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jchammond 02-05-2017 01:58 AM

Unsure about motordyne; but if you go FI,,,be prepared to wait a while for them to be made...all of their exhaust system's are custom built & do fit well.

abm89 02-05-2017 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3612066)
Unsure about motordyne; but if you go FI,,,be prepared to wait a while for them to be made...all of their exhaust system's are custom built & do fit well.

Virtually no wait on my motordyne when i ordered it through Z1. I think The MD warehouse keeps some in stock.

If you plan on going with a low ride height, or if you have any extra modifications in the rear area (like the extended diff cover and rear anti-roll bar) the clearance is a bit limited with 3 inch piping. The area around my rear diff is crowded.

N/370Z 02-05-2017 07:26 AM

Well i dont want something thats gonna be hanging low as i have to dodge potholes every 5 ft when i drive around here, but i did also plan on lowering my z a few inches

Looks like i cant really go wrong with either the fi or md cbe. I dont plan on doing a whole lot of modding to the rear end(as im not sure what mods are available)

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N/370Z 02-05-2017 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3612066)
Unsure about motordyne; but if you go FI,,,be prepared to wait a while for them to be made...all of their exhaust system's are custom built & do fit well.

How long did you have to wait on yours?

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jchammond 02-05-2017 08:21 AM

mine took the full 12-weeks....they may be quicker on the turn-a-round now.
ordered 1/12/16,,,received 4/14/16 (13-weeks)
Love it & worth the wait.

N/370Z 02-05-2017 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3612093)
mine took the full 12-weeks....they may be quicker on the turn-a-round now.
ordered 1/12/16,,,received 4/14/16 (13-weeks)
Love it & worth the wait.

The hks kinda sparked my interest too but not sure how i feel about it..not sure i exactly want to wait a month either lol..im going to finding some dyno videos of the 2 and which have better results and go from there

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Ape Factory 02-05-2017 07:43 PM

If you're daily driving any distance, you'll want something that errs on the side of quiet (but still louder than stock) with no droning. The HKS would be a good choice in that regard because it's dead quiet at neutral throttle and when cruising on the highway but it'll scream nicely when at wide open throttle. I found the FI cat-back to be too loud honestly but it's a personal choice.

The other consideration is rasp. Some combinations of testpipes/high flow cats and certain exhausts produce rasp which many think sounds "cheap" but it's definitely not as pleasant-sounding as a smooth, deep exhaust note that sounds like ripping silk towards redline.

N/370Z 02-05-2017 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ape Factory (Post 3612287)
If you're daily driving any distance, you'll want something that errs on the side of quiet (but still louder than stock) with no droning. The HKS would be a good choice in that regard because it's dead quiet at neutral throttle and when cruising on the highway but it'll scream nicely when at wide open throttle. I found the FI cat-back to be too loud honestly but it's a personal choice.

The other consideration is rasp. Some combinations of testpipes/high flow cats and certain exhausts produce rasp which many think sounds "cheap" but it's definitely not as pleasant-sounding as a smooth, deep exhaust note that sounds like ripping silk towards redline.

Thats kind of what i want, i want something nice thatll turn heads but not too loud to where ill make my neighbors or others mad. I would like to try to minimze rasp and droning as much as possible so any suggestions is greatly appreciated, armytrix cbe doesnt sound too bad either so i also want to get results..not just all sound. Hks seems to have a bit of rasp now that im watching some vids, also i do plan on doing headers of some sort and motordyne has a nice set that im interested in...just hard making my mind up on what i want lol

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Sway 02-05-2017 09:33 PM

Some people might disagree with me but my favorite is hands down the GT Haus... no drone at cruising speeds, not too loud under 3k rpms so just driving around it's decently low and tame. But anything over 3k rpms and that thing screams! It's really loud when you stomp on it so it may not be for you, but I think it's perfect.

axmea? 02-05-2017 11:17 PM

Basic mods that'll bring out the goodies.......intake/exhaust, tune, nicer tires, oil cooler, and nicer pads. It's anything after this.

N/370Z 02-06-2017 08:19 AM

I think im going to go with fi cbe and invidia test pipes, or would you guys recommend fi long tube headers?

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Ape Factory 02-06-2017 09:04 AM

That'll be extremely loud. Just warning you now. I have a friend with a Motordyne Shockwave exhaust and their test pipes and I would not be able to drive it daily at all due to the decibel level and drone. Any aftermarket dual exhaust and test pipes (or long tube headers) will be a complete cop magnet from a mile away.

abm89 02-06-2017 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ape Factory (Post 3612403)
That'll be extremely loud. Just warning you now. I have a friend with a Motordyne Shockwave exhaust and their test pipes and I would not be able to drive it daily at all due to the decibel level and drone. Any aftermarket dual exhaust and test pipes (or long tube headers) will be a complete cop magnet from a mile away.

LOL that is my exact setup. While noise levels are subjective, I'll say the Motordyne is not that loud for daily driving, unless you're constantly doing pulls everywhere.


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Originally Posted by N/370Z (Post 3612394)
I think im going to go with fi cbe and invidia test pipes, or would you guys recommend fi long tube headers?

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If you go with the 18 inch resonators with the LTH from FI, it makes a good sound that isn't too loud. I've heard just about all the exhaust combinations you can think of. In order of loudness (quiet first):

Stock
Nismo S-Tune
Invidia - sounds good with test pipes, not too loud and no drone
HKS
FI
Motordyne - Sounds perfect stock. Add test pipes for more roar on WOT
GTHaus
Tomei - Wouldnt recommend for daily use.
Amuse R1000

I left comments on the systems i've run.

Ape Factory 02-06-2017 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by abm89 (Post 3612449)
LOL that is my exact setup. While noise levels are subjective, I'll say the Motordyne is not that loud for daily driving, unless you're constantly doing pulls everywhere.

Man I tell ya, I drove his car, G37 sedan, windows down, and I felt bad driving by other cars. He wanted to hear what his exhaust sounded like from behind in another vehicle so we swapped cars. I made sure to go through the rev range a bit but did not do any highway driving, just in-town acceleration stuff. He couldn't hear my exhaust at all, even from behind the wheel, because his car was so loud. Granted, I have a fairly quiet setup (FI RHFC and IPL dual exhaust). If I drive my car through the city and get on it, I'll see people turn around and look out of fear, LOL. Pedestrians.

We're going to record some sound comparisons sometime this week. I'll post a video here too.

N/370Z 02-06-2017 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by abm89 (Post 3612449)
LOL that is my exact setup. While noise levels are subjective, I'll say the Motordyne is not that loud for daily driving, unless you're constantly doing pulls everywhere.




If you go with the 18 inch resonators with the LTH from FI, it makes a good sound that isn't too loud. I've heard just about all the exhaust combinations you can think of. In order of loudness (quiet first):

Stock
Nismo S-Tune
Invidia - sounds good with test pipes, not too loud and no drone
HKS
FI
Motordyne - Sounds perfect stock. Add test pipes for more roar on WOT
GTHaus
Tomei - Wouldnt recommend for daily use.
Amuse R1000

I left comments on the systems i've run.

Im not worried about being little loud..just as long as its not obnoxious sounding, just looking for a nice deep tone thatll scream when i punch it(without sounding like crap) and with as little rasp as possibly, i dont mind a little drone as ive had it in about most my cars(ebay exhaust systems lol)

But like i said i also want performance too, not just all sound

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SgtGoldy 02-07-2017 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by N/370Z (Post 3612456)
Im not worried about being little loud..just as long as its not obnoxious sounding, just looking for a nice deep tone thatll scream when i punch it(without sounding like crap) and with as little rasp as possibly, i dont mind a little drone as ive had it in about most my cars(ebay exhaust systems lol)

But like i said i also want performance too, not just all sound

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the louder you are, the cooler you are.


Source:
I'm super loud.

jewelz 02-07-2017 08:33 AM

There's nothing cool about a loud and obnoxious sounding exhaust, IMHO.

SgtGoldy 02-07-2017 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jewelz (Post 3612804)
There's nothing cool about a loud and obnoxious sounding exhaust, IMHO.

You're super wrong jewelz... super duper wrong.

Chuck33079 02-07-2017 09:00 AM

If the car is loud, it better be fast. ;)

SgtGoldy 02-07-2017 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3612813)
If the car is loud, it better be fast. ;)

lol like those honda civics that be screaming and then you see them slowly creep past.

I got fast covered :tup:

Wilson2608 02-07-2017 09:09 AM

I have the stillen CBE and Z1 high flow cats. I love the sound. There's no annoying drone when cruising and it sounds awesome when you open it up! If you go with test pipes, you'll more than likely be getting drone when just crusing. ( don't know for a fact. some TP guys chime in on that.) it's all about what YOU want, there is no best or right answer.

Blue Z34 02-07-2017 10:24 AM

I have a 2015 Nismo.

Mods: Stillen Gen 3 intakes - $600, eBay test pipes - $115, Top Speed Pro-1 axle back exhaust - $300, ACT Lightweight Steel Flywheel (17.4lbs) - $400 (though I'm not sure this attributed to any power gains)

Finally I got my car dyno tuned at Dynosty. I baselined at 311whp on a Dynojet dyno before the tune. With my Ecutek tune I ended up at 325whp. The total cost of the tune including dyno time, tuning license, and tuner cable-which you don't need to purchase if you're getting it dyno tuned-was around $1,000. It would have been $300 cheaper had I opted to not buy the cable.

I've read stock Nismos usually dyno anywhere between 290-300whp. So for around $2k, give or take a few hundred dollars, you can add over 30whp with ease. Without a tune you could easily get over 300whp for around $1k. I hope this helps.

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N/370Z 02-07-2017 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Z34 (Post 3612841)
I have a 2015 Nismo.

Mods: Stillen Gen 3 intakes - $600, eBay test pipes - $115, Top Speed Pro-1 axle back exhaust - $300, ACT Lightweight Steel Flywheel (17.4lbs) - $400 (though I'm not sure this attributed to any power gains)

Finally I got my car dyno tuned at Dynosty. I baselined at 311whp on a Dynojet dyno before the tune. With my Ecutek tune I ended up at 325whp. The total cost of the tune including dyno time, tuning license, and tuner cable-which you don't need to purchase if you're getting it dyno tuned-was around $1,000. It would have been $300 cheaper had I opted to not buy the cable.

I've read stock Nismos usually dyno anywhere between 290-300whp. So for around $2k, give or take a few hundred dollars, you can add over 30whp with ease. Without a tune you could easily get over 300whp for around $1k. I hope this helps.

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Thats gonna be my biggest problem is finding somewhere that i can trust to tune my car correctly, im pretty much gonna go with either fi or md cbe with indivia or art test pipes, and stillen gen 3 cais

In all honestly im just looking to get as close to 320ish whp as i can get for around 2500ish(give or take a couple hundred)

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Wilson2608 02-07-2017 12:49 PM

Z1 motorsports(east coast) or specialty Z (west coast) imho.

N/370Z 02-07-2017 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilson2608 (Post 3612919)
Z1 motorsports(east coast) or specialty Z (west coast) imho.

Z1 would be for me but it looks like they are located in georgia, i live in the southeasten part of michigan

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Chuck33079 02-07-2017 01:30 PM

There's a lot of tuners who can tune you remotely.

N/370Z 02-07-2017 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3612934)
There's a lot of tuners who can tune you remotely.

What do you mean remotely? Sorry this will be my first tune on a car so im not very knowledgeable about that type of stuff

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N/370Z 02-07-2017 01:58 PM

Im ocd as well so ill end up being picky as to who tunes my car

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Chuck33079 02-07-2017 02:04 PM

You log a few runs on the car and email them to the tuner, who then sends you a map. You do that a couple of times and you're good. It's a NA Z with bolt-ons, there's just not that much to it.

BlackZeda 02-07-2017 03:35 PM

My favorite 3 mods so far are:

Oil cooler (Stillen)
Lightweight performance brake rotors (Z1)
LSD differential (Wavetrac)

abm89 02-07-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 3612971)
My favorite 3 mods so far are:

Oil cooler (Stillen)
Lightweight performance brake rotors (Z1)
LSD differential (Wavetrac)

That lathewerks shift knob tho...


I have one too :tup:

N/370Z 02-07-2017 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3612945)
You log a few runs on the car and email them to the tuner, who then sends you a map. You do that a couple of times and you're good. It's a NA Z with bolt-ons, there's just not that much to it.

Sounds a bit more complicated lol, but ill definitely look into it thanks

On a side note(to anyone)...with the a7, is there anyway the tc/vdc can be can tuned out to where i dont have to pull my brake light fuse to burn out? Havent really tried to burnout yet til i can afford new tires when i get my taxes but a few forums ive read said i have to pull the brake light fuse to be able to "fully" burnout

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SgtGoldy 02-07-2017 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by N/370Z (Post 3613094)
Sounds a bit more complicated lol, but ill definitely look into it thanks

On a side note(to anyone)...with the a7, is there anyway the tc/vdc can be can tuned out to where i dont have to pull my brake light fuse to burn out? Havent really tried to burnout yet til i can afford new tires when i get my taxes but a few forums ive read said i have to pull the brake light fuse to be able to "fully" burnout

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not confusing at all, super simple :tup:


wait.. you have to pull a fuse to burn out? In my G37 I was able to all day long by just switching VDC off.

N/370Z 02-08-2017 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SgtGoldy (Post 3613164)
not confusing at all, super simple :tup:


wait.. you have to pull a fuse to burn out? In my G37 I was able to all day long by just switching VDC off.

Im seeing "yes" and "no" answers, appearently some people were having problems doing burnouts because the tc would still kick in enough even with vdc off.

I know i for one, was stopped at a stop light and turned vdc off and got the tires to spin but not much, almost like the tc was still trying to turn on...but then again i didnt exactly floor it either lol

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SurfDog 02-08-2017 05:18 PM

Z1 Motorsport has the 400 hp kit which is all good

I love my quaife differential

I love my SS Braided brake lines

I love the Z1 big brakes upgrade (especially on track days)

I put in a lightweight flywheel (6mt only) it really helped the motor response. (Faster revving for shifting)

I recommend a tunable clutch pedal Or at least removal of helper spring

TAKE OUT YOUR STEERING LOCK!!!!!!!

SwissCheese 02-08-2017 09:46 PM

Are you planning on installing this stuff yourself, or will you be taking it to the shop? The intake and cat-back installs aren't bad. The test pipe install is a little more tricky, mainly for getting to the "demon bolt". Long tube headers will be pretty difficult and time consuming.

If you do get a tune, be sure to do that last.

N/370Z 02-09-2017 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SurfDog (Post 3613469)
Z1 Motorsport has the 400 hp kit which is all good

I love my quaife differential

I love my SS Braided brake lines

I love the Z1 big brakes upgrade (especially on track days)

I put in a lightweight flywheel (6mt only) it really helped the motor response. (Faster revving for shifting)

I recommend a tunable clutch pedal Or at least removal of helper spring

TAKE OUT YOUR STEERING LOCK!!!!!!!

Helper spring? What exactly is that? And what do you mean by turnable clutch pedal?

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N/370Z 02-09-2017 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SwissCheese (Post 3613571)
Are you planning on installing this stuff yourself, or will you be taking it to the shop? The intake and cat-back installs aren't bad. The test pipe install is a little more tricky, mainly for getting to the "demon bolt". Long tube headers will be pretty difficult and time consuming.

If you do get a tune, be sure to do that last.

Exhaust and cais yes, test pipes and further upgrades ill probably take to a shop, and if i can get a tune within a reasonable price around here ill get it for sure

How is the 400hp from z1? Is it 400whp or to the crank? Was looking at it before but was iffy...didnt really see many reviews on it

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SurfDog 02-12-2017 09:38 PM

whats the most basic mods for our cars?
 
I meant. TUNEABLE clutch pedal. Sorry that was a typo. It's a pedal that allows you to set pedal up exactly how you like it (engagement zone, freeboard take up rate... that kind of thing.)

Search for clutch helper spring here in the forum. It basically is a mod to help give more "feel" to your clutch.

I have a tuned pedal and I love it!!!

The 400 HP kit is crank hp. I put down 320 ish to the wheels. I love the kit but getting the down pipes in is a bit of a bitch. It can be done but a shop might be in order if you are not a DYI enthusiast!!!

N/370Z 02-13-2017 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SurfDog (Post 3614934)
I meant. TUNEABLE clutch pedal. Sorry that was a typo. It's a pedal that allows you to set pedal up exactly how you like it (engagement zone, freeboard take up rate... that kind of thing.)

Search for clutch helper spring here in the forum. It basically is a mod to help give more "feel" to your clutch.

I have a tuned pedal and I love it!!!

The 400 HP kit is crank hp. I put down 320 ish to the wheels. I love the kit but getting the down pipes in is a bit of a bitch. It can be done but a shop might be in order if you are not a DYI enthusiast!!!

Ill def check into that...does it help with the shift quickness?

For the 400 hp kit..am i able to use different downpipe as long as there the same i/d?

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