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MAMotorsports 08-09-2017 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Carbon (Post 3683475)
How does this compare to version 1


Sadly we switched our dyno since we have last done a C1 set, im going to try and get a car in here to do a run with and have accurate info!




Thank you for all the kind words everyone, glad we could finally make this happen!



There are a few sets in stock and more are being made, place your orders here!

MA Motorsports | JIM WOLF TECHNOLOGY




Thanks
-Daelen

chuckie311 08-09-2017 06:39 PM

Even though these are on my to do list next year... had to buy now":happydance:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAMotorsports (Post 3683700)
Sadly we switched our dyno since we have last done a C1 set, im going to try and get a car in here to do a run with and have accurate info!




Thank you for all the kind words everyone, glad we could finally make this happen!



There are a few sets in stock and more are being made, place your orders here!

MA Motorsports | JIM WOLF TECHNOLOGY




Thanks
-Daelen


SS_Firehawk 08-09-2017 06:50 PM

I have everything ported on my intake side except the heads of course. I'm also running the Z1 intakes, but just ordered the oversized filters. I'm wondering if the restriction is the CAI or the upper, lower, or TB's. I'm seriously interested. My Wife; not so much lol

James10694 08-09-2017 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 3683759)
I have everything ported on my intake side except the heads of course. I'm also running the Z1 intakes, but just ordered the oversized filters. I'm wondering if the restriction is the CAI or the upper, lower, or TB's. I'm seriously interested. My Wife; not so much lol

I think it's the intake. If I recall correctly, the guy with the dry sump had 3 inch intakes and a 3 inch exhaust. He also had the manifold. Maybe phunk will be done with his soon ;)

derraj06 08-09-2017 10:10 PM

I have already spoken with phunk about his manifold and my application as I chat with him often. He's not of the opinion that his manifold would produce any significant gains at this point. The factory manifold design is actually very good as evident by it still making power above redline with these cams. The issue is getting air into the manifold currently. Is that intake piping? It's likely a part of it. Is it TB diameter? Also likely. There's also a decent chance selective porting of the upper and perhaps lower can yield some gains as well.

I'll be working with Daelen to test once we can decide what the next step is. Personally, I'm gathering a list of options for the TBs and intake piping. It's a game of matching all the parts for a given goal for me.

Elmo370z 08-10-2017 02:35 AM

Awesome sauce. You could go with a Bryant racing crank and forged internals. Bump the compression up 11:5 or something higher if you have a steady supply of E. add in some cylinder head work to support higher revs or get a bigger cam something like the jun 288??? Maybe??

derraj06 08-10-2017 09:02 AM

Yeah, we've talked over this engine for a long time and some of those parts are still on list of things we could try. The crank is likely to happen but there are other options currently. If all goes to plan I'll likely build a new short block with some sort of increased compression and go flex fuel for the street. That's the easy part, it is just a matter of budget and timing. The head work is a bit more tedious. As of today there are not parts to do what I want to do, similar to these C2 cams not existing. I"m stubborn and do not want to give up the VHR heads until they simply cannot do what I want to do. Lucky for me I think MA is curious enough to keep working on solutions.

As for the Jun cams, I talked to Jun about them for a while. Without a similar short block build to how they tested them, they did not recommend using them. That was surprising to me.

derraj06 08-10-2017 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 3683759)
I have everything ported on my intake side except the heads of course. I'm also running the Z1 intakes, but just ordered the oversized filters. I'm wondering if the restriction is the CAI or the upper, lower, or TB's. I'm seriously interested. My Wife; not so much lol

I am looking into if any of my friends still have some ported parts I can swap on and test. I've had a ported plenum before and it did not test well on the dyno even after being tuned for it. My guess was lack of velocity. I'd also like to get my hands on a set of larger TBs to try but I don't have anyone local to bribe into letting me swap them over and see what happens.

lj909 08-10-2017 10:01 AM

I've got a set of the EPS 70mm throttles combined with AAM intakes. I can tell you they do make more power.

Juso 08-10-2017 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports (Post 3683699)
Correct!



Nothing other than listed honestly, I will be doing a 7at in a week or two so I will update with results at that time alos!




Lol yeah, it can hurt some feelings thats for sure!

Well what else would be ideal to have installed while the engine is out I guess is the question I meant to ask

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MAMotorsports 08-10-2017 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3683858)
Awesome sauce. You could go with a Bryant racing crank and forged internals. Bump the compression up 11:5 or something higher if you have a steady supply of E. add in some cylinder head work to support higher revs or get a bigger cam something like the jun 288??? Maybe??


Stock compression on the VHR is 11.0:1 --- 11.5 would not see much of a gain really. 12.5:1 Would be where I would like to go on an NA engine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juso (Post 3683960)
Well what else would be ideal to have installed while the engine is out I guess is the question I meant to ask

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Pretty much the same package we did on Jarreds honestly.

Cams
Springs
Oil galley Gaskets
Water pump
(If mileage is high, timing components)
Oil pump


If you do not already have headers on the car, with the engine out it makes life much much easier.



-Daelen

chuckie311 08-10-2017 11:27 AM

here is what i have on my list of to dos so far..planning this for April or May of next year

JWT Stage 2 cams
suckerpunch upgraded oil pump

Stage 1 heads from import part pros
Heads inspected and cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
3 angle valve job
New OEM Valve stem seals installed
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set for stock cams
Heads prepped and assembled

+1mm oversized valves

ported lower plenum

change plugs on car

change water pump

inspect timing chain

then a ecutek retune

Whjaxn17 08-10-2017 01:44 PM

:drool: great work and results. I'm definitely adding these to the list. Can't make it stretch at the moment, but I'm definitely in for future reference. Keep it up guys

Also, Derraj, PM sent

MAMotorsports 08-10-2017 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckie311 (Post 3683991)
here is what i have on my list of to dos so far..planning this for April or May of next year

JWT Stage 2 cams
suckerpunch upgraded oil pump

Stage 1 heads from import part pros
Heads inspected and cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
3 angle valve job
New OEM Valve stem seals installed
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set for stock cams
Heads prepped and assembled

+1mm oversized valves

ported lower plenum

change plugs on car

change water pump

inspect timing chain

then a ecutek retune



Shoot me a PM, would love to chat about the build and see if I could be of any help. We may have some options that would work for what you are looking to do.


-Daelen

MAMotorsports 08-15-2017 03:11 PM

Group buy posted!


http://www.the370z.com/group-buys/12...ml#post3685430


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