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JakeZ34 04-18-2010 10:29 PM

Changed my oil today, Just want to share my thoughts
 
So today I hit the 5000 miles mark on the car so I've decided to change my oil to Redline 5w30. I first changed the oil at the dealership (free one) when my car hit 2000 miles after my break-in grandma style driving. So here are some pictures of the process and I'll share my review with you guys.

Lifted the car and used 2 jack stands
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/...0/photo8-1.jpg
Another view
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/...0/photo6-1.jpg
All the items and products:
6 quarts of Redline 5w30, Thanks Kyle@Stillen, went to see him and got some oil. Also saw the supercharged 370z / Stillen GT-R, FilterMag SS250, Purolator Filter, Titek Magnetic Drain Plug.
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/...0/photo5-1.jpg
Purolator filter / titek drain plug
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/.../photo10-2.jpg
Filtermag on!
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/.../photo12-2.jpg
Getting ready
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/...0/photo9-2.jpg
Filling it up!
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/.../photo11-2.jpg
And DONE!
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/.../photo13-2.jpg

REVIEW:
So thanks to AK for posting his DIY, it made the process fairly easy considering this is my FIRST time changing the oil by myself. The whole process took a little bit under an hour, I encourage everyone to try it.

Redline 5w30
I drove around after filling up the oil to see what the differences are, from my hearing it seems like the engine sounds a bit different at idle and it's not so rough anymore, driving wise I think I'm getting a placebo effect, I just feel like it's a lot smoother lol

FilterMag
Great little product, a bit pricey but hey my baby gets pampered right!

Titek Plug
I originally ordered the KICS that AK uses, but evasive motorsports called and said they're on backorder, so the guys gave me the Titeks at no extra charge, and shipping was insane fast, 2 business days! And I did some testing on how strong the magnets are, it's pretty sturdy and strong, don't think I'll be worrying about it flying off into the oil pan.

Purolator filter
Again thanks to AK for sharing with us the filter, it is a lot bigger and I think purolator is a great brand for oil filters so definitely can't go wrong with it. Very easy to install.

Final Thoughts
Again this oil change is pretty easy, the hard part is to get the undertray off, which takes about 10 minutes. Other then that everything else is easy. Placebo effect taking place definitely I feel the car is a lot smoother. And again this oil change costed about $140 US because it was my first time buying all the necessary products, filtermag itself was about 43 bucks and titek plug about 22 bucks and oil 6 quarts came out to be about 65 bucks and filter about 4 bucks. But after this one, the next change is at 10,000 miles and it'll only cost me about 60 bucks total because I just need to buy the oil and filter.

AK370Z 04-18-2010 11:00 PM

AWESOME MAN! Great to see you did the oil change without any issues :tup:.

Just like you JAKE, I did my first (FREE) oil change at the dealer at 2200 miles. Then, switched to synthetic around 4000 miles. "knock on wood", I think I'm 200 miles shy of 18,000 miles now. Car has been running GREAT! :tup:

On the other hand, I can't believe you didn't use Aquafina bottle at nozzle! :bowrofl: :icon17: ..J/K ;).

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...50pour-oil.jpg

Xan 04-18-2010 11:05 PM

Just one note on the FilterMag, I heard people actually lost while driving.

And the last think you would want is to have any shavings it has gathered to all be released at once.

So I would add two of these:

http://img.directindustry.com/images...amp-309761.jpg

The BlueMax 04-18-2010 11:09 PM

Great instructual review, I have 1900 miles and getting ready for my first one too, I don't have the jack stands yet or magnetic plug. What model filter is that? I'm just using a fram this time but would prefer yours.

JakeZ34 04-18-2010 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluemax (Post 503089)
Great instructual review, I have 1900 miles and getting ready for my first one too, I don't have the jack stands yet or magnetic plug. What model filter is that? I'm just using a fram this time but would prefer yours.

I wouldn't go synthetic til 5000 miles or atleast 3500. That's what Redline recommended. And to answer your question, the filter model # is PL14610

JakeZ34 04-18-2010 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xan (Post 503076)
Just one note on the FilterMag, I heard people actually lost while driving.

And the last think you would want is to have any shavings it has gathered to all be released at once.

So I would add two of these:

http://img.directindustry.com/images...amp-309761.jpg

Thanks for the heads up! I will definitely add 2 of those on next time at 10k. Not looking forward to removing all those bolts LOL

Red370 04-18-2010 11:19 PM

just an FYI, the under plate doesnt have to be removed, you can remove the four screws on the part that folds down and get to the drain plug/filter, just for future reference so you dont have to piddle with all them screws.

JakeZ34 04-18-2010 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 503069)
AWESOME MAN! Great to see you did the oil change without any issues :tup:.

Just like you JAKE, I did my first (FREE) oil change at the dealer at 2200 miles. Then, switched to synthetic around 4000 miles. "knock on wood", I think I'm 200 miles shy of 18,000 miles now. Car has been running GREAT! :tup:

On the other hand, I can't believe you didn't use Aquafina bottle at nozzle! :bowrofl: :icon17: ..J/K ;).

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...50pour-oil.jpg

You know what's funny? I was thinking about grabbing a bottle of aquafina on the way home from Pepboys for the filter but I realize that I have a nozzle in the garage lol.

JakeZ34 04-18-2010 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 503104)
just an FYI, the under plate doesnt have to be removed, you can remove the four screws on the part that folds down and get to the drain plug/filter, just for future reference so you dont have to piddle with all them screws.

but doesn't the oil get into the undertray?

Trips 04-18-2010 11:29 PM

Nice write up Jake
same here at 5k changed over to redline and the idle ticking was all but gone...

trent1331 04-18-2010 11:37 PM

I just ordered my 6 quarts, oil change this weekend if weather allows..

gumpy 04-19-2010 01:11 AM

man i wish i had the skill to do this...

my baby needs an oil change but waiting for the service to come around.

Red370 04-19-2010 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeZ34 (Post 503107)
but doesn't the oil get into the undertray?

nope, fold it over.

zmyride 04-19-2010 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xan (Post 503076)
Just one note on the FilterMag, I heard people actually lost while driving.

i really doubt it. i tried to pull the magnet off the filter but couldn't, i had to slide it off.

i think when people take their Z to the dealership for service, and one of those service dudes stole their filtermag more like it.

VCuomo 04-19-2010 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeZ34 (Post 503102)
I wouldn't go synthetic til 5000 miles or atleast 3500. That's what Redline recommended. And to answer your question, the filter model # is PL14610

Redline recommends 5000 miles for a 370Z, or just as a general recommendation?

JakeZ34 04-19-2010 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 503194)
Redline recommends 5000 miles for a 370Z, or just as a general recommendation?

I follow that rule, but I know AK did his earlier then 5k I think. Just a general rule of thumb, sometimes it is a good idea to follow the direction, fellas don't flame me for saying this. Of if someone who is an expert wanna chime in?

JakeZ34 04-19-2010 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gumpy (Post 503176)
man i wish i had the skill to do this...

my baby needs an oil change but waiting for the service to come around.

Don't be discouraged! Like I said in my post, THIS IS MY FIRST FIRST TIME changing oil by myself on any car. VERY FIRST! And it took me little less then an hour, You just gotta follow AK's thread in DIY, very very informational.

JakeZ34 04-19-2010 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 503179)
nope, fold it over.

Cool thanks, but when you take the oil filter off sometimes it goes crazy so I think I'll be unbolting those other 14 bolts, shouldn't take long if you have the right tools, I had one of those cordless super mini hand drills, All I do is just use the correct bolt size attachment on them and it took about literally 5 to 10 min to take the whole undertray off. But thanks for the advice though! If I had to do an oil change in 30 min I"ll consider it!

JakeZ34 04-19-2010 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 503114)
Nice write up Jake
same here at 5k changed over to redline and the idle ticking was all but gone...

Thanks Trips. Sorry I've been MIA for all those meets, you gotta keep me on my toes by PMing me. I don't usually check the So-Cal threads.

JakeZ34 04-19-2010 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmyride (Post 503184)
i really doubt it. i tried to pull the magnet off the filter but couldn't, i had to slide it off.

i think when people take their Z to the dealership for service, and one of those service dudes stole their filtermag more like it.

HAHAHA so true. Those people are thieves, GPS, Cell phone, whatever valuables you leave in the car while they're servicing they'll take it. And you can't do nothing about it.

spearfish25 04-19-2010 07:18 AM

Couple things.

First, have you ever tried to pull off a filter mag? No F'ing way that can fall off with anything short of a driving off a cliff and hitting the rocks below.

Second, be careful when changing your oil if you're only lifting on two jack stands. The first time I did that, I overfilled because I didn't drain the oil completely. I just did an oil change yesterday and put the car on four jack stands to level it out. Took 5 quarts exactly since the K&N oil filter is smaller than the stocker.

LunaZ 04-19-2010 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 503292)
Second, be careful when changing your oil if you're only lifting on two jack stands. The first time I did that, I overfilled because I didn't drain the oil completely. I just did an oil change yesterday and put the car on four jack stands to level it out. Took 5 quarts exactly since the K&N oil filter is smaller than the stocker.

I was going to make a similar comment.
My driveway has a slight downhill slope to it, so pointing the car down the driveway and jacking the front up results in a nearly level car.
Don't forget the wheel chocks!

JakeZ34 04-19-2010 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 503292)
Couple things.

First, have you ever tried to pull off a filter mag? No F'ing way that can fall off with anything short of a driving off a cliff and hitting the rocks below.

Second, be careful when changing your oil if you're only lifting on two jack stands. The first time I did that, I overfilled because I didn't drain the oil completely. I just did an oil change yesterday and put the car on four jack stands to level it out. Took 5 quarts exactly since the K&N oil filter is smaller than the stocker.

good to know! I was having a bit of problem figuring out where to put the jackstands since this was my very first time changing the oil. Or let alone jacking the car up. So spear can you take maybe a picture of where I should put the jackstands front and back for the next change??

Zigen5 04-19-2010 08:57 AM

I did my oil change too at 4k and the job was simple... I used Mobile 1 with Mobile 1 filter. The Mobile 1 filter looks identical to the stock, the Pure One looks a little bigger then stock.

There is no way the filter mag will come off! You would have to slide it off for it to come off. As for tools, I used the Race Ramp and I love it!!!! Did you not use a washer on your drain plug?

As for the cover, I just unscrewed the for screws and used a bungee cord to hold the flap back. I connected the hole in the flap to the hole near the wheel well. There is no need to take the whole cover off...

There is a big difference with new oil in my Z... I think the Z loves to be driven now.. :bowrofl:

kenchan 04-19-2010 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmyride (Post 503184)
i think when people take their Z to the dealership for service, and one of those service dudes stole their filtermag more like it.

or those service dudes didnt know wat it was and threw it out with the old filter...

j.arnaldo 04-19-2010 01:45 PM

Looks easy and safe with just the jack stands. Did you use chocks, too? The driveway where I do my oil changes has a mild incline, which forced me to purchase chocks.

kenchan 04-19-2010 01:53 PM

you should use chocks anyway regardless of incline when lifting one end. so it was a worthy investment. :)

j.arnaldo 04-19-2010 02:06 PM

Thanks, dude! I got 'em on clearance at Kmart ($5.99/pair!) Greetings. BTW, carpal tunnel syndrome is making it more and more difficult to do such simple tasks. I might end up having to sell all my gear!...sigh...

kenchan 04-19-2010 03:42 PM

well, if you can't physically do it, just take it into the dealer and have them do it. grab a cup of coffee and watch tv in the waiting room. that's how 99% of the population do it anyways. :D

hope you feel better soon.

JakeZ34 04-19-2010 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.arnaldo (Post 503819)
Looks easy and safe with just the jack stands. Did you use chocks, too? The driveway where I do my oil changes has a mild incline, which forced me to purchase chocks.

Yes I did use chocks. Just didn't show in picture. 6.99 pair at walmart ftw

JakeZ34 04-19-2010 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zigen5 (Post 503369)
I did my oil change too at 4k and the job was simple... I used Mobile 1 with Mobile 1 filter. The Mobile 1 filter looks identical to the stock, the Pure One looks a little bigger then stock.

There is no way the filter mag will come off! You would have to slide it off for it to come off. As for tools, I used the Race Ramp and I love it!!!! Did you not use a washer on your drain plug?

As for the cover, I just unscrewed the for screws and used a bungee cord to hold the flap back. I connected the hole in the flap to the hole near the wheel well. There is no need to take the whole cover off...

There is a big difference with new oil in my Z... I think the Z loves to be driven now.. :bowrofl:

Yes I did use drain plug washer. Copper crush ones. Dealer gave me 2 for free

spearfish25 04-19-2010 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeZ34 (Post 503360)
good to know! I was having a bit of problem figuring out where to put the jackstands since this was my very first time changing the oil. Or let alone jacking the car up. So spear can you take maybe a picture of where I should put the jackstands front and back for the next change??

I won't be able to get pics until the car is up again, and that could be a while. Let me try to describe where I put all four jack stands...

Front:
Just under the rocker panel (where a running board would go), you'll see a flange running the length of the car. In the front, there are two divets in the flange which is the recommended front jack point. I jack the car up on each side at this point and place a jack stand on the same flange just forward of the jack point.

Rear:
On that same flange, there is another pair of divets toward the rear. I jack the car at one of these points. Usually if the front is already up, both rear tires can be lifted off the ground by jacking at just one of these rear points. Once the rear is up, I place the jack stands under the silver aluminum suspension struts. You'll see where the rear springs seat into the round portion of the aluminum struts. If you put the jack stands under the round part of the strut, you'll get a lot of 'sag' as the spring compresses. Instead, I place the jack stands further toward the inside, close to where the silver struts meet the hinge joint. It will make sense when you look under the car after having read this.

One word of advice. As you lower the car each time on the jack stands, do it slowly, check, and double check how the car is being held. I've found that once the front is on jack stands, dropping the rear onto them is more challenging as the car moves sideways a bit as the floor jack comes down. Just make sure all your jack stands are touching the desired points on the bottom of the car AND the jack stand 'feet' are all flat on the ground.

Also, use chocks as previously mentioned. If you don't use chocks, you have to jack the front up first. If you jack the rear off the ground first, neither the transmission or the parking brake will hold the car. It may very well roll off your jack stands, or even roll away as you're jacking it up.

IDZRVIT 04-19-2010 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 503292)
Couple things.

First, have you ever tried to pull off a filter mag? No F'ing way that can fall off with anything short of a driving off a cliff and hitting the rocks below.

Second, be careful when changing your oil if you're only lifting on two jack stands. The first time I did that, I overfilled because I didn't drain the oil completely. I just did an oil change yesterday and put the car on four jack stands to level it out. Took 5 quarts exactly since the K&N oil filter is smaller than the stocker.

I only put oil back in when the car is off the two stands. It's a lot easier than adding two more and there isn't that much oil left in the pan.

And for those who are OCD about getting all the oil out, consider this. It takes 5.8 L of oil to fill a dry engine. So, where is that other 0.6 L hiding that just won't come out?

gumpy 04-19-2010 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 504290)
I only put oil back in when the car is off the two stands. It's a lot easier than adding two more and there isn't that much oil left in the pan.

And for those who are OCD about getting all the oil out, consider this. It takes 5.8 L of oil to fill a dry engine. So, where is that other 0.6 L hiding that just won't come out?

ME I have OCD!!!

I thought our car takes 4.9L of oil so i got 5L's of the stuff for my next change... I'm f'd in the a if I need to buy another 5L bottle for the extra part...

the manual states 4.9L =(

IDZRVIT 04-19-2010 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gumpy (Post 504319)
ME I have OCD!!!

I thought our car takes 4.9L of oil so i got 5L's of the stuff for my next change... I'm f'd in the a if I need to buy another 5L bottle for the extra part...

the manual states 4.9L =(

I was off by a few tenths of a litre. Anyway, from the service manual:

Quote:

Drain and refill
With oil filter change 4.9 (5-1/8, 4-1/4)
Without oil filter change 4.6 (4-7/8, 4)
Dry engine (Overhaul) 5.7 (6, 5)

kenchan 04-19-2010 07:33 PM

3 pages worth of thoughts for a simple oil change? Dang...

IDZRVIT 04-19-2010 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 504338)
3 pages worth of thoughts for a simple oil change? Dang...

Pales in comparison to guys discussing exhausts.:tiphat:

gumpy 04-19-2010 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 504337)
I was off by a few tenths of a litre. Anyway, from the service manual:

ah ok thanks...

yes you pose a good question of where that left over oil hides...

j.arnaldo 04-22-2010 08:43 AM

Kaput. Finito. The End. No Más. Se Acabó. O.K.!

jpit 04-22-2010 10:42 AM

The oil drain plug is at the back of the oil pan so putting the car on ramps (or jacking it up) will have no effect except the oil will drain out a little faster.


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