Just a couple notes, because there isn't a single 'correct' answer to your question here.

-On an NA car, you can run GT-R injectors for E85. That's your cheapest immediate option.
-On a boosted car, with 93 octane, you already need substantially larger injectors. I'm running 750cc @ ~500whp, using about 80% of capacity.
-If I were running E85, I'd need to increase size substantially, probably 1300s or 1700s.
-If that's where you're heading, you'll also need a bigger fuel pump or fuel pumps to provide appropriate flow.

You'll absolutely need a tune once you go to larger injectors. Trust me when I say that your car will not work with incorrect fuel scaling ;)

Edit: +1 on Rusty's comment about the AAM twin turbo kit. Do not go for that one. If you want twins, go Fast Intentions. If you'd consider a large twin scroll turbo, go BP.

Just because you're a hermaphrodite. Doesn't mean you have to swing your junk around. :nutswinger: :icon23:



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Thanks JLarson. That helped me understand better. Coming from a carburetor background the and jetting to specific requirements don't translate well to fuel injection. I also appreciate the feedback on the AAM kit Rusty. This helps in planning out which pumps, rails, injectors to get now so I can upgrade later to TT.

Get your fuel system parts from phunk at CJM. He's the go to guy. Two of the things you should get from him is the fuel pressure gauge and the top hat for the fuel pump.

I used to run around with a 572 CI Dart with a modded 1150 Holley on it. Going from carbs to fuel injection is a learning curve. You are now dealing with injector size, pulse width, dwell time, fuel pressure and a few other things. You are going from a wet flow to a dry flow on CFM too.

I suggest if members are not going to be helpful to stay out.

Thank You to those who are trying to be helpful. :tup:

Please keep the tech section on topic and not make it personal.

I would appreciate that. :tiphat:

Guess we're getting soft here, too. Let me try again.

"That was rather unwise.

Of course it didn't switch to an ethanol map, silly. The sensor is aftermarket only."

Specialty Z sales the flexfuel kit. Uprev does not support flexfuel, so you'll have to be tuned on ECUtek. And for the sake of your car, keep corn out of it until you have bigger injectors and it's tuned for it.

I spent some time over at SZR Pro today here in Houston talking with Dane and Brad about build plans and some of the conversations here. The did acknowledge that some people have had some oil return issues on the AAM twin turbo kit and believe they have worked out the issues. Dane is building a fresh motor with the aam stage 2 kit on it and explained some of the known issues being the left side turbo oil line comes default with a straight an fitting and being so close to the fender well, it often gets pinched or kinked. Additionally have the return lines enter the oil pan (wide Greddy I think) vertically instead of from the side helps alleviate pooling in the lines and lateral flow issues. Sound like they may have that kit dialed in well and given the lower price tag (compared to FI) it might still be a good option.

On the build details, here is the road I will begin traveling down:

1700cc injectors $1500
Specialty Z Flex Fuel Kit
AAM Fuel Rail Kit 1329.99
FI Fuel Return System 1045.00
FI or AAM Twin Turbo Kit
Catch can kit
ATI Super Damper
Walbro Dual Pumps
Greddy Profec Boost Controller

P.S. Whjaxn17 - I love how you just can't resist trolling and throwing in your useless 2cent comments. I already admitted I was new, I already admitted I was not knowledgable on ECU/Fuel Injected setups, I already admitted I screwed up buy jumping the gun, and I learned a lot from this experience. Unfortunately all I learned from you is that you don't have valuable input and I should ignore anything you say. Start acting mature and prove me wrong.

Don't get any fuel system parts from AAM. Their fuel system kits are having issues. There is a thread or 2 on the problems.

On the oiling issues on the AAM turbo kits. Some have installed an oil scavenging pump on the return line.

Any recommendations on rails/gauge then?

Phunk at CJM. He has complete fuel systems.

Don't get so butthurt over some of the comments. We all screw with and make fun of each other. The people you're calling trolls are extremely knowledgeable people and can be great help with your build process. Just go with the flow. Everyone gets picked on, it's nothing personal.

With that being said, CJM S1.SE return fuel system is probably the best on the market. It comes with billet fuel rails and you can order a fuel pressure gauge with the kit.

And what kind of power are you looking for, 1700cc injectors may be overkill. 1300cc may be a better choice.

You troll!

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Yea. They might be overkill but basically 600 until I decided to rebuild the motor and then 800-900 in the end. I had a buddy doing about 1050whp and I dont know if I will ever go that high. I guess my thought process is if I am spending 1300...why not spend 1500 and never have that as a limiting factor. Is there a downside other than the price for getting the 1700s?

P.S. Whjaxn17 - I love how you just can't resist trolling and throwing in your useless 2cent comments. I already admitted I was new, I already admitted I was not knowledgable on ECU/Fuel Injected setups, I already admitted I screwed up buy jumping the gun, and I learned a lot from this experience. Unfortunately all I learned from you is that you don't have valuable input and I should ignore anything you say. Start acting mature and prove me wrong.[/QUOTE]

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How much money do you think they are making on selling you the AAM kit and install? They think they've figured it out, but they're still in the middle of that build? Is that what I just read? So how do you know they fixed it? Do you really want to be a guinea pig to find out whether they actually fixed it or not?
I recommend you listen to Rusty and tell them to cram that AAM kit in some other chump's vehicle :gtfo2:


You certainly have an interesting definition of "useless". He literally gave you a perfectly understandable response that you completely ignored. So what kind of response do you think you deserve? :rolleyes:

Probably not as polite of a response as the PM I just sent you :tiphat: