Knock on wood, I may have suffered what appears to be a failed CSC. I barely started driving out of the parking lot at work late this afternoon when the clutch sunk to the floor shifting to 3rd. The more I pressed on it, the further it sunk to the floor with no rebound. Luckily, I barely had enough pressure to crawl back to the parking lot in 1st before it completely lost pressure and killed the car. Everything's completely stock with a little over 16k miles.

I'm scratching my head wondering why something like this would happen even though I never hard launched this car or dumped the clutch.

Anyhow, if that's the case I may be tempted to see if my dealer would be willing to install an "upgraded" CSC as well as a clutch/flywheel package.

In for results

clocked in 4K yesterday, before my car started acting up. time to tear her down and see whats wrong. its running supper rich, shooting fireballs out the back and major power loss I'm getting codes P2A00 and P2A03 but something tells me its not going to be as easy as replacing the O2 Sensors. so far clutch feels as awesome as it did on day one.

DiGitonium Talk to your dealer it would be awesome if they can install it for you since they are already there. and it is a basic bolt on affair. what I would honestly do is not talk to the service advisor about it, but talk to the tech himself be cool with him and maybe talk him into it and kick him a few bucks. that always works better since the tech get paid commission the service advisor might want to charge you a clutch job to get it done. while the tech might just say screw it and do it for you for an extra $20 - $50

C'mon, you guys have no faith. I had this problem back in 04 with my VQ35DE's clutch, so Nissan has a few years of experience messing this up! GL with this problem DIGI and thanks for the update Bardabe.

Hey Seb.... you in the Kansas area recently??? :rolleyes:

No, not recently. :)

Thanks guys. Dealer already overnighted the part, so I'm going to stick to the stock CSC until the Max Street upgrade early next year together with the FI upgrade. With the CSC failing so soon under daily driven conditions, I'm a bit hesitant to do much at the moment.

Out of curiosity since I don't know much about CSC installation, do you guys prime the CSC with fluid before installing it? I read somewhere that it is bad to press on the CSC by hand while it is still dry. We definitely need a higher spec CSC that can handle higher hydraulic pressure.

Adding fluid during installation is not necessary.

Bardabae thnx for the update...So far it is looking good and I am also keeping my eye out on this product...Looks very promising....Does anyone happen to know when Killerbee and the rest of the guys that were running the JWT Clutch began to experience problems?

somewhere between 2-10 thousand after the instal

well I just hit 5000 on my set up this weekend. so far everything seems A ok, no sign of wear or fatigue still holding great.

edit: I also just went over the 60K mark on my 07, no more warranty lol.

Seb should be getting a hold of my failed CSC next week. I'd like to see what comes out of the analysis. Can Seb determine my driving style? The tech scratched his head when he looked at the condition of my clutch. ;)

Clutch, PP, TO,CSC replacements
 

Any issues with your stuff after 15K miles?
Is the engagement/disengagement of your equipment improved over stock?
What's unique to the install over stock?

We haven't gotten one up to that mileage as of yet. Everything so far has proven to be working great at the current mileages we have accumulated. The engagements will vary depending on the disc ones chooses. Our smoothest setup would be the Street disc paired with either the Sport or Max Pressure Plate. The difference between the pressure plates is the holding capacity and will depend on if one is using Forced Induction or staying NA.

The unique thing about us is our upgraded CSC. We addressed the two major issues with the factory unit. A benefit to the flywheel is its lighter weight for quicker\freer revs and more HP. Our flywheels also offer the ability to be rebuilt for life and feature 4 separate friction plates to prevent from warping the surface.

I think tomorrow is the big day my warranty gets Voided out. on the bright side, clutch is still holding out great. did some street drifting tonight on the way home from dinner. no problems to report, other than a broken diff bushing =(

Glad your beating up our kit. Most people don't drive like you. :driving: :eek:

:iagree: Your type of driving is really putting the pressure on this product that will IMO back up the quality and reliability of it....If it can withstand the type of driving you're doing at 5K miles, what more for those of us that just do weekly drag/drift/autcross events and some spirited driving!!!

Great Job...Keep pushing it to the limit:tup: ...I have my full attention on this thread

has anyone dynod before/after with this flywheel? im curious how much power it frees up.

I know this doesn't answer your question...but rumor has it that it puts 10HP down to the ground...Seb...could you confirm this question...like esfourteen I am interested in a dyno sheet

When we first came out with the Z32 TT flywheel years ago we did a before and after dyno comparison. We gained or freed up around 15-18 whp. So it would be safe to say somewhere around 10 whp on the VHR.

That should be my next mod after the tt kit.

yeah no kidding I've broken tranny mounts, and diff bushings but clutch and flywheel are just telling me to bring it on. SPL solid diff bushings are going in to take care of that. I'll keep you guys updated. I will be doing a Final Drive swap soon. that will just make things more fun and interesting lol.

SOLID!!!!! :rock: Are you guys planning to do a before and after dyno on this kit?

Also Seb...does this Clutch, flywheel, combo require a break in period...I know that some of the aftermarket clutches I've done in the past have done required a 500mile break in before you could get on it

that's a big miss understanding, You can Get on the car, (punch it, floor it, WOT, whatever you want to call it) as long as the clutch pedal is already fully released and the clutch is engaged. you Don't want to Slip the clutch. (Launching, clutch kicking, or "Riding" the clutch) that will glaze the material and is what will cause the clutch to slip in the future. I'll let Seb explain the details and the Break in Period terms.

This is correct. You can actually go WOT w\o worry. It is the slipping that can damage the clutch. For anyone living in a hilly area will tend to wear clutches out quicker because of this. Also drag racing will typically require slipping of the clutch to get out of the hole. "Riding" the clutch is also a good way to burn up a clutch. When your off the clutch pedal (on the gas) the clutch isn't seeing any "wear" so to speak so no worries going WOT. I typically like to see 200-300 miles of break in miles which is easy street NOT highway miles.

So riding or slipping the cutch isn't good. So which combo would u recommend for those of us who drag race or live in hill areas? Is the 6 puck combo better for these conditions? If. So are your 6puck clutches sprung?

I think "riding the clutch" is the biggest problem for most people. You generate so much heat and this probably causes why our great tranny's fail, as Seb shows us above. I would bet that it's probaly be the reason why people that don't abuse their car, still encounter failure. :shakes head::shakes head: The sooner you engage, the less heat you generate.

Thanks Bardabe for abusing your car for us! I let the big guy know upstairs when I go, that you really aren't as a bad as the people driving beside you, say you are!! :bowrofl: Seb, if you need another test mule PM me, I'll abuse this for you. Sounds like we have a winner here though. :tup:

:iagree: I guess I will go with the Sprot 6-Puck Package then since I am an avid drag racer....I hear that the 6-puck can at time be harsh during engagements though...Someone recommended that if I do go with a 6-puck to get one that is sprung, as it's a bit smoother for daily driving....Does anyone know if there is any truth to this?...Seb..is the 6-Puck clutch in the Sport Package come sprung?

yes the sport 6 puck is a sprung disk, Engagement on it is awesome. not harsh at all. I've installed many of these on customer cars, and most of them can't believe its a 6 puck.

get it BOLIO! im workin on getting headers and TP's. i sence a friendly rivalry friday night drags:driving: lets see who gets the 1st 13 loser pays for a soda:tup:

Thanks Barbadae...Looks like I'm gonna go with this package....Just gotta get the rest of the $$$$ together...Thanks a lot for all the insight and to Seb for giving me a shipping quote...I will be monitoring this thread, but I am set on getting this product...should be placing my order in a month or two...



^^^^:roflpuke2: sounds good!!! Nothing wrong with a little friendly competition....

Ohhhhh the rainy weather. lol videos coming soon, gave the curb a love tap last night. no damage other than a broken rear valance. (nismo add on) shitty thing is now one of 2 things are going to happen. I get a Full Nismo 380RS-C Kit, or find some genuine Nismo rear Add on's . Clutch held great, but i think in the rain it's almost cheating didn't have to clutch kick all night. haha

I love Videos. :tiphat: Nice to see you're the "abusive" type. :tup:

Still watching Seb.... still watching

well I installed the clutch with 53,4xx Miles. as of yesterday my car has 60,408 miles. safe to say I'm about to hit the 7K mile mark with absolutely no problems.. very solid.

Think I'll be ordering this clutch/flywheel setup this week. After reading that the z32 got 15-18 WHP!! makes me want to get it and that no one is having issues with the CSC. SEB pm sent man. I don't really want to get burnt but i'm pretty confident that if the 3.0 z32 can gain 15-18WHP, that the z34 with gain 18+WHP. can't believe no one dynoed this yet, or atleast not on this thread!! I would but there is no more dyno in Guam:shakes head:

Barbade...got any updates for us? Also...SZ...wondering whether there is anyone/members out there that are also doing testing on this product?

I hit a little over 60K miles on my odometer a few weeks ago, havent had much time to drive the car around since ive been doing parts runs and hauling front clips around. Meaning I've had to use the truck,

On the Bright side I have started development on the HR Remote Mount Turbo System. (Mid Mount) so few months and this clutch will see some boosted abuse. and if it all goes well a lucky 370Z Owner will get a Sweet remote mount turbo kit to test and drive on before kits go in production ;)

:eekdance: Wohooo...if you're willing to ship to Guam, then I'm calling "SHOT GUN" on running that Turbo. Kit before production.

Thanks for the update Barbadae...BTW...how many miles have you put on this clutch?

If you're calling shotgun am calling deuce in line and i live in the US of A :D

:icon18: Since we're still an unincoporated Territory of the US of A...then you're deuce in line definately trumps my shotgun call...:roflpuke2: :roflpuke2: :roflpuke2: