys.

N0SL3N 04-24-2013 04:38 PM

For anyone who has installed this themselves, is there any way to remove the alternator pulley with it on the car? I was thinking of using a band clamp and a breaker bar.

Also, If I have to remove the alternator, then what is the easiest way to remove and reinstall the pulleys?

diddy535 04-24-2013 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N0SL3N (Post 2283303)
For anyone who has installed this themselves, is there any way to remove the alternator pulley with it on the car? I was thinking of using a band clamp and a breaker bar.

Also, If I have to remove the alternator, then what is the easiest way to remove and reinstall the pulleys?

I had mine installed but I do know the alternator did have to come out. Not sure about the second question maybe someone else can chime in. Good luck!

wstar 04-24-2013 07:05 PM

Taking the alternator out is the easiest way to do the alternator pulley, unless maybe you had frontal access (i.e. radiator gone). I never completely removed the alternator from the vehicle when I did mine: I got it loose from the car, but then hung it on the swaybar with the pulley facing downwards to impact wrench the pulley nut, swap the pulleys, and put it back in place.

N0SL3N 04-24-2013 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 2283566)
Taking the alternator out is the easiest way to do the alternator pulley, unless maybe you had frontal access (i.e. radiator gone). I never completely removed the alternator from the vehicle when I did mine: I got it loose from the car, but then hung it on the swaybar with the pulley facing downwards to impact wrench the pulley nut, swap the pulleys, and put it back in place.

That makes sense. When you used the impact wrench on the pulley nut do you have to secure the pulley or will it just come out?

wstar 04-25-2013 12:56 AM

I was trying to remember, and then I remembered that I probably posted about it in my journal, and found the post there from 2 years ago :) I don't think I used anything to secure the pulley, but here's the details I wrote down back then: http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...ml#post1069327

NonStopTuning 06-03-2013 05:38 PM

http://www.nonstoptuning.com/images/...ST13710KRG.jpg

Moving into the summer, we are considering a few Group Buy offers. Would the guys and girls here be interested in a limited edition 370Z group buy?!


MIKE @ NST

SS_Firehawk 06-03-2013 05:56 PM

I jumped on the 2011 group buy, if you ever make a lightened stock sized unit for supercharged applications, I'll throw money at you :)

diddy535 06-03-2013 08:04 PM

Bump for an awesome product

Infamous 06-03-2013 10:02 PM

In for a GB.

NonStopTuning 06-03-2013 11:06 PM

Thank you guys! Details coming soon.

Now Stay Tuned :)


MIKE @ NST

gbrettin 06-03-2013 11:20 PM

I'm interested in the GB.

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