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Z eliminator 04-06-2010 06:21 PM

Im waiting for my tranny and oil cooler kit from GTM. I do not have that warm fuzzy feeling after reading this thread.

phelan 04-06-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 483940)
Obviously a good move on your part Kyle. I know of no Stillen cooler line failures.....It's obvious that these are the most important parts. Cores are cores, you rarely, if ever, hear of a failure there....

Oh, you'd be surprised about cores, but then again, I'm speaking from experience in the aerospace industry.

cossie1600 04-06-2010 07:24 PM

The good news is that the oil psi light work!

1slow370 04-06-2010 08:22 PM

Man i just don't even want to look at the thing right now, 3 weeks in the air from waiting for a stub shaft, managed to make the viscous axle work with some lathe time a carbide drill and some roll pins (a stroke of genius on my part if i do say so) take it out and 5 hours later the damn cooler blows the hell up. now i'm going to have to tear the front end back apart not to mention cleaning the crap out of the engine bay, but like i said don't go blaming gtm just yet we'll save that until after i take it apart and see where she's spraying from. It may be my fault but we'll see on that I'm not going to just shove this off on bad lines just yet. don't want to ruin their reputation further until i know what it is. If it is GTM's fault I'll have to deal with it and bust out the phone and give sam a call but let's just wait and see.

SAM@GTM 04-06-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 484305)
Man i just don't even want to look at the thing right now, 3 weeks in the air from waiting for a stub shaft, managed to make the viscous axle work with some lathe time a carbide drill and some roll pins (a stroke of genius on my part if i do say so) take it out and 5 hours later the damn cooler blows the hell up. now i'm going to have to tear the front end back apart not to mention cleaning the crap out of the engine bay, but like i said don't go blaming gtm just yet we'll save that until after i take it apart and see where she's spraying from. It may be my fault but we'll see on that I'm not going to just shove this off on bad lines just yet. don't want to ruin their reputation further until i know what it is. If it is GTM's fault I'll have to deal with it and bust out the phone and give sam a call but let's just wait and see.

First of all sorry about all your trouble, Please let us know what is your finding of what ever could have caused this, We are here to help, and we will do what ever it takes to make things right.

pm sent

Sam

DannyGT 04-06-2010 10:51 PM

Thankfully I havent had any issues with mine for just about 7k miles now. Looking forward to what it is you find went wrong!

1slow370 04-07-2010 02:44 AM

http://www.the370z.com/members/1slow...blown-line.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/1slow...slack-line.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/1slow...at-blowout.jpg

I can't find any reason for the line to have come out both lines have a ton of slack, and the picture shows the swaybar as high up as it goes as the suspension is fully unloaded and it's close but it doesn't even touch the lines.

Also the inside of the hose is totally smooth and doesn't show hardly any signs of having a single barb pressed into it. It isn't torn up at all but i'll tell you this the ID of the line looks much bigger than the barb fitting(i know it may have expanded but seriously it looks like the joint was barely held together at all).

1slow370 04-07-2010 03:03 AM

i just hope my engine isn't damaged there may have been 2 minutes there when i costed into a parking lot where it was running after the line blew then i shut it off as soon as i got in the lot and called the tow. there can't have been much of any pressure in the oil system, i'm hoping i was saved by my oil being cold enough that the cooler was in bypass so there is a chance some oil was still going to the bearings.

Minicobra1 04-07-2010 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 483991)
There really is no need to have one if you don't race the car on a course.

My car regularly sees 240-250 on a hot day (normal grandma driving) I start to notice the cars throttle response decreasing right when it hits about 220, it really feels sluggish and like it has lost power compared to when its running 160-180 when first driving off after a few minutes of warm up.
I definitely think this car needs a cooler, at least my car, I could never drive spiritedly during the summer without one. It sucks.

m4a1mustang 04-07-2010 05:20 AM

Yikes. That looks exactly like the other GTM cooler failure we've seen.

Mike 04-07-2010 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 484707)
i just hope my engine isn't damaged there may have been 2 minutes there when i costed into a parking lot where it was running after the line blew then i shut it off as soon as i got in the lot and called the tow. there can't have been much of any pressure in the oil system, i'm hoping i was saved by my oil being cold enough that the cooler was in bypass so there is a chance some oil was still going to the bearings.

you said you still had two quarts left in the pan, right? If so, your engine should be fine. Oil should be flowing from the pickup tube, through the engine then out to the filter, right?

Modshack 04-07-2010 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 484703)
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I can't find any reason for the line to have come out both lines have a ton of slack, and the picture shows the swaybar as high up as it goes as the suspension is fully unloaded and it's close but it doesn't even touch the lines.

Also the inside of the hose is totally smooth and doesn't show hardly any signs of having a single barb pressed into it. It isn't torn up at all but i'll tell you this the ID of the line looks much bigger than the barb fitting(i know it may have expanded but seriously it looks like the joint was barely held together at all).

I'm sticking with my theory of incorrectly assembled hoses. BTW, the inside will be smooth and seem bigger as the screw in piece of the fitting (Nipple) is tapered and smooth. As it is tightened it presses the Stainless jacketed side out to engage with the barbs in the outer barrel. Done wrong (see step 3) and you have a problem...Since these are re-usable fittings, it is easy to unscrew the Nipple to check for proper hose engagement..

http://images18.fotki.com/v457/filem.../anfitting.jpg

Daishi 04-07-2010 10:29 AM

Looks like I'm not buying a cooler from gtm :/

CrownR426 04-07-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 483596)
These kinds of posts really make me scared to get a oil cooler

Not at all, if you can't do it just take it to a shop and they'll do a great job.
:tup:
Our z's need these asap. Should be one of the first mods done.

Zsteve 04-07-2010 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 483937)
I've been watching this and have hesitated to respond due to the obvious relationship but I feel it necessary to say that there is no need to be concerned of all production oil cooler kits. We have not experienced any hose failures with our oil cooler kit. We use genuine Goodridge hoses which do cost more but as you can see, the quality is worth it.

Man what a perfect plug huh?


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