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shadow85 09-30-2021 07:22 PM

Best motor builder or switch platforms?
 
I have been fancying the idea of building the motor and 7AT trans for a reliable 800-900whp weekend warrior.

Who is the best, most reliable and trusted motor builder for the VQ37. I know there are a few good ones around nowadays, Dynosty, IPP, SOHO just to name a few.

Is there a general consensus on which would be my best bet for the strongest builder. I would need for them to be able to supply the core, build and ship to Australia if possible. Or send the rebuild kit and have a local shop to do the build on my core. Same with the transmission, but still not sure which builder to chose for that, IPT or Pure Transmission USA?

Either the above, or sell my current Z and fund towards a 2019 Supra, or 2018 Audi TTRS. They are the options I want to lay down, not interested in any other cars, well at least within my budget.

Please give me any opinions or advice about this request? Thanks.

jchammond 09-30-2021 07:29 PM

I have Mazworx Built Engine & IPT built trans :tup:

I like the Darton sleeves :iagree:

shadow85 09-30-2021 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 4010375)
I have Mazworx Built Engine & IPT built trans :tup:

I like the Darton sleeves :iagree:

Interesting.

Can you share what power/tq you are making, and is it all holding up alrite.

After the motor/trans build, was there alot of teething issues with them, and or major breakdowns that required further re-building?

I just want to know, if I should continue to bother on this platform, or sell it for something like the other cars in my OP.

redondoaveb 09-30-2021 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 4010379)
Interesting.

Can you share what power/tq you are making, and is it all holding up alrite.

After the motor/trans build, was there alot of teething issues with them, and or major breakdowns that required further re-building?

I just want to know, if I should continue to bother on this platform, or sell it for something like the other cars in my OP.

His car's not complete yet but here a thread on one that's completed. He's making a little over 1000 whp. He's running a manual trans though with a Mazworx motor

http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...torsports.html

shadow85 09-30-2021 10:03 PM

ok gona read later, thanks.

But wow, he started that thread in 2018. 3 yrs, and still not finished?

I am unsure if I can wait long periods of time again without the car. I have already done that on numerous occasions.

More of a reason why I want to switch platforms and go for a stage 3 build + tune on either the B58 or TTRS platform.

But then again, I have already spent tons of coin on my Z and should keep it, and I think it still looks very good! Ahh decisions, decisions.

redondoaveb 09-30-2021 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 4010385)
ok gona read later, thanks.

But wow, he started that thread in 2018. 3 yrs, and still not finished?

I am unsure if I can wait long periods of time again without the car. I have already done that on numerous occasions.

More of a reason why I want to switch platforms and go for a stage 3 build + tune on either the B58 or TTRS platform.

But then again, I have already spent tons of coin on my Z and should keep it, and I think it still looks very good! Ahh decisions, decisions.

The 1000 whp car is complete. jchammonds car isn't complete yet. Your car doesn't need to be down too long if you're not using your existing motor for your new build

shadow85 09-30-2021 10:48 PM

Ok understood.

Yeah, I was thinking about getting a side motor.

But in all honesty, I don't need to aim for 1000whp. I rekon a reliable 800whp would be plenty enough. I just don't want to deal with heaps of head aches, and or failures though lol i feel like i have done that on my current build for plenty of years.

That's why I am willing to pay the coin for the best work and install, and pray its not going to be tons of ongoing issues.

But then I guess, when venturing into this kind of territory, nothing is guaranteed rite?

redondoaveb 09-30-2021 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 4010389)
Ok understood.

Yeah, I was thinking about getting a side motor.

But in all honesty, I don't need to aim for 1000whp. I rekon a reliable 800whp would be plenty enough. I just don't want to deal with heaps of head aches, and or failures though lol i feel like i have done that on my current build for plenty of years.

That's why I am willing to pay the coin for the best work and install, and pray its not going to be tons of ongoing issues.

But then I guess, when venturing into this kind of territory, nothing is guaranteed rite?

The 2 best out there are Mazworx and SOHO but like you said, nothing is guaranteed. Jchammond or Spooler are better suited to answer your questions though, I just follow their builds :tup:

jchammond 10-01-2021 03:43 AM

Shadow85,
Planning to be up & running before 2022 gets here…but I’ve been a bit slacking lately with my wrench time (personal reasons lol)
The Mazworx engine has the Darton mid sleeves properly installed with their knowledgeable staff + many years building Race Engine’s.
Pro H-Beam Carillon rods, Forged CP Pistons (96mm 10:1 CR), King Race Bearings (Rod,Main/Thrust), ARP Main/Head Studs, CNC Port/Polish heads, Chamber Polish, Bronze Guides, +1 mm Supertech valves (Inconel exhaust), JWT C2 exhaust cams, ATI Damper, engine spun & primed w/30wt.break in oil, oil pressure checked.
Phone or email Mark@Mazworx.
Elmo has helped a few people source engine’s to them for others.
John at IPT has developed a good rep with boosted VQ’s in front of his built 7A/T’s.
I’m gonna limit my high boost initially at 24# though engine is rated up to 40# boost.

FL 4Motion 10-01-2021 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 4010373)
I have been fancying the idea of building the motor and 7AT trans for a reliable 800-900whp weekend warrior.

Who is the best, most reliable and trusted motor builder for the VQ37. I know there are a few good ones around nowadays, Dynosty, IPP, SOHO just to name a few.

Is there a general consensus on which would be my best bet for the strongest builder. I would need for them to be able to supply the core, build and ship to Australia if possible. Or send the rebuild kit and have a local shop to do the build on my core. Same with the transmission, but still not sure which builder to chose for that, IPT or Pure Transmission USA?

Either the above, or sell my current Z and fund towards a 2019 Supra, or 2018 Audi TTRS. They are the options I want to lay down, not interested in any other cars, well at least within my budget.

Please give me any opinions or advice about this request? Thanks.


If you really like the z, then keep it and go built motor/trans plus all the additional sh1t like cooling, brakes, rear diff, axles etc.

But the other two platforms are gonna be easier to make faster. The ttrs is a monster, I speak from experience. :driving:

Oh, if you’re gonna build a reliable 800-900 whp motor and trans, that’s essentially the same build as a 1000 whp build as far as requirements to be rock solid.


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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 4010385)
ok gona read later, thanks.

But wow, he started that thread in 2018. 3 yrs, and still not finished?

I am unsure if I can wait long periods of time again without the car. I have already done that on numerous occasions.

More of a reason why I want to switch platforms and go for a stage 3 build + tune on either the B58 or TTRS platform.

But then again, I have already spent tons of coin on my Z and should keep it, and I think it still looks very good! Ahh decisions, decisions.

A stage III build with a hybrid turbo setup on a ttrs will run 9’s, with a full BT swap, iirc they’re in the 8’s now. (E85).

The stock drivetrain will live under stage III hybrid turbo setup providing you aren’t reckless (700-750 hp w/ e85).

Instead of focusing on a whp #. Ask yourself how fast do you want to go? And how deep are your pockets? It will be easier to go xxx speed/time in a ttrs vs a built z.

If you’re gonna dump $$ into a car, (make no mistake, a stage III built ttrs is still a big build albeit much less than the z build), you really want to be sure you’re committed to a long term relationship forsaking all others etc. otherwise, you’ll end up selling at pennies on the dollar and lose your shirt.

Spooler 10-01-2021 09:17 AM

Do you really want to go down this road. You struggled with 600whp or less from what I remember. 700whp is still not that bad with the proper mods. 800whp it is starting to get crazy. 900whp and up is off the chart. If you have 6 figures laying around, go for it.

JARblue 10-01-2021 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 4010385)
But wow, he started that thread in 2018. 3 yrs, and still not finished?

I am unsure if I can wait long periods of time again without the car. I have already done that on numerous occasions.

:facepalm:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4010427)
Do you really want to go down this road. You struggled with 600whp or less from what I remember. 700whp is still not that bad with the proper mods. 800whp it is starting to get crazy. 900whp and up is off the chart. If you have 6 figures laying around, go for it.

He's a glutton for punishment :icon17:

cv129 10-01-2021 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 4010431)

He's a glutton for punishment :icon17:

He's trying to keep the forum alive by punishing himself, creating juicy contents in doing so. :bowrofl:

Tractionless 10-01-2021 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 4010373)
I have been fancying the idea of building the motor and 7AT trans for a reliable 800-900whp weekend warrior.

Like to see ya incorporate the VR trans. under the Z since!!

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...sion-swap.html

Hammond,
Did you look into this by chance?

Mr.Squeeze 10-01-2021 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 4010385)
ok gona read later, thanks.

But wow, he started that thread in 2018. 3 yrs, and still not finished?

I am unsure if I can wait long periods of time again without the car. I have already done that on numerous occasions.

More of a reason why I want to switch platforms and go for a stage 3 build + tune on either the B58 or TTRS platform.

But then again, I have already spent tons of coin on my Z and should keep it, and I think it still looks very good! Ahh decisions, decisions.

To minimize down time get another engine or at least a short block to cut down on down time. The thing with building a car or any car is nothing is going to go perfect even with the best builder or shop. You will have delays something will break there will be some type setback. People always think just pay shop slap it together that's just not reality for a lot of builds.


The information has been given to you Soho Motorsports or Mazworx are the best right now.


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