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Z eliminator 07-16-2013 07:44 AM

Add a set of 4.08 gears to it /
it will shift really hard in MM .
and a lot quicker
i tuned mine on Cobb and it was really quick.

Elan 07-16-2013 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2406040)
I don't understand this... If you're at 45, 7th gear, and need to go to 2nd... It will take you MUCH longer to shift yourself, than to leave the car in D and mash the pedal

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think there are two different scenarios that are being combined into one. I'd say the first is OP wants to feel the power of his car/show that Mustang who is boss. In that case, downshift ahead of time and get on it. The second scenario would be OP wants to pass a car just drivin on the highway. In that case, yes I'd leave it in D and wait 2-3 seconds for the tranny to downshift. Just how I interpreted it. :tiphat:

DEpointfive0 07-16-2013 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Elan (Post 2406158)
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think there are two different scenarios that are being combined into one. I'd say the first is OP wants to feel the power of his car/show that Mustang who is boss. In that case, downshift ahead of time and get on it. The second scenario would be OP wants to pass a car just drivin on the highway. In that case, yes I'd leave it in D and wait 2-3 seconds for the tranny to downshift. Just how I interpreted it. :tiphat:

I agree 100% with what you posted above, 2 scenarios with the same end conclusion! :tiphat:

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except we all know that Mustang would RAPE us

gurneyeagle 07-16-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Elan (Post 2406158)
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think there are two different scenarios that are being combined into one. I'd say the first is OP wants to feel the power of his car/show that Mustang who is boss. In that case, downshift ahead of time and get on it. The second scenario would be OP wants to pass a car just drivin on the highway. In that case, yes I'd leave it in D and wait 2-3 seconds for the tranny to downshift. Just how I interpreted it. :tiphat:

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2406177)
I agree 100% with what you posted above, 2 scenarios with the same end conclusion! :tiphat:

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except we all know that Mustang would RAPE us

You are correct Andrew if driving in auto mode. If I were using my paddle shifters, I wouldn't be in 7th gear at 45 mph, more likely fourth or fifth.

I've actually banged the rev limit trying to accelerate quickly in a traffic situation.

critical 07-16-2013 09:20 AM

This is dumb. It's not lag. It's the engine down shifting gears and taking you to redline. If you drove in M, you can leave it in 7th to pass people or simply be in the right gear already.

DEpointfive0 07-16-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 2406216)
You are correct Andrew if driving in auto mode. If I were using my paddle shifters, I wouldn't be in 7th gear at 45 mph, more likely fourth or fifth.

I've actually banged the rev limit trying to accelerate quickly in a traffic situation.

How does everyone know my name? Lol
Or does EVERYONE forum stalk the way I do?


And THAT is the reason why I leave the car in D 90% of the time, and I wish the car had a sensor when flooring it to go, oh, the moron driver is in M, in 6th, moron driver needs to floor it, I'll downshift for him

NickTurnon 07-16-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2406243)
How does everyone know my name? Lol
Or does EVERYONE forum stalk the way I do?


And THAT is the reason why I leave the car in D 90% of the time, and I wish the car had a sensor when flooring it to go, oh, the moron driver is in M, in 6th, moron driver needs to floor it, I'll downshift for him

People know your name because DEpointfive0 spelled backwards is Andrew...

Also, weren't you and I just talking about this on another thread?

SOLUTION: Stuck behind someone, tap the left paddle and it'll automatically go into 5th or 6th depending on your speed. Then you get no lag and you can easily fly around someone and slingshot. Shake & Bake.

urbanate 07-16-2013 10:10 AM

I've just been using the m mode 100% of the time. No "lag"

Jordo! 07-16-2013 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2406040)
I don't understand this... If you're at 45, 7th gear, and need to go to 2nd... It will take you MUCH longer to shift yourself, than to leave the car in D and mash the pedal

I don't understand why someone would be in 7th gear at 45 mph. That's 5th (or maybe 6th) gear territory.

Anyway, the simple answer for the OP is: You can leave it in D and use the paddles to downshift quickly at need while staying in D.

The ECU allows this, and switches back from M to D after a few seconds.

That is the fastest way to drop a cog or two while remaining in D. Mashing the pedal is much slower.

Elan 07-16-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2406177)
I agree 100% with what you posted above, 2 scenarios with the same end conclusion! :tiphat:

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except we all know that Mustang would RAPE us

2005-2009 Mustang! :tup:

my2004Z 07-16-2013 01:21 PM

Lag Test:

Put the car into M mode.
Drive until you are at 3500 rpm in 2nd gear.
Press the accelerator pedal (the pedal on the right) until it stops moving
Shift at 6500 RPM (rightmost paddle shifter) without letting off accelerator pedal
Lag or no lag in this situation?

:driving: :tup: :ugh2: :eekdance:

gurneyeagle 07-16-2013 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by critical (Post 2406228)
This is dumb. It's not lag. It's the engine down shifting gears and taking you to redline. If you drove in M, you can leave it in 7th to pass people or simply be in the right gear already.

No it's not dumb; by definition it is lag. The question we are debating is the CAUSE of the lag.

The car redlines WHILE the transmission is hunting the gear; it is, in effect, in neutral.

Andrew - Being from Houston, I read your "intro" on Houston Z's FB page while you were in town. Sorry we didn't get a chance to meet.

KaienZ34 07-16-2013 01:35 PM

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gurneyeagle 07-16-2013 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my2004Z (Post 2406514)
Lag Test:

Put the car into M mode.
Drive until you are at 3500 rpm in 2nd gear.
Press the accelerator pedal (the pedal on the right) until it stops moving
Shift at 6500 RPM (rightmost paddle shifter) without letting off accelerator pedal
Lag or no lag in this situation?

:driving: :tup: :ugh2: :eekdance:

No lag in manual mode because you can control what gear you are in. In Auto mode, the tranny hiccups until it finds it's gear. I've never had this with any other auto trnasmission.

That's why I use the paddle shifters - problem solved. :tup:

gurneyeagle 07-16-2013 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my2004Z (Post 2406514)
Lag Test:

Put the car into M mode.
Drive until you are at 3500 rpm in 2nd gear.
Press the accelerator pedal (the pedal on the right) until it stops moving
Shift at 6500 RPM (rightmost paddle shifter) without letting off accelerator pedal
Lag or no lag in this situation?

:driving: :tup: :ugh2: :eekdance:

No lag in manual mode because you can control what gear you are in. In Auto mode, the tranny hiccups until it finds it's gear. I've never had this with any other auto transmission.

That's why I use the paddle shifters - problem solved. :tup:


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