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spearfish25 03-22-2011 04:25 PM

Oil Pressure Gauge Install
 
I've deciding I'm installing an oil pressure gauge. I've already found the fittings to keep the OEM oil pressure sensor and be able to add the aftermarket sensor. For those who are interested, these should do the trick and only cost $5 ($15 with shipping):
2113-02-02-02 | MALE BSPT x FEMALE BSPP x FEMALE BSPP
3036-02-02 | MALE BSPT x FEMALE NPT

What kind of oil gauge do you recommend? I like the AEM digital gauge with LEDs around the outside but it's damn pricey. Auto Meter makes many that are less expensive, but I don't want a crappy unreliable gauge. Please post your experiences with different brands.

A 0-100psi gauge should be adequate, right? I can't imagine I'd need the 150psi gauge.

DIY to follow once I get all the parts.

jpit 03-22-2011 05:42 PM

When you start your car, the oil pressure can be as high as 110psi. I installed an oil gauge last year and that was one thing that surprised me.

spearfish25 03-22-2011 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpit (Post 1003218)
When you start your car, the oil pressure can be as high as 110psi. I installed an oil gauge last year and that was one thing that surprised me.

Hmmm, so I should just go with the 150psi gauge. Sounds like that's what you have?

theDreamer 03-22-2011 05:47 PM

You will want the 150, I see the same when I start my car and have seen over than when pushing it.

Red__Zed 03-22-2011 05:59 PM

Subscribing for info.

tommyguns 03-22-2011 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1003251)
Subscribing for info.

Same here!

Jordo! 03-22-2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1002993)
I've already found the fittings to keep the OEM oil pressure sensor and be able to add the aftermarket sensor.

The ECU monitors oil pressure?

ChrisSlicks 03-22-2011 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1003382)
The ECU monitors oil pressure?

It just an on/off sensor. It fires when the pressure drops below a internally set level, probably a really low number though.

ChrisSlicks 03-22-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1002993)
I've deciding I'm installing an oil pressure gauge. I've already found the fittings to keep the OEM oil pressure sensor and be able to add the aftermarket sensor. For those who are interested, these should do the trick and only cost $5 ($15 with shipping):
2113-02-02-02 | MALE BSPT x FEMALE BSPP x FEMALE BSPP
3036-02-02 | MALE BSPT x FEMALE NPT

What kind of oil gauge do you recommend? I like the AEM digital gauge with LEDs around the outside but it's damn pricey. Auto Meter makes many that are less expensive, but I don't want a crappy unreliable gauge. Please post your experiences with different brands.

A 0-100psi gauge should be adequate, right? I can't imagine I'd need the 150psi gauge.

DIY to follow once I get all the parts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1003220)
You will want the 150, I see the same when I start my car and have seen over than when pushing it.

So was it decided that the original fitting was BSP and not NPT? I remember a lot of back and forth a while back.

spearfish25 03-22-2011 07:53 PM

It's BSP from what I can find. That's why Nissport sells their $50 adapter which has a BSPT male, NPT female and BSP female port.

I've ordered all the parts, so I'll post more when I install it all.

ChrisSlicks 03-22-2011 07:59 PM

Just seems weird to me that an entirely metric car would have a imperial threaded port for something as simple as an oil pressure switch. The threads are so close in size and shape it can be difficult to tell them apart, 9.7mm vs 10.0mm and a slightly different curve on the thread taper. As I understand it they are so close that you actually can get the parts to fit together, it just isn't going to make a perfect seal.

I was considering a remote sender, something like this.
German Supply - Parts for VolkswagenŽ Cars - VDO Oil Pressure Sender (Dual Pole) 150 PSI

Jordo! 03-22-2011 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1003400)
It just an on/off sensor. It fires when the pressure drops below a internally set level, probably a really low number though.

Ohhhhh -- that must the the infamous "oil" dummy light sender.

Actually, now that we're talking about it, I have no idea what a good oil pressure is in general, let alone for this motor.

Any thoughts?

SPOHN 03-22-2011 08:16 PM

I want a oil pressure gauge myself. Along with another to stuff in the cubby hole. I've owned several Defi gauges. They work great. But pricey. And that's where I'm stumped for right now. After paying for install on two gauges and the gauges thereself. It would cost nearly a grand plus. I just have other things going on right now.

jpit 03-22-2011 09:29 PM

This is what you need:

NISMO Oil Tee Adapter for Oil Pressure Gauge :: Nissan Parts, NISMO and Nissan Accessories - Courtesyparts.com

spearfish25 03-22-2011 09:44 PM

^It's out of stock. Just order the parts I listed in the OP. Of course it doesn't help at all as it lists the threads as PT which means nothing.

DOOMMONKEY777 03-22-2011 10:04 PM

guys just go in to your neighborhood hardware supply store and buy 1/8th tee and an adapter male/male

spearfish25 03-22-2011 10:16 PM

I highly doubt any local hardware stores have BSP fittings and definitely not NPT female to BSP male. Just everyone sit tight and I'll be the guinea pig on this. I'll tell you exactly what threads worked once I get the parts and my hands dirty.

Jordo! 03-22-2011 10:25 PM

So is about 10 psi per 1000 RPM normal?

Let us know what kinds of readings you see for hot and cold running conditions on the Z.

DIGItonium 03-22-2011 11:13 PM

These are the gauges I have that will be installed this summer... don't know much about it. It should go for under $100. If you can buy direct, $35.

http://www.the370z.com/members/digit...l-pressure.jpg

spearfish25 03-23-2011 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1003730)
So is about 10 psi per 1000 RPM normal?

Let us know what kinds of readings you see for hot and cold running conditions on the Z.

I'll definitely post readings when I get it installed. The service manual lists proper oil pressure at 15psi at idle and 40psi at 2k rpm.

I decided on the AEM Analog 0-150psi oil pressure gauge. I saw a youtube video of that digital gauge and the values jump around so much it's maddening. Both the digital number in the middle and the LED on the outside move all over the place. This would have driven me bananas....so analog it is. The AEM gauges have adjustable LED colors so you can match the interior orange too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYb8jClJMDI

NewYorkJon34 03-23-2011 08:53 AM

Boosting the Car Digi?

Liquid_G 03-23-2011 10:29 AM

good stuff Alex, so is it safe to say that most oil pressure gauges sensors use the same thread? I have my oil pressure gauge for my Camp2 that I need to install still.

spearfish25 03-23-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Liquid_G (Post 1004395)
good stuff Alex, so is it safe to say that most oil pressure gauges sensors use the same thread? I have my oil pressure gauge for my Camp2 that I need to install still.

It sounds like US-made aftermarket gauges all use NPT fittings while most European and Japanese cars favor BSP threads for their sensors. My best guess is the HKS gauge is NPT and will require the same setup I listed above. To be safe and knock this project out in one attempt, I ordered all the fittings in BSP and NPT versions. So I'm covered regardless of what I find when I disconnect the factory sensor. It only cost me $10 instead of $5 to get the fittings in both thread types.

While I wait on the parts to arrive, I need to decide on which 12V switched source to splice the gauge power into. I'll check and post in the AV section, but ideas are welcome. If I install the gauge on the side of the steering column, I think I'll run the power under the knee bolster and tap into the 12V cigarette lighter in the armrest. If I decide to mount the gauge up on the dash (behind and between the 3-pod gauges), I'll tap into the other 12V lighter in the passenger footwell. Both are ignition switched I believe.

Liquid_G 03-23-2011 11:11 AM

Why not just do the add a fuse thing from something on the fuse panel?

spearfish25 03-23-2011 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid_G (Post 1004565)
Why not just do the add a fuse thing from something on the fuse panel?

Because I forgot that was an option! Thanks Gene.


Does anyone know where you can find an add-a-fuse ATM-Low Profile version? Amazon only has ATM and ATO.

***It looks like the ATM version will fit in the ATM low profile slot, so it's still doable. These low profile fuses are stupid.

spearfish25 04-01-2011 04:23 PM

Install Complete!

Check the DIY section: http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...ml#post1027089

ChrisSlicks 04-01-2011 04:24 PM

Cool, look forward to checking out.


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