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SS_Firehawk 01-26-2017 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SG4247 (Post 3608214)
I would sure like to know more about the work done on the heads. Porting? Valve sizes? flow numbers? Who did the work..etc.

Im a NA guy myself, so very Im very interested in this thread!

There may be some good power to be had - in just the head work.

From what I understand, just valve springs and cams. Unless I was made of money, it would be difficult for me to take it all apart, port it, and put it all back together.

I most likely won't bump displacement considering the fact it's getting boosted down the road.

I understand what you're saying in terms of spinning the engine. My goal isn't to just spin it to the moon arbitrarily. I don't remember the formula, but you can determine your torque multiplication factor from one gear to the next to see at what rpm it's best to shift.

I'm certain that whatever rpm that is will be higher than before. Martin is a great tuner in my back yard, so he will most likely be handling the tuning aspect. I just dont like running in blind and run around ignorant during the process :)

Headers and retune are next as I plan how best to take the follow on steps. All the intake, exhaust, ported manifolds and TB's are already installed, just need retuned after Elmo and I get them on.

Jhill 01-26-2017 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 3608288)
From what I understand, just valve springs and cams. Unless I was made of money, it would be difficult for me to take it all apart, port it, and put it all back together.

I most likely won't bump displacement considering the fact it's getting boosted down the road.

I understand what you're saying in terms of spinning the engine. My goal isn't to just spin it to the moon arbitrarily. I don't remember the formula, but you can determine your torque multiplication factor from one gear to the next to see at what rpm it's best to shift.

I'm certain that whatever rpm that is will be higher than before. Martin is a great tuner in my back yard, so he will most likely be handling the tuning aspect. I just dont like running in blind and run around ignorant during the process :)

Headers and retune are next as I plan how best to take the follow on steps. All the intake, exhaust, ported manifolds and TB's are already installed, just need retuned after Elmo and I get them on.

I think when I was digging around at one time to see flow numbers of the head they were somewhere in the mid 300cfm range which is pretty dang impressive, which is probably why you don't see anyone doing port and polish jobs on these heads. Sorta like the Honda heads that are really hard to get gains and usually when you get in cfm you lose velocity and that sucks.

blueranger 01-26-2017 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3608058)
To answer your fueling question - a return setup with an Aeromotive 340 and 1000cc injectors should get you to 600whp on E85... I am sure some of the E85 guys on here can chime in and confirm or correct. You could also consult phunk he will know 100%.

I would not recommend the Aeromotive 340. I had fuel cuts running this pump and resolved the issue with the Walbro 450 pump. Also running 1000cc injectors (630-650whp).

SS_Firehawk 01-28-2017 06:00 AM

Alright, I know I'm missing something; things I still need to buy, minus small things...

Arp L19 head studs
New head gaskets (OEM?)
Call Phunk for fueling (E85 compatible rated at 600-700whp [future F.I. req])
Spend $$$ for install (I can hear my wallet crying)

... it just hit me, but I'm most likely going to need a new flywheel unless I want to see it self destruct. Might as well do the clutch at that point.

I didn't plan on tinkering with the bottom end unless absolutely necessary... Just concerned about the main bearings. It's a street car, so it's life will mostly be spent in traffic with some spirited driving. She will see the occasional drag strip and track day.

I have everything else covered.
ATI damper, oil pump gears, Z1 headers, ported TB's and manifolds, normal bolt ons, tuning...

The perfectionist in me wants to port the heads, but my wallet tells me it's foolish, considering they're all put together and won't be worth much more than a few hp lol. And that leads to a slippery slope of financial pain. Because then I'm going to want the EPS TB's, port them, upgrade the intakes to 2.75"-3", and more dumb, expensive stuff that's just a tiny bit better than what I have.

I'll update my journal when I get back stateside next month and have actual pictures to post.

bcfromfl 01-28-2017 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 3608099)
This is Z #2, I know about pain and headaches. My last car was a wonderful nightmare

I've enjoyed reading and re-reading your build thread on your amazing twin SC Z #1. If you don't mind me asking, what made it a nightmare, and what considerations made you decide to go TT? Thanks!

SS_Firehawk 01-28-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bcfromfl (Post 3608906)
I've enjoyed reading and re-reading your build thread on your amazing twin SC Z #1. If you don't mind me asking, what made it a nightmare, and what considerations made you decide to go TT? Thanks!

There always seemed to be a reason why the car was down on power, not by a little bit, but by 150+hp down. First it was the pulleys, then it was the bypass valves, then the stock tensioner pulleys went out. The AC compressor started acting up. I had gotten most of it fixed, but then when I got a decent asking price, I decided to go for it and learn from that. Money was tight and it allowed me to reduce the running costs until times were better.

Turbos on this platform have gotten to a point where it's mature and a reliable way to make power. To do the same with a supercharged kit, it's unknown territory at over 580whp. The Z doesn't need 500lbft of torque and centrifugal superchargers did great at keeping torque from reaching stupid levels. I would seriously consider supercharging again if it could take this car to turbo hp levels (600-650whp). Idk, honestly, it might be the better way to go. I'll cross that bridge when I get there lol.

nomodsjk 01-28-2017 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 3608076)
If I'm gonna be looking at cranks, I'd be looking at a displacement increase too lol, and that would be bad arse

Thats actually what i have...the bryant racing stroker kit. Im so excited about seeing what kind of numbers this thing makes. I saw brians post on Facebook. You got a hell of a deal. I wish to god he would have decided to part out a couple months ago it could have saved me a crap ton of money. Good luck with your build man im excited for you


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