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KrnAndy 04-24-2016 10:13 PM

Lacking power
 
So only had this car for about 2 months now, picked it up with no problems, great history, has 80k miles got it for 14k (neighbor's dad moved away.)
but all the details aside he's not an aggressive driver and the car was in near perfect condition!

I did notice though, when the car is cold or warming up the power on the throttle feels as it should, crisp!

when the car warms up, (exhaust sounds a bit quieter too, I have aam short tails)

oil temp is about 200 (normal I'm guessing)

the car feels sluggish. throttle response is a bit slower and car revs slower as well

Any idea what it could be?

I don't think I'm in limp mode, I'm not limited to a set rpm 3.5k or 5k
No codes, cel or anything

EzDz 04-25-2016 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KrnAndy (Post 3467275)
So only had this car for about 2 months now, picked it up with no problems, great history, has 80k miles got it for 14k (neighbor's dad moved away.)
but all the details aside he's not an aggressive driver and the car was in near perfect condition!

I did notice though, when the car is cold or warming up the power on the throttle feels as it should, crisp!

when the car warms up, (exhaust sounds a bit quieter too, I have aam short tails)

oil temp is about 200 (normal I'm guessing)

the car feels sluggish. throttle response is a bit slower and car revs slower as well

Any idea what it could be?

I don't think I'm in limp mode, I'm not limited to a set rpm 3.5k or 5k
No codes, cel or anything

Get the cats off the car, a full catback, and intakes itll wake right up :tup:

SouthArk370Z 04-25-2016 08:39 AM

I'd take a look at the Intake Air Temperature (IAT). The ECM starts limiting power at a fairly low temp. IAT is measured at the MAFs and can be looked at using an ODB/CAN scanner.

2011 Nismo#91 04-25-2016 08:59 AM

Yeah, unfortunately it's normal. Sprint booster or a tune are the only options to solve it, or keep the revs higher. It's something to do with warm engine and emissions that Nissan messed with it. Look up "the370 throttle response" in google and you'll see a lot of people with the same issue.

imjello 04-25-2016 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3467458)
I'd take a look at the Intake Air Temperature (IAT). The ECM starts limiting power at a fairly low temp. IAT is measured at the MAFs and can be looked at using an ODB/CAN scanner.

i agree with this, did you modify the intake at all? my IAT stays 10 deg higher then ambient temp ( i monitor daily with SCAN gauge 2 ). Just removing my heat blocking intake boxes on my Stillen intakes raised the intake temp 20 deg. The Z has heat issues for sure.

FWIW; My car oil temp sits at 180 in till i start getting on it then it will raise in the 200, 220 if i stay on it. i do not have an oil cooler

KrnAndy 04-25-2016 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by imjello (Post 3467480)
i agree with this, did you modify the intake at all? my IAT stays 10 deg higher then ambient temp ( i monitor daily with SCAN gauge 2 ). Just removing my heat blocking intake boxes on my Stillen intakes raised the intake temp 20 deg. The Z has heat issues for sure.

FWIW; My car oil temp sits at 180 in till i start getting on it then it will raise in the 200, 220 if i stay on it. i do not have an oil cooler

Nope everything is stock except the short tails!
But thanks everyone! It feels a bit better knowing it's a manufacturers problem,
Definitely looking to get hfc, gen 3s
And ecuteck! And a oil cooler ofc,

Just wondering, are the camshaft or crankshaft sensors been a problem for this car? As it did with the 350z and g35?
I've had both cars in the past and oil gunk would shut off the car or limit power at times

EzDz 04-25-2016 03:55 PM

The heat problems are from the cats being directly under the engine. I switched to ppe long tubes and my oil temps dropped to a consistent 200 when they were 225 prior. Added mishi oil cooler and its 180.

imjello 04-25-2016 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EzDz (Post 3467767)
The heat problems are from the cats being directly under the engine. I switched to ppe long tubes and my oil temps dropped to a consistent 200 when they were 225 prior. Added mishi oil cooler and its 180.

very interesting find! do you feel test pipes would also have a similar effect?

KrnAndy 04-26-2016 01:12 AM

Had to look deeeeeep into the forums, but i found it!
I'm 70% sure I have the same symptoms that other people were having as well.

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...e-problem.html

I'm not mechanic but I couldn't find a diy or anything, how could I fix my "brake switch"?

synolimit 04-26-2016 03:58 AM

Older VQ's have the oil galley issue.

imjello 04-26-2016 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by KrnAndy (Post 3468277)
Had to look deeeeeep into the forums, but i found it!
I'm 70% sure I have the same symptoms that other people were having as well.

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...e-problem.html

I'm not mechanic but I couldn't find a diy or anything, how could I fix my "brake switch"?

http://www.the370z.com/664697-post50.html <--- this is linked to post #50

Try this first, the user pushed the pins back into place to resolve

SouthArk370Z 04-26-2016 06:42 AM

If imjello's suggestion about the pins doesn't work, see the FSM for switch adjustment procedures.

EzDz 04-26-2016 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imjello (Post 3467808)
very interesting find! do you feel test pipes would also have a similar effect?

Same effect forsure. The heatshields and cats just soak up heat and it sits there. Its not a fix to oil temp issues but it helps a lot.

KrnAndy 04-26-2016 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imjello (Post 3468304)
http://www.the370z.com/664697-post50.html <--- this is linked to post #50

Try this first, the user pushed the pins back into place to resolve

wow! thank you so much!

KrnAndy 04-26-2016 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 3468284)
Older VQ's have the oil galley issue.

When you refer to the older VQs are you referring to the DE's? (G35/350z)
or the earlier models of the 370z? I have an 09


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