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ZMan8 10-07-2012 03:16 PM

I always use first from a dead stop. It was designed for it and saves 2nd from wear and tear.

SS_Firehawk 10-07-2012 03:28 PM

The faster I can get off the clutch per gear, the better. Clutches wear out and using 2nd gear from a stop is a good way to increase wear exponentially, and just like it was mentioned before, the synchros in 2nd weren't made for it. If your tranny does lose 2nd, and you take it in to Nissan, it's not going to get covered because it was damaged under a condition it was not built to withstand. I'm sure they will question why 1st gear looks brand new.

So to answer your question, I'm pretty sure 99.99% of us do, including the computer that controls the auto's tranny

dastaco 10-07-2012 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djrelic (Post 1948796)
Even the syncros in the tranny will not allow you to get into the 1st gear gate unless you are at a complete stop.

I've never had an issue getting into 1st while moving. If you seriously have that issue you need to get your transmission looked at.

asdfsammich 10-07-2012 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 1948988)
... I'm pretty sure 99.99% of us do, including the computer that controls the auto's tranny

^^^ this

My bad to OP.

I didn't actually think you we're being serious about using 1st only on uphill starts. I assumed you were just trying to start a thread about how 1st sucks and were being creative about it lols.



Tapatalk & such etc

w0rM 10-07-2012 05:59 PM

I use 1st gear and nothing else. 8000 rpms or bust!

Red__Zed 10-07-2012 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 1948875)
My Opinion is 1st was designed for a reason to get the car moving and continue the progress with the following gears.

Not using 1st is just adding more stress on a gear that was not designed to be used as the primary gear.

When and if you start having issues with 2nd?

Please don't come back to complain "My 2nd gear is giving me problems"


Good Luck....



More likely to see clutch wear than gear issues...

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 1948988)
The faster I can get off the clutch per gear, the better. Clutches wear out and using 2nd gear from a stop is a good way to increase wear exponentially, and just like it was mentioned before, the synchros in 2nd weren't made for it. If your tranny does lose 2nd, and you take it in to Nissan, it's not going to get covered because it was damaged under a condition it was not built to withstand. I'm sure they will question why 1st gear looks brand new.

So to answer your question, I'm pretty sure 99.99% of us do, including the computer that controls the auto's tranny

You are actually going to see LESS wear on your 2nd gear synchros starting in second...

Jsolo 10-07-2012 10:53 PM

2nd gear starts in the snow sometimes. However, with winter tires, I get minimal/no spin starting off in 1st. If the car is moving at least 5 mph, then 2nd gear, else 1st gear. First gear is a bit of a challenge to engage when moving, but with proper rev match, goes right in.

axmea? 10-08-2012 01:27 AM

OP - you just made my day. Keep doing what you have been doing and let us know how it is with your car every 90 days.

cheshirecat 10-08-2012 06:27 AM

Too much clutch feathering required to start in 2nd for the 370, imo. Sounds more like laziness to not use 1st to get the car moving.

Dsphoto 10-08-2012 06:32 AM

1st ALWAYS from a stop. If I am moving at 5-10 then 2nd. Although not having to shift into 2nd does reduce synchro wear in 2nd the extra wear on the clutch isn't worth it. 1st allows the clutch to be smoothly released with minimal slipping. Slipping clutch = extra heat and substantially more wear.

Generally I don't shift into first unless I am below 5mph and usually when I am stopped.

1st is there for a reason.

6spd 10-08-2012 06:34 AM

I don't know what all this rough 1st gear nonsense is. Perhaps learning how to drive the car better would help:stirthepot:

fuct 10-08-2012 08:57 AM

i always use first, and i can slip it in gear while im moving around 5-10 mph no prob.

kenny's 370z 10-08-2012 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 1949689)
I don't know what all this rough 1st gear nonsense is. Perhaps learning how to drive the car better would help:stirthepot:

:bowrofl::bowrofl:

m4a1mustang 10-08-2012 09:24 AM

:|

First gear starts were never an issue for me. 2nd required a little too much clutch on anything but a downhill slope IMO, so I'd always start in first on a flat surface. Never had an issue with roughness.

Also, arguing with mods is not recommended. ;)

m4a1mustang 10-08-2012 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1949152)

You are actually going to see LESS wear on your 2nd gear synchros starting in second...

^ This


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