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kbalza 07-10-2013 11:39 AM

indivisible throttle body
 
Has anyone done an indivisible throttle body build?

I don't really plan on racing my 370z so I thought this might be a cheaper way to get some more HP rather then doing a TT build.

Any thoughts?

Chuck33079 07-10-2013 11:49 AM

Individual tbs will end up costing far more than you think.

edub370 07-10-2013 12:00 PM

one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all :tup:

Individual* Tb's will be about twice as much on our cars since we dont have a cable throttle setup. thats why they old 350z de motors could do them on the cheap

kbalza 07-10-2013 12:06 PM

ahhhh

I was looking at ITB for a 350z, didn't think it would be to much different.

Thanks for the info guys.

Looks like ill keep saving for that TT. :icon17:

SPOHN 07-10-2013 06:51 PM

ITB $4K
Stand Alone ECU $2.5K
Tune and Other 1K

That's the rough of it.

Chuck33079 07-10-2013 07:01 PM

That's a lot of coin for unknown results.

37Z 07-10-2013 07:11 PM

ITB for 370Z
 
Check into other car manufacture's (BMW-M series cars) that have ITB naturally aspirated induction. Bola (BolaInduction) now makes electric ITB for Chevy & Ford engines. If going the mechanical ITB route; Hilborn ITB comes to mind which will entail deleting the ECU controlling the engine.

You will need to know the flow of the cylinder head in cfm in naturally aspirated induction. I am not sure what the flow rate for stock 370Z cylinder head.

Good luck!

Shamu 07-10-2013 11:02 PM

You will see greater returns with 4.08 rear end and tuning motor to 8000 rpm. Then spend time getting weight out of the car. Lightweight flywheel, aluminum hat brake rotors

But if you can't part with ITB here you go

http://www.jenvey.co.uk/home/throttl...-horns-cknn02c

SPOHN 07-11-2013 05:35 PM

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6b140a54.jpg

diddy535 07-11-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2400731)

Now what does that run?

SPOHN 07-11-2013 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diddy535 (Post 2400741)
Now what does that run?

$3600 for just this. But GTM will also be making a adapter to make it work with FI. But don't forget you will have to get a full stand alone ECU (roughly $2500+) and convert the throttle from drive by wire to cable. Super sweet.

diddy535 07-11-2013 05:56 PM

Yeah that's pretty crazy

Jordo! 07-11-2013 06:07 PM

I thought those were largely pointless without a tuned plenum to house them.

SPOHN 07-11-2013 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2400761)
I thought those were largely pointless without a tuned plenum to house them.

Not sure I understand? No plenum is used. You have to tune each ITB to each cylinder.

Red__Zed 07-11-2013 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2400749)
$3600 for just this. But GTM will also be making a adapter to make it work with FI. But don't forget you will have to get a full stand alone ECU (roughly $2500+) and convert the throttle from drive by wire to cable. Super sweet.

that and your car will probably need a fresh tune every 2-3 months as the weather changes:roflpuke2:

SPOHN 07-11-2013 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2400779)
that and your car will probably need a fresh tune every 2-3 months as the weather changes:roflpuke2:

It might. But stand alone ECU's can do a lot. Not sure

Red__Zed 07-11-2013 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2400786)
It might. But stand alone ECU's can do a lot. Not sure

a standalone offers adjustability, but you'll usually get OOR between seasons.

Aggressive ITB setups work in places where the weather stays the same (like socal), but they're a nightmare in places with seasons

Jordo! 07-12-2013 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2400771)
Not sure I understand? No plenum is used. You have to tune each ITB to each cylinder.

Meaning, I believe ITB's tend to work better (are easier to tune, yield more consistent idle, throttle response and power) housed within a well designed chamber rather than having each one completely open to the air.

That way you can pipe in cooler air (unless you have them sticking out of the hood), even out airflow, more easily meter airflow, more easily filter, and set up a more stable source of vacuum.

Like this Toda High Power ITB Surge Plenum Honda S2000 F20C AP1 S2K [17110-F20-000] - $1,370.00 : Real Street Performance Engine Parts, Pistons Rods Cams Valvetrain and More

or these OEM set ups at bottom

AutoSpeed - Multi Throttles

1slow370 08-07-2013 12:16 AM

more stable source of vacuum? the plenum would still be before the throttles? vacuum is after the trottlesand if you hooked the map up to the lines they have there while it would still be more susceptible to pulsation it is still a shared reference to all cylinders. i agree the plenum would be nicer for maf and cone filters, and a servo box combined with a box to simulate an inverted referance from the servo spoofed through the ETB wires would let you hook it up to the factory car and run it DBW, maybe they are working on this?


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