Mobil 1/Redline
 

Hey guys, im trying to get everyones takes on oil, im not going to waste my money on royal purple again, trust me the power differential is not noticable, so im stuck between Mobil 1 full synthetic and redline.

any takes?

my VVEL runs on mobil 1 syn and no problems.

These posts have been beat up pretty bad. There should be tons in archives. There is also a bunch in bobistheoilguy. There was a recent posting on Ester oil in the general area that talks about several oils including your oils and Group 111-Group V oils in general. I would say: do research, pick a good full synthetic, and run it and get some oil testing done to see how it is holding up...

BlackStone is a good place to test the oil.

Power differential between oils will never be noticable.

Out of those two you mentioned, I would say Redline.

However, its Amsoil for me.

I've only been researching synthetic oils since the recent purchase of my z, so take this with a grain of salt.

If you're spending money for power, put it towards tuning, intakes or exhaust....not oil. You're not paying $6-10 a quart for power, you're paying for a better quality engine lubricant that lubricates better and protects for much longer durations.

One of the few differences between Mobil 1 and other oils like RP, Redline and Amsoil, is the amount and/or quality of the additives, including the Nissan-recommended esters. Mobil 1's site says the following of their oil:

Redline, RP and Amsoil are all very open about the quality and amount of additives used in their oil.

I believe the break down is as such, based on about 10 minutes of googling (please correct me if I'm wrong):

Castrol - Group III base with (not sure what group) additives
Mobil 1 - Group III base with Group IV/V additives
Mobil 1 Extended Perf. - Group IV base
RP - Group IV/Group IV blend
Amsoil - Group IV base with Group V additives
Redline - Group V

A google search or 2 can ambigously lay out the differences between the groups, however from what little bit of evidence we have...all 3 provide sufficient lubrication for the engines in our Zs and you should not have any problems stemming from the usage of any of the above.

Pretty happy with Redline :tup:

went with the Mobil 1 guys.....can already feel the smoother ride compared to the conventional........no suprise there

When you say compared to conventional, do you mean compared to the Nissan Ester (conventional with Ester) or another type of conventional? thanks

Motul 300v

Why support the French while they never support the U.S..?I hate the French,they are the most selfish persons on earth.!

While I'm no fan of the French myself, I have to ask: With that logic, why did you even buy a 370Z??? You realize that Nissan is 44% owned by Renault, right? Renault bailed out Nissan ten years ago. Renault is a French company. Do you see a problem here?

Redline FTW, especially if you push the car hard.

I have always used Mobile 1... but my last change there was a nice deal on Royal Purple: 5 quarts and the oil filter for what the 4 quart bottle of Mobile 1 cost.... so i said screw it lets see what all the hype is about...


Dude... this stuff is purple... Like in the color purple. I always thought royal purple was just a name that came out of nowhere... (i get entertained by things like that)

anyways... I have not noticed any difference at all between the Mobile 1 or RP... both work well, both smell good, and both will only be in the car for 3,000 miles.

Stupid comment. Freedom Fries, anyone? Nissan is what, half-French owned?

France opposed the invasion of Iraq. Who was right?

If not for France, there would be no USA. You know that, yes?

Sorry to keep this guy's OT post going, but this kind of sh*t pisses me off.

As long as it's classified as an "ester" oil, you're doing fine. Both are, BTW (yes, flamers, I did my homework and checked!) I got a sweet deal on Mobil 1 ($4.95/qt. with NO excise tax!). I change it every 7,500k 'cause I'm a conservative driver--60 y.o. I treat her with T.L.C.!
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Can you provide a link to where Mobil 1 is listed as having esters?

I might be mistaken, but I think its one of their high mileage formulations.

Mobil 1 ? The World?s Leading Synthetic Motor Oil Brand ? Official Global Website (check the 5W30 product details).

The word ester does not appear for any of their three synthetic 5W-30 formulations. You said you did the research, so please show us EXACTLY where Mobil claims that their 5W-30 formulation -- any of them -- contain esters.

These links go directly to the Product Data Sheets for each of their synthetic 5W-30 formulations.

Mobil 1 5W-30
Mobil 1 High Mileage Oils
Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30

Now this is interesting. I just found this FAQ on Mobil's site:

https://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English...n_Engines.aspx

Their answer seems kinda dodgy to me. It "usually" includes esters???

I don't think the base M1 has esters according to this, it a group III mineral oil (PAO) with Alkylated Naphthalenes.

Mobil 1 no esters - Bob Is The Oil Guy

Nah im not pushing the car that hard, mobil 1 is working real nice

PAO is actually a 100% synthetic base stock. I think at one point M1 was using a mix of group 3 and PAO.

My bad. PAO is short for poly-alpha-olefin, which is a Group IV. It is believed that M1 5-30W is a blend of group III and group IV oils.

Go with redline. Great syn oil and redline states on their site that esters are included in 5w30 formula. With m1 you have no idea....they are too classified with the formulation....as if one of us is going to reverse engineer their formula...lol.

[QUOTE=semtex;285750]The word ester does not appear for any of their three synthetic 5W-30 formulations. You said you did the research, so please show us EXACTLY where Mobil claims that their 5W-30 formulation -- any of them -- contain esters.

These links go directly to the Product Data Sheets for each of their synthetic 5W-30 formulations.

Mobil 1 5W-30
Mobil 1 High Mileage Oils
Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30[/QUOTE

https://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English...n_Engines.aspx]

"We have not been able to get much information on the Nissan Ester Oil but our analysis indicates that it is part or full synthetic oil. Many synthetic oils, including Mobil 1, contain a variety of synthetic fluids, and usually this includes esters."

LOL, that statement could not be more vague. It suggests that many manufacturers may use esters but in no way commits that Mobil 1 does. I'm sure they do use some but I have to laugh at their data sheets.

I'm thinking since they said "including Mobil 1", they meant "including Mobil 1".

Agree about their data sheets, they don't exactly give away the formulas. Of course, they do not contain the Magic Nissan Nanoparticles, so the oil is entirely useless. :stirthepot:

Engine lubricating oils require the presence of additives to protect the engine from wear. For almost forty years, the principal antiwear additive for engine lubricating oils has been zinc dialkyldithiophosphate (ZDDP). However, ZDDP must be used in concentrations of 1.4 wt. % or greater to be effective.
Pennzoil Platinum contains 3.00% of Zinc alkyl dithiophosphate (ester).
I use Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30 and highly recommend it.


http://www.epc.shell.com/Docs/GSAP_msds_00018715.PDF

Lubricating oil containing an alkyl alkoxyalkylxanthate and zinc dialkyldithiophosphate - US Patent 5026492 Description

You can not go wrong with Redline.


Steve you realize we, as in the US, returned the favor during WWII (they had a small problem with some fella's called Nazi's)! I have zero issues with anyone complaining about France. You also realize France is the major contributor towards a nuclear Iran. Could you imagine a nuclear capable Iran. My appologies to the OT, but this kinda sh*t pisses me off as well.

I say let them have 'em...they'll blow themselves up long before they can manage to blow anyone else up.

:roflpuke2:

Or the Israeli's will...;)

Back to our regularly scheduled thread! :tup:

Wow, I was just looking for opinions on the best oil, and within two pages of the thread it's nazi's and French politics.
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Problem: There are so many threads on this forum dealing with this subject, it's been beaten to death. Three times. Maybe more.

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