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Fountainhead 12-18-2018 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by UNISYN (Post 3486800)
I don't think that's what is causing it. I don't know if this was a good elimination test, but I turned off my rev-matching feature temporarily and found it did not help. From what I have read in the past, the synchro for 1st and 2nd gear is weaker than the other synchros. However, I did have to have my CSC replaced last year at a whopping $750 (it would of cost even more at the dealership). However, my synchros were working fine then. I just hope these replacements last.

Hey Unisyn
I'm in your area, Lake Mary, who (if you don't mind me asking) did your CSC work?
Mine is fine but I'd like to know my options.

Thanks!

Spartan 1771 01-04-2019 11:28 AM

I know this is an old thread, but I figured I would give it a shot.
I'm the original owner of my 2009 Z, which has a manual transmission. The car only has 24,000 miles on it. It doesn't have the sports package, so no synchro-rev trans and I’ve been using Red Line fluid for the past 14,000 miles. I believe the 6th gear synchro is shot. When powering through the gears under WOT it will grind going from 5th to 6th. If I power from 1st through 5th but then press the clutch, wait a second and then put it in to 6th, it won't grind. So like I said, sounds like the synchro to me. Correct me if I’m wrong. It’s been doing this for about 18 months, but the car is my weekend / summer car, so I haven’t been too concerned with it. In the mean time I have been squirreling away transmission parts for the inevitable repair. I’ve accumulated just about everything I want:

Z1 Parts:
Clutch, unsprung hub, lightweight flywheel, CSC elimination kit, steel braided clutch line and transmission mount.

I also have a set of Mtec shifter springs and an RJM clutch pedal. The only thing left to get is the RJM clutch master cylinder and the synchros. The car already has a B&M short throw shifter installed.

I spoke with someone at MA Motorsports earlier today about this repair and the installation of the mods. According to them: “Most of the time we suggest just replacing the entire transmission to be honest. The work to repair the gearbox is very time consuming and you still have a mostly used gearbox at the end of the day. For only a little bit more we can sell you a whole new transmission from Nissan (in most cases).”

Although MA Motorsports came highly recommended, has great ratings and appears to be trustworthy, I still have to question this, especially since the car has so few miles on it. I’m not one to cheap out on my car, so if this is necessary, I will go through with it, but I don’t want to waste money. Unfortunately for me, the car is WAY out of the warranty period, so the bill is on me.

Although I have done all of the work on my Z thus far, transmission work is WAY out of my comfort zone, so that’s not an option for me.

Thoughts, suggestions, ideas?

Rusty 01-04-2019 12:26 PM

You would be better off with a new tranny. There was one guy rebuilding them with better parts. But haven't heard anything about him for about a year now. So I don't know if if he is still doing them or not. He was a bit pricey too.

Spooler 01-04-2019 12:38 PM

A 370z MA just build with FI 3.5 kit just snapped his input shaft at the drag strip. Guess someone has found the limit to the stock manual tranny. It was brand new also.

Rusty 01-04-2019 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3812166)
A 370z MA just build with FI 3.5 kit just snapped his input shaft at the drag strip. Guess someone has found the limit to the stock manual tranny. It was brand new also.

There's one guy I know. He snapped his input shaft about a year ago. Boosted with the BP kit. He did a full pull from idle in 6th. Said it broke about 5,000 rpm's. Think now he has a stage 2 FI kit.

Whjaxn17 01-04-2019 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3812163)
You would be better off with a new tranny. There was one guy rebuilding them with better parts. But haven't heard anything about him for about a year now. So I don't know if if he is still doing them or not. He was a bit pricey too.

Level 10?

Rusty 01-04-2019 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3812169)
Level 10?

Don't they just do auto's? Never heard of them doing manuals.

Whjaxn17 01-04-2019 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3812177)
Don't they just do auto's? Never heard of them doing manuals.

I have no idea. I just had seen the name floating around and was asking if that was the shop you meant that you hadn't seen/heard about in a while.

Rusty 01-04-2019 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3812185)
I have no idea. I just had seen the name floating around and was asking if that was the shop you meant that you hadn't seen/heard about in a while.

It was a member on here that was doing them.

vman12 01-05-2019 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan 1771 (Post 3812146)
I know this is an old thread, but I figured I would give it a shot.
I'm the original owner of my 2009 Z, which has a manual transmission. The car only has 24,000 miles on it. It doesn't have the sports package, so no synchro-rev trans and I’ve been using Red Line fluid for the past 14,000 miles. I believe the 6th gear synchro is shot. When powering through the gears under WOT it will grind going from 5th to 6th. If I power from 1st through 5th but then press the clutch, wait a second and then put it in to 6th, it won't grind. So like I said, sounds like the synchro to me. Correct me if I’m wrong. It’s been doing this for about 18 months, but the car is my weekend / summer car, so I haven’t been too concerned with it. In the mean time I have been squirreling away transmission parts for the inevitable repair. I’ve accumulated just about everything I want:

Z1 Parts:
Clutch, unsprung hub, lightweight flywheel, CSC elimination kit, steel braided clutch line and transmission mount.

I also have a set of Mtec shifter springs and an RJM clutch pedal. The only thing left to get is the RJM clutch master cylinder and the synchros. The car already has a B&M short throw shifter installed.

I spoke with someone at MA Motorsports earlier today about this repair and the installation of the mods. According to them: “Most of the time we suggest just replacing the entire transmission to be honest. The work to repair the gearbox is very time consuming and you still have a mostly used gearbox at the end of the day. For only a little bit more we can sell you a whole new transmission from Nissan (in most cases).”

Although MA Motorsports came highly recommended, has great ratings and appears to be trustworthy, I still have to question this, especially since the car has so few miles on it. I’m not one to cheap out on my car, so if this is necessary, I will go through with it, but I don’t want to waste money. Unfortunately for me, the car is WAY out of the warranty period, so the bill is on me.

Although I have done all of the work on my Z thus far, transmission work is WAY out of my comfort zone, so that’s not an option for me.

Thoughts, suggestions, ideas?

I have a 2014 370z manual with 30k miles. I had my transmission replaced this summer. I had the car for about 3 months and one morning i started noticing that it's getting really hard shifting into 6th gear (no noise just hard to go in). I made an appointment with the dealer. That afternoon driving to the dealer on the freeway i couldn't get the car into 6th at all. It was like hitting a wall, no matter how i tried to push it in. Tried going from 5th to 6th, from 4th to 6th, just wouldn't go in. Dropped it off at the dealer. Dealer test drove on the streets, came back said it was fine. I went with the technician and wanted him to show me how it was fine. In the parking lot we just sat with car off and changed gears. All 5 gears went in easy, you could almost use your pinky finger to push the the stick into gear. But 6th wouldn't go in. So he just grabbed it and with all power shoved it in. I told him no way that's how it's supposed to work (this is a japanese car not an old muscle car). It was fine before. Long story short i convinced him to get it replaced under powertrain warranty. They put a new one in, although i gotta say it still feels just a little tough at times going in to 6th (wonder if they put in a refurbished tranny, not a new one). Hey, but at least it works now.

Spartan 1771 01-05-2019 12:47 PM

Having to pay out of pocket for this is bad enough, but not knowing if it will happen again with the replacement is even worse. Are there any aftermarket transfer case parts that will solve these issues for the long term? I dont want to be back in the same situation in a year or two.

Rusty 01-05-2019 07:36 PM

Here's a thread you guys should read. :tup:

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...nsmission.html

Spartan 1771 01-05-2019 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3812572)
Here's a thread you guys should read. :tup:



http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...nsmission.html

Thanks Rusty!

Spartan 1771 01-10-2019 06:27 PM

I got a quote from MA Motorsports and I honestly can't believe what I'm looking at.
The quote is for the following:
1. New Z34 transmission
2. Install the following customer supplied parts: clutch, flywheel, csc elim kit, trans mount, clutch pedal and clutch master cylinder.

Total with tax: $3,412.78

Does this seem right? I was really expecting something in the range of $6,000 to $10,000

I got the quote via email and plan to call them tomorrow to talk more about it.

Rusty 01-10-2019 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan 1771 (Post 3814379)
I got a quote from MA Motorsports and I honestly can't believe what I'm looking at.
The quote is for the following:
1. New Z34 transmission
2. Install the following customer supplied parts: clutch, flywheel, csc elim kit, trans mount, clutch pedal and clutch master cylinder.

Total with tax: $3,412.78

Does this seem right? I was really expecting something in the range of $6,000 to $10,000

I got the quote via email and plan to call them tomorrow to talk more about it.

How much is the new tranny?


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