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Originally Posted by fuct i thought the ONLY reason ester oil was "recommended" for our cars was the diamond polished heads, and that group 4 oils wont adhear to the

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Old 11-30-2011, 07:42 PM   #29 (permalink)
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i thought the ONLY reason ester oil was "recommended" for our cars was the diamond polished heads, and that group 4 oils wont adhear to the polished heads.... causing them to get hotter and make more noise. other than that our engine runs perfectly fine with group 4 oils....

i was an advocate for redline for my first 24k miles. last two changes have been with a quality group 4 oil and everything sounds and feels fine.
Sort of -- allegedly the DLC coating on the valve train has a greater affinity for ester oils (or at least Nissan's magic blend), but other non-ester oils will still bond, just not as well.

That said, I have a feeling the difference only matters for long term drivetrain wear (and noise) if anything -- meaning if the motor held together for 300K miles, then a head lubed with ester oil would have less wear than one that used another blend.

of course, if the rest of the motor tends to **** the bed 100K before that then it's all academic...

As to temps, at least on a few glances at the oil temps after hard driving, I'd say the Castrol ran about 5* or so cooler than the Redline is (and keep in mind it is finally getting a bit chilly in FL too...), but I won't know for certain unless I can observe it on the dyno which can really heat up the oil in short order, as well as give me a way of evaluating time to cool down for subsequent runs.

I think I'll switch back to the German Castrol on the next one and compare and contrast with Redline after 4K.
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