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Optimiser 09-05-2018 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3783379)
He has a Quaife. It’s listed in the first post.
Apologies, I didn't notice that. :icon14:

I still wonder if a clutch type Cusco with the 1.5 setup is more forgiving controlling the rear end when lifting off the accelerator than a gear type quaife LSD?

2011 Nismo#91 09-05-2018 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Optimiser (Post 3783384)
Apologies, I didn't notice that. :icon14:

I still wonder if a clutch type Cusco with the 1.5 setup is more forgiving controlling the rear end when lifting off the accelerator than a gear type quaife LSD?
Probably has a lot to do in how the clutch diff is setup. It can be an aggressive or a gentle depending on the spring and clutch selection.

Optimiser 09-06-2018 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3783428)
Probably has a lot to do in how the clutch diff is setup. It can be an aggressive or a gentle depending on the spring and clutch selection.
With my setup when I have got the tail out from applying too much power and breaking traction, as I lift off the power and quickly too, the rear end quickly straightens itself and that's with the VDC button off in wet or dry conditions. I have gotten away with a lot. ;)

shadow85 09-06-2018 06:27 PM
So it seems I got -2° camber on the rears, thats thr best the alighnment centre said they could do.

I am now thinking of purchasing a reae camber kit to adjust it back to 0. I have been told this will be a sound move to regain some traction under WOT?

redondoaveb 09-06-2018 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Optimiser (Post 3783574)
With my setup when I have got the tail out from applying too much power and breaking traction, as I lift off the power and quickly too, the rear end quickly straightens itself and that's with the VDC button off in wet or dry conditions. I have gotten away with a lot. ;)
Isn't that the yaw sensor taking over?

Spooler 09-06-2018 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3783745)
Isn't that the yaw sensor taking over?
Not with a 1.5 or 2 way clutch diff.

Ventruck 09-06-2018 07:13 PM
tbh I find this car can rotate/snap over a bit quick. Even in video-games it was depicted to do such

I remember when I switched to EcuTek's TC, set that to like, nothing, and then pulled out of a parking lot I typically put some gas into since I'm trying to get on before cross traffic comes again. VDC light never came on on the previous instances so I really didn't think it was ever too much power going down yet.

Luckily didn't eat it, but kinda went like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKA0GUJ3E2g

PEPI 09-06-2018 07:15 PM
Thread should be locked and thrown away.
SA roads are crap at the best of times - this dickhead is going to kill/injure someone one day.

redondoaveb 09-06-2018 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3783749)
Not with a 1.5 or 2 way clutch diff.
I didn't realize that he had a clutch diff. But unless the yaw sensor is disabled isn't it still going to try to control a fishtail?

Spooler 09-06-2018 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3783756)
I didn't realize that he had a clutch diff. But unless the yaw sensor is disabled isn't it still going to try to control a fishtail?
Yes it can. I have found it to be less intrusive with my OSG LSD.

Rusty 09-06-2018 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3783756)
I didn't realize that he had a clutch diff. But unless the yaw sensor is disabled isn't it still going to try to control a fishtail?
With the VDC off. It is still active some what. When the rear starts to come around. It will apply a rear brake caliper to straighten the car out. Usually in the wrong direction. With the YAW sensor disabled. It eliminates this.

redondoaveb 09-06-2018 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3783765)
With the VDC off. It is still active some what. When the rear starts to come around. It will apply a rear brake caliper to straighten the car out. Usually in the wrong direction. With the YAW sensor disabled. It eliminates this.
Exactly. I never drive with my VDC on, I still need to install a switch for my yaw sensor.

shadow85 09-06-2018 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3783765)
With the VDC off. It is still active some what. When the rear starts to come around. It will apply a rear brake caliper to straighten the car out. Usually in the wrong direction. With the YAW sensor disabled. It eliminates this.
So if I disable the YAW sensor will it be beneficial to my situation, or should ECUTEK TC be handling everything?

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Originally Posted by PEPI (Post 3783752)
Thread should be locked and thrown away.
SA roads are crap at the best of times - this dickhead is going to kill/injure someone one day.
Haha listen to this clown, he has missed the whole thread and then comes on and talks trash. I don't run WOT on open public roads you retard.

Oh wait your from NT, makes sense nobody gives a **** about you.

xsamis 09-09-2018 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 3780894)
I have a quaife diff and a TT setup

The other night, I tried a WOT pull for the first time with VDC off.

In the middle of the 3rd gear pull the car violently and suddenly spun to the right and then to the left before I made it come to a halt. It scared the **** out of me!

Why did that happen? I have Pilot Super sports 275/35 on the rears and I was going in a straight line under WOT, then around the 4000RPM mark it almost felt like someone grabbed my steering wheel and threw it to the right and then to the left!! There was no gradual loss of control sliding etc, it just happend so suddenly out of nowhere.

Anyone else experience this before?
New tires dawg, 305 rear 275 front, MPS4S is a good start or r888r's

shadow85 09-09-2018 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by xsamis (Post 3784185)
New tires dawg, 305 rear 275 front, MPS4S is a good start or r888r's
Thanks for the input bro, appreciate it.

So the MPS4S, would that tyre be similar in grip to the PSS?

So is the PSS 275/35 rear really not that good enough for TT power?

What a waste of money that was then :(

jwick 09-09-2018 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 3784311)
Thanks for the input bro, appreciate it.



So the MPS4S, would that tyre be similar in grip to the PSS?



So is the PSS 275/35 rear really not that good enough for TT power?



What a waste of money that was then :(

You can’t buy enough tire for a TT car. You need to spend your time/$ on two things, suspension mods and driver education. The latter being the most important.

You need to heed the responses of the guys that track their car and ignore most everyone else.

Rusty 09-09-2018 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 3784311)
Thanks for the input bro, appreciate it.

So the MPS4S, would that tyre be similar in grip to the PSS?

So is the PSS 275/35 rear really not that good enough for TT power?

What a waste of money that was then :(
The PS4S is a step above the PSS. It's a good tire. Not a waste of money. I've done trackdays with them. :driving:

Rusty 09-09-2018 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 3783776)
So if I disable the YAW sensor will it be beneficial to my situation, or should ECUTEK TC be handling everything?



Haha listen to this clown, he has missed the whole thread and then comes on and talks trash. I don't run WOT on open public roads you retard.

Oh wait your from NT, makes sense nobody gives a **** about you.
In your case. I would let the ECUtek handle the TC. This way, you can dial in the amount of control you want.

Rusty 09-09-2018 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3784312)
You can’t buy enough tire for a TT car. You need to spend your time/$ on two things, suspension mods and driver education. The latter being the most important.

You need to heed the responses of the guys that track their car and ignore most everyone else.
So true. How many threads was started on this subject.

shadow85 09-10-2018 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3784312)
You can’t buy enough tire for a TT car. You need to spend your time/$ on two things, suspension mods and driver education. The latter being the most important.

You need to heed the responses of the guys that track their car and ignore most everyone else.
Could you please write me down a list of suspension mods I shouod consider? Thnx

Hotrodz 09-10-2018 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 3784583)
Could you please write me down a list of suspension mods I shouod consider? Thnx
Your not serious are you...just read back through this thread. You need to stop trolling and move on all your questions have been asked and answered. Trips should close this thread!

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Rusty 09-10-2018 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3784595)
Your not serious are you...just read back through this thread. You need to stop trolling and move on all your questions have been asked and answered. Trips should close this thread!

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Can't do it until I post this. :rofl2:

JARblue 09-10-2018 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 3784583)
Could you please write me down a list of suspension mods I shouod consider? Thnx
SPL catalog should do the trick...

http://www.4estgimp.com/HL2/sigs/IBTL-Crocodile.jpg

shadow85 09-10-2018 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3784616)
SPL catalog should do the trick...

http://www.4estgimp.com/HL2/sigs/IBTL-Crocodile.jpg
LOL what does this **** mean??

But ok, I'll re-read the thread!

Rusty 09-10-2018 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3784616)
SPL catalog should do the trick...

http://www.4estgimp.com/HL2/sigs/IBTL-Crocodile.jpg
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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 3784645)
LOL what does this **** mean??

But ok, I'll re-read the thread!
I.B.T.L. In Before The Lock. Before the mods lock the thread.

JARblue 09-10-2018 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 3784645)
But ok, I'll re-read the thread!
Maybe try others, too :rolleyes:


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