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supercwf 11-17-2010 12:15 AM

Max hp?
 
Hey party people!

What do you think is the max hp we can get out of our z's without going down the path of forced injection.






Thanks!
Chris

RCZ 11-17-2010 06:33 AM

it is 100% directly correlated with how much money you have.

2theextreme 11-17-2010 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 812470)
it is 100% directly correlated with how much money you have.

:bowrofl: Sadly, this is very true.

Full bolt-ons and a Cobb AccessPort here and I managed 318 whp, if that helps.

supercwf 11-17-2010 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 812470)
it is 100% directly correlated with how much money you have.

Thanks,

I checked out your journal your cars looking hot!

Solus 11-17-2010 10:58 AM

I have a question about this that has been boggling me but it could just be because I am idiot. I understand that people like f.i. (I myself am a big fan and have had several f.i. cars) but I haven't heard of anyone doing anything crazy to make an n/a build. Is there something preventing us from being able to say raise the compression etc for more power?

ChrisSlicks 11-17-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Solus (Post 812780)
I have a question about this that has been boggling me but it could just be because I am idiot. I understand that people like f.i. (I myself am a big fan and have had several f.i. cars) but I haven't heard of anyone doing anything crazy to make an n/a build. Is there something preventing us from being able to say raise the compression etc for more power?

Cost. The cost of building a motor is going to be far greater than any Stage 1 FI kit and you aren't going to make as much power. That said, there are stroker kits available for the VQ37 but it requires significant engine block machining.

GZ3 11-17-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 812470)
it is 100% directly correlated with how much money you have.

:icon18::tup::tup:

Solus 11-17-2010 01:57 PM

Well me for example I would love to get to about 375-400 rwhp with it being n/a as much as I enjoy fi I also have a thing for all motor vehicles. I figure with bolt-ons and a tune people are getting 315-325. Is it that big of a stretch of the imagination to get to 400? I understand it would cost a good bit but in all reality how much would it cost to pull an extra 50-75 hp from the engine?

GZ3 11-17-2010 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Solus (Post 813056)
Well me for example I would love to get to about 375-400 rwhp with it being n/a as much as I enjoy fi I also have a thing for all motor vehicles. I figure with bolt-ons and a tune people are getting 315-325. Is it that big of a stretch of the imagination to get to 400? I understand it would cost a good bit but in all reality how much would it cost to pull an extra 50-75 hp from the engine?

there is a couple of NA 350Z DE builds out there in the 320rwhp range...if that much power can be exracted from a DE, i promise we will see 375+ just give it time and proper hands...regardless of what anyone says

Jamaica 11-17-2010 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Solus (Post 813056)
Well me for example I would love to get to about 375-400 rwhp with it being n/a as much as I enjoy fi I also have a thing for all motor vehicles. I figure with bolt-ons and a tune people are getting 315-325. Is it that big of a stretch of the imagination to get to 400? I understand it would cost a good bit but in all reality how much would it cost to pull an extra 50-75 hp from the engine?

go NA and get a stroker kit.

RCZ 11-17-2010 03:57 PM

400whp NA? lol this topic was beaten to death before. My guesstimate is somewhere around the price of buying an entirely new 370z.

Which part don't you like about FI? Have you ever seen my dyno chart? It is exactly the same as stock in power delivery, except you add 150whp.

theDreamer 11-17-2010 04:32 PM

I started the last large in depth discussion on this issue, can a 370z hit 400whp.
The general answer was at the time, no. I would still agree with that answer, there are not enough parts available and betting on when/if they are released is up to you.

A stroker kit will get you closer to 400whp, but still no guarantee but going that way you are throwing a lot of money for a naturally aspirated engine with an ECU which has not been fully utilized yet.

TipsZ 11-17-2010 05:10 PM

Are you suggesting that the ECU is the major obstacle to attaining N/A 400whp?

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 813276)
I started the last large in depth discussion on this issue, can a 370z hit 400whp.
The general answer was at the time, no. I would still agree with that answer, there are not enough parts available and betting on when/if they are released is up to you.

A stroker kit will get you closer to 400whp, but still no guarantee but going that way you are throwing a lot of money for a naturally aspirated engine with an ECU which has not been fully utilized yet.


theDreamer 11-17-2010 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TipsZ (Post 813305)
Are you suggesting that the ECU is the major obstacle to attaining N/A 400whp?

It is one item of the puzzle.
VVEL could be a big plus for those wanting to push a NA build but at the same time you need upgraded parts which are not available at this time also.

supercwf 11-17-2010 06:10 PM

Yikes sorry guys. Hope I haven't started any trouble.


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