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JoeyD 04-02-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 51011)
What was the ambient temperature that day?

I have my first Auto-X in this car on Saturday, ambient is expected to be around 60F. We run a 130-140 second course typically.

-Chris

It was 70F & Rainy on Saturday
and about 74F on Sunday. Honestly I think it could of been -20F and it would still heat up like that. The temps climbed really fast.

tbonesteak 04-02-2009 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyD (Post 51076)
It was 70F & Rainy on Saturday
and about 74F on Sunday. Honestly I think it could of been -20F and it would still heat up like that. The temps climbed really fast.


absolutely unbelievable. So we know that the problem is in 100% of the production cars. I know if we create enough awareness Nissan will have to fix the problem....but since we only represent a spec of dust from the entire 370 population, its difficult..

Johnnyquad17 04-02-2009 03:17 PM

This is similiar to Nissan GTR issues/lies. The only time that the GTR can beat a 911 Turbo is when they use the launch control feature. Which has lead to many transmission issues and Nissan has it in the manual/warranty if you use this feature it voids the warranty. Go to the GTR websites if you do not beleave me. That is why I am leary of buying a Nissan even though I love the 370. I don't trust them.

Musashi 04-02-2009 03:58 PM

I think it's important that we stay focused on the oil temp issues here. I don't want to get off subject.

tbonesteak 04-02-2009 04:26 PM

Only thing we can do at this point is create as much awareness as possible. Nissan won't do squat until they know that it's affecting their sales.

Gamedog 04-02-2009 04:29 PM

I own a G37 and my car went into limp mode while doing a canyon run out here on Palomar at midnite. Lots of people have had oil heating issues with the G37 so far, and I witnessed it firsthand. I was hoping Nissan would've addressed this for you 370Z guys since they've known about the problem.

But yeah, Limp mode FTL. Redline drops to about 6,200, throttle is reduced to about 40% no matter if you have it floored.

Since then, I've changed to Eneos 5W30 and haven't had that problem come up since, and I've done the same canyon run twice now.

tbonesteak 04-02-2009 04:33 PM

^^do you have a temp gauge? maybe one of the z guys should try that oil and see what the temps go up to...

Gamedog 04-02-2009 04:37 PM

No no temp gauge bro. I'm doin another canyon run this weekend and I'll letchu guys know the outcome.

But yeah when your car goes into limp mode, its a total "WTF?" moment.

antennahead 04-02-2009 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tbonesteak (Post 50801)
permanent? so you think an aftermarket oil cooler that's never been extensively tested nor warranted by Nissan NA that you installed yourself will be permanent? Dude...i've owned many high performance cars in the past both highly modded and stock which i've tracked extensively and i can tell you that the oil cooler you will install will definitely not be permanent. Neither is the one Nissan slaps on but atleast it'll be covered by warranty.

What? Do you think I would install some bull**** brand oil cooler on the car? I am referring to a Nismo or Stillen type product that will come out after testing to reduce temps. Permanent refers to "an oil cooler fixing the hi temp issue", not to the cooler itself being permanent...... then again, install a quality product that has been tested and it should last for many years.

John

JoeyD 04-02-2009 08:39 PM

what's permanent?

antennahead 04-02-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyD (Post 51243)
what's permanent?

I think he misunderstood my original post. What I meant was, compared to the oil consumption issue the '06s faced, this issue can be fixed, versus an ongoing issue, like the OC issue. Probably semantics over the definition and use of the work "permanent", no big deal.

John

tbonesteak 04-02-2009 09:09 PM

Thanks for clearing it up.

antennahead 04-02-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tbonesteak (Post 51268)
Thanks for clearing it up.

You're very welcome.

John

Musashi 04-03-2009 08:28 AM

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semtex 04-03-2009 09:38 AM

^lol I like how they follow it up with "Regardless. . . " It's almost like they're saying 'Yeah we discovered this really serious issue. So anyway, we really liked the paint job.'

ChrisSlicks 04-03-2009 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 51442)
^lol I like how they follow it up with "Regardless. . . " It's almost like they're saying 'Yeah we discovered this really serious issue. So anyway, we really liked the paint job.'

Maybe they're just relying on the fact that 90% of people are just going to cruise around town with them and never run into this issue. They at least should have made it a factory option or part of the sport package. Seems counter-intuitive that they install performance brakes and a LSD yet don't expect you to actually drive it hard.

Musashi 04-03-2009 01:54 PM

Conclusion
 
It's been over a week, Nissan has no answers, they are clueless to even if they have the parts anywhere, even with me willing to pay they still can't come up with it. As if the Nismo 370Z thats already out in Japan doesn't have one!? Right....

I can't let some stupid $400 dollar part eat me up and the more I talk to Nissan the more I dislike them. So, I called up Stillen, ordered their Oil Cooler, Exhaust, Gen 3 Intake. It will be better quality then factory anyway....
I'm looking forward to getting my parts on and enjoying the hell out of my Z...
:driving:

I appreciate the support from everyone.

Nikon FM 04-03-2009 02:04 PM

I checked with my dealership abut the oil cooler issue and they were not aware of one (from Nissan) being available yet. I was told that if I bought a quality after market oil cooler and had them install it they would consider it like "original equipment".

I bet Nissan will offer one soon (< 6 months) to the dealerships (IMO)

JoeyD 04-03-2009 02:40 PM

I mentioned this to the service manager at the dealership I bought mine from yesterday. He suggested trying a different coolant ratio. Although, he couldn't offer any advice about what ratio would be more effective.

ChrisSlicks 04-03-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyD (Post 51579)
I mentioned this to the service manager at the dealership I bought mine from yesterday. He suggested trying a different coolant ratio. Although, he couldn't offer any advice about what ratio would be more effective.

Distilled water is the best possible heat conductor (liquid). Just enough anti-corrosive anti-freeze needs to be added (Ethylene Glycol). In a relatively warm climate like So Cal or TX I would go for 80% pure distilled water, 20% Glycol. The standard up here in the cold parts is 50/50.

alan93rsa 04-03-2009 05:18 PM

Check out what is available for an Ohio license plate. I just keyed it in and checked the Ohio BMV web site for availability :tup:

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Musashi 04-03-2009 05:27 PM

I'll send you $50 via pay pal to get it.

tbonesteak 04-03-2009 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by alan93rsa (Post 51669)
check out what is available for an ohio license plate. I just keyed it in and checked the ohio bmv web site for availability :tup:

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semtex 04-03-2009 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 51588)
Distilled water is the best possible heat conductor (liquid). Just enough anti-corrosive anti-freeze needs to be added (Ethylene Glycol). In a relatively warm climate like So Cal or TX I would go for 80% pure distilled water, 20% Glycol. The standard up here in the cold parts is 50/50.

Adding in a bottle of Water Wetter might help too. It's one of the first things I do to every car I buy.

alan93rsa 04-03-2009 10:21 PM

The radiator is a good topic. Since we are out of the sub zero range here in Ohio, not the freezing range, I plan to dump 1/2 the coolant and fill with water and a bottle of water wetter. Every little bit helps.

pseudodriver 04-04-2009 01:32 AM

A warranty claim on my 370 - a big one ! - was recently denied because nissan found a picture online with an aftermarket oil cooler being installed (traced to me through license plate also on pic - doh!)... they may have had further reason to deny the claim, i don't have all the details, but figured i should alert you guys that the aftermarket oil cooler was part of the reason for denial, if not the only reason... please don't ask me to explain this further - i'm in the middle of a messy dispute... but just wanted to share, so folks get a sense of the risk... several dealers i've spoken with have also confirmed that nissan has a history of denying warranty claims due to aftermarket oil coolers... We need some official input from Nissan, but if you want to be conservative, i'd advise waiting for the nismo oil cooler, which i've been told will most definitely not have any negative impact on warranty...

Re a nismo oil cooler, i might as well spill the beans on this since nissan hasn't treated me well at all lately!... i talked with a rep at nismo a month ago... he said they are accelerating commercialization, directly resulting from the user feedback here ! nissan usa is paying attention to this board... and i was told that several threads from this board circulated 'nissan headquarters'

Finally, re oil pressure, highly recommend adding an oil pressure gauge if you're going to the trouble of adding an oil cooler... there are gauges that should fit in place of your clock - hopefully DDM or someone will make a kit for us !

yes, this is a cowardly pseudnym post... please just don't ask ! :cool:

The Weapon 04-04-2009 02:53 AM

Sent my Letter. I live in Az. I haven't even reved my car past 4k yet. I only have 500 miles on it and i am hitting 250 degrees.

It's pretty insane that i can go from 180 to 250 within 5 minutes. I can only imagine how much quicker it will go up once i start actually driving the car up a mountain.

azn370z 04-04-2009 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pseudodriver (Post 51779)
A warranty claim on my 370 - a big one ! - was recently denied because nissan found a picture online with an aftermarket oil cooler being installed (traced to me through license plate also on pic - doh!)... :

I think i will wait until nissan adds an oil cooler for the 370z before i buy one. Hopefully nissan adds the oil cooler next year. I'm certainly not going to add an aftermarket oil cooler and be denied warranty if something goes wrong.:mad:

alan93rsa 04-04-2009 06:51 AM

My 335i ran at 240F all day long.

Musashi 04-04-2009 07:22 AM

Oil begins to break down at about 260 degrees especially when it's a sustained.

Does Nissan want to be replacing engines under warranty for people or let them slide on oil coolers which they never made available to us.

ZAtLeast 04-04-2009 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by azn370z (Post 51799)
I think i will wait until nissan adds an oil cooler for the 370z before i buy one. Hopefully nissan adds the oil cooler next year. I'm certainly not going to add an aftermarket oil cooler and be denied warranty if something goes wrong.:mad:

+1. A 370Z will be back on top of my potential car list once an oil cooler is added from factory.

tbonesteak 04-04-2009 09:21 AM

^^ me too. no buy til prob is fixed.

McSqueeb 04-04-2009 09:32 AM

It is horribly unfortunate that the 370Z has these issues already. I had saved up to buy one and finally found myself in a position to pick one up and this is simply a deal breaker for me. I'm thinking I may have to wait for a future model or for a recall (which is necessary in my opinion since I see this being a problem for daily driving in the near future).

chicagozer 04-04-2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by McSqueeb (Post 51837)
It is horribly unfortunate that the 370Z has these issues already...

"Horribly unfortunate" ?

Were you born yesterday? First year new models have problems. No sympathy for early adopters who are indignant about every perceived slight.

McSqueeb 04-04-2009 11:49 AM

I am well aware of that lol. I was not expecting it to not have problems at all. I was simply saying I would probably rather be patient and see if anything is done about it before I decide to make the purchase. I definitely still want to get a 370. That was a pretty radical assumption man, I don't know what I said that made you feel like I was completely unaware that first year new models never have any problems... I said nothing of the sort.

tbonesteak 04-04-2009 11:58 AM

^^ i agree w mcsqueeb. I truly hope nissan figures out that this is in some way or another affecting their sales. I talk about it with my coworkers everyday about the issue and those guys are enthusiasts who have other inthusiast friends that talk to them about the oil heating issue as well. A handful of people i know won't look at this car anymore because of THIS VERY THREAD.

GoleX 04-04-2009 12:25 PM

This will never effect you during daily driving, only time you have to worry is when tracking.

chubbs 04-04-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chicagozer (Post 51848)
"Horribly unfortunate" ?

Were you born yesterday? First year new models have problems. No sympathy for early adopters who are indignant about every perceived slight.

Don't cuss the early adopters - they're the ones whose moaning makes sure the cars are put right for people like you & me!

I say Early Adopters RTMFW.

SoCal 370Z 04-04-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 51894)
I say Early Adopters RTMFW.

Yes, we do...as a matter of fact! :excited:

AK370Z 04-04-2009 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Musashi (Post 49904)
I was wondering if the Japan cars came with oil coolers???

NO, they do not. :(


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