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crash1369 03-08-2011 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 975185)
LS2? really thats sooo G-word. he said titanium rods and hew wants POWER on thing i can think of is LS7 or Viper V10. Also guy you need to ask your uncle why he didn't tell you about superchargers when you asked him N/a or FI. The centrifugals have come a long way from what they were a few years ago, and the twin-screw (look up kenne bell or whipple or vortech vts series) is still the screaming torque king. That will actually make the abysmally small lowend and midrange torque numbers look better while pulling up to redline and you won't be able to tell it apart from a BIG v8.

:iagree: I have a sneaking suspicion this thread isn't going anywhere anyway, if you really have the money to take on a project like this and are actually going to do it then I look forward to the results. But obviously this is the sort of thing that would only be done just so you can say you did it as it really won't improve the cars performance, not overall at least. I agree with getting as much power out of the engine as you can and the better it responds the better any other modifications should work, but your uncles knowledge sounds a bit suspect, or at least biased. I think a twin screw super charger would get you where you want to be, much more easily, and for much less money. There are no kits available though but if your really working with kind of budget mentioned then I'm sure you can make one work though and it will increase power across the board. Of course the motor build and the super charger would be the best thing :driving::happydance:

Anyway you said you don't want to sacrifice drivability, the fact is this will suffer regardless of how you choose to make power. If you get a 50% increase in power, it's still 50% whether that's from forced induction or naturally aspirated. The car will want to leap feet at a time now rather then just rolling to a start like it did, and the fact of the matter is no matter what you do it will still be a 370Z. You can make anything faster, but overcoming the chassis design and it's short commings are entirly different. There is a reason a Porsche with very similar specifications still cost almost twice as much. (besides the name on the back)
The most important thing to consider is what do you want this car for? Are you going to race it, what's the point if your not? A highly modified car will be difficult to get qualified and it will most certainly require a roll cage, although that will also help you quite a bit with the chassis problems you are sure to encounter. If it's just going to be for the street that won't matter as much, it will be fun at first but like so many people before you you'll likely get tired of it in short order. A car at that level will require constant attention to all the noises it will make, all the things there are to fail now, possibly even to just keep it on the road.

Overall you will spend much less money just buying something else ans may be more satisfied with it, but it will be one bad *** Z if you decide to do it. :tup: (once you work out all the bugs)

daisuke149 03-08-2011 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mjthind (Post 974864)
Well I want to stay away form FI because I NEED drivability, reliability, hate turbo lag and want a high and fast revving engine. My uncle told the pro and cons of a FI and NA engine,then he said it my choice I chose NA. I was told by my friend that if I do all the stuff that I want to to do my engine (forgot to list light-weight flywheel) my engine will rev up and come down quicker and I would prefer natural power than FI any day and all any. Oh ya I want my life so f*ck FI.

there really arent any driveability or reliability issues with the FI's on our cars..

some have been driving around for a year + at 450whp or more without issues.

but to each their own. gl with the build. will be interestin to see.

efuseakay 03-08-2011 09:33 AM

GTM S/C. No drivability issues.

EXTREME 03-08-2011 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 974854)
for 21 grand, you could go twin turbo, body kit, and a hot hooker. :tup:

:icon17:

lol. i like the last part of it

Osiris 03-08-2011 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 974912)
You could have just bought a GT-R

+1

Mjthind 03-08-2011 05:49 PM

don't want go corvette engine I can't stand those things. I want to keep the nissan block and I not a fan of turbocharging unless you take to my bros supra I would turbocharge that thing all day man. I still have to a lot more matha nd bug finding That why I ORDERED my Nismo Z and didn't just go to a dealer and buy it. Keep the suggestion coming.

Cmike2780 03-08-2011 10:16 PM

A supercharged engine can last just as long as a high strung custom engine. Racing engines for example, are usually re-built after a few races, if not after every race. If you want bullet proof reliability, buy a Camry and call it a day. FI is the best bang for the buck. Even if you blow the stock engine, a new one won't cost you $21k. Check out the GTM or Stillen supercharger if you don't want to go with turbo's. No "lag"

daisuke149 03-09-2011 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mjthind (Post 976214)
don't want go corvette engine I can't stand those things. I want to keep the nissan block and I not a fan of turbocharging unless you take to my bros supra I would turbocharge that thing all day man. I still have to a lot more matha nd bug finding That why I ORDERED my Nismo Z and didn't just go to a dealer and buy it. Keep the suggestion coming.

dont like turbo lag. but you'd supercharge that thing..

I just dont think you really understand how it all works. esp in our cars.

apart from the stuff you posted, theres nitrous and/or otherwise maybe jet turbine on the roof. (always wanted to try that. mythbusters style)

1slow370 03-10-2011 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 977433)
dont like turbo lag. but you'd supercharge that thing..

I just dont think you really understand how it all works. esp in our cars.

apart from the stuff you posted, theres nitrous and/or otherwise maybe jet turbine on the roof. (always wanted to try that. mythbusters style)

Nah gotta go Rolls Royce Gnome turbo shaft through the helicopter reducer box to the rear axle with a drive rotor brake and 11" titanium exhaust out the roof, back when i had a 300zx this was my plan before i bought the 370z. up to 1200hp, and 900ft lbs at 0rpm, straight up monster. can be purchased military surplus for 16,000 fully rebuilt, and they run for 2,300 hours before needing a service. which would be over 2 years averaging 3 hours a day. Oh and that is running at full throttle all the time. you could pull up to an s2000 and say your motor spins 10 time faster than his(if he could hear you) and you could run it on diesel, kerosene, jet fuel, waste oil, vegetable oil, melted wax or plastic, or anything else thats heavy and burns. Plus who doesn't love a 3:1 compression ratio?

Edit: drag car only lol

bboypuertoroc 03-10-2011 03:51 AM

This kid sounds like he's 12.

1slow370 03-10-2011 04:37 AM

who me or the guy who wants to blow 21 grand for 80hp?

Mjthind 03-10-2011 08:39 PM

well i am looking for suggestions not haters. I am 18 so that = not 12.

Cmike2780 03-10-2011 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mjthind (Post 980488)
well i am looking for suggestions not haters. I am 18 so that = not 12.

Your not helping your cause:p

chops 03-10-2011 10:48 PM

:koolaidwall:

what is going on here.. :roflpuke2:

Brazilbro 03-10-2011 11:00 PM

you could drop in a cosworth VQ3.5 built motor. That is about as good as it gets in the N/A with a vq. I hear its an easy swap. 400 WHP


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