Well that just kinda sucks.

Just because some of us were waiting for the announcement of the product for sale, means we won't get it at all????

Does this mean that you won't be offering ANY parts for the 370Z from your website?

Do I need to look elsewhere? ..... since my first preference is to support forum sponsors?

:mad:

at least 20 people

From the first post:

"The stock mount uses a soft rubber that is liquid filled. While it's up and down durometer rating (stiffness) is sufficient, there is alot of play side to side. This promotes that rubbery, almost vague feeling things have gear to gear. The solution for us will be a direct replacement, bolt in, urethane transmission mount that has consistent stiffness for both lateral and medial movement. You will not need to press anything or modify anything in any way. The upper portion of the mount will be cnc'd aluminum, just like the OEM unit, and the urethane section will come preinstalled so it's ready to put into the car. It will include all the required hardware as well as detailed instructions. This will benefit both the casual street driver and the more aggressive track driver equally with noticeably quicker shifts without all the slop."

No not at all - if you (the community) wants it, we'll build it. But I cannot justify doing a run yet because there was seemingly next to 0 enthusiasm expressed either on this site, or on my350Z, where we made a similar announcement in the 370Z section. When a product we are interested in making receives almost no enthusiasm from the community, that tells me the community doesn't want it. Perhaps I am wrong, and I hope I am - but the future of it will be up to the community itself. I certainly don't have any need to shell out time, and resources only to be stuck looking at shelves full of parts that aren't selling. That's part of the reason we decided to suspend our sponsorship, because in the 3 months we were here, we netted 1 single sale, and that sale was for less than $100 worth of parts (gross). The ends need to justify the means, and when you can't even realize a profit from a very small net investment, especially relative to the time we spent addressing peoples questions (we had more posts in the tech sections than we had classified posts), then that gives us a message. My own personal take was that the site has far too many sponsors as it is, but far too few participants otherwise. But, that is a separate discussion :)

Any products we offer for the 370Z are always listed right on our website, and are generally announced on our blog as well.

could you give us an estimate (within 50 bucks or so) how much the mount would cost and then i suggest we have people post up if they would SERIOUSLY buy it. Not a group buy or anything don't want to break forum law just a loose poll of interest. Nice job Z1 on getting on the forums and reaching out to buyers, and you have some nice products, but we are a highly "show me" group of people who don't just suck up parts because they say aftermarket. We just need more info on pricing, effect on driveability, durability, things like that. If you had a video or something that showed the reduction in movement of the transmission while driving it (i dunno tape a camcorder up under a 350z or something before and after the mount install you would probably see quite a bit more interest.

Edit: it might be even more attractive if you offered a 3 piece kit with urethane engine mounts too to really plant the torque and sell it as an all inclusive mounting solution.

As for the single sale- you guys mainly resell parts made by other companies for our cars and a lot of the some of the other vendors kill you on price :twocents: I actually have you favorited in my browser and some time this year or next i will be dropping the cash for a quaif diff. Also you're test pipes while functional aren't terribly impressive. not trying to offend you just calling it as i see it (polishing isn't even an option?)

From First Post:

Damn I was hoping to get in on this when it was released.. You guys don't have any left in stock? I know you meantioned a few cars had them.

I think you need to work on your marketing skills, mate. You announced this months ago and never really followed up on it, then someone asks for updates and you announce it isn't gonna happen. :shakes head:

Ditto.. I didn't post any interest because you said it was coming out. I didn't think the project would be scrapped half way through.. I posted for updates cuz it's been a while and the thread looked inactive. I did plan on buying one.

1slow370z - MSRP was posted in the first post - a discounted rate might be considered for the first batch of them if the demand is there, we're not opposed to that

We've looked into the motor mounts too, and have a CAD file already prepared, though we have not figured out a way to improve on the factory pieces yet short of full solid mounts, which I am not sure the market would support, since it seems very few of these cars are being tracked or built for track use

We don't make test pipes, so not sure where you got that idea from. As far as our pricing, and products in general here is how we operate. Take it fwiw.

We do NOT sell every brand under the sun. Just the opposite. If I would not run it on my own car, I will not sell it. No ifs, ands or buts. That is why you will see some products from a manufacturer on our site, and not others. Some of a manufacturers products are worth us selling. Others are not. We are hands on here, and if something doesn't look good enough to me, I won't sell it.

With respect to pricing, I would beg to differ. I know our pricing is competitive in the marketplace. Not some random website you spend 30 minutes searching for or some blow out ebay listing from someone with 2 feedbacks. Not a seller who tells you a given set of coilovers will drop a car 4 inches when they only drop a car 1.5. I don't consider them our competition. At the risk of sounding snobby, I know for a fact our staff are more informed, and far more hands on than most of the other online sellers out there. They are also far more attentive, and far more active in the actual community, than most other vendors out there. That is why I don't particularly care if we're sometimes a bit more expensive - that level of knowledge isn't free, nor is that level of support both pre and post purchase. If all anyone is after is the cheapest price possible, I can certainly appreciate that - and if I can offer it, we certainly try. And if we can't, I don't lose sleep over it. We don't exist to be pricematched to death, merely to get the sale. I don't want those kind of sales in the first place, because they don't advance us as a company. Probably why not a single day goes by where someone doesn't call us for tech support on a product we didn't sell them. it happens all the time, on suspension parts, drivetrain parts, etc. This is not a job where we punch clocks. We are all passionate, to our core, about cars and performance in general. Any of our longterm customers will tell you that. The appeal of a cheap price goes away way quicker than the long term support of a vendor who actually knows what they are selling in the first place. We're not here to be all things to all people, and that is why we've remained not only in business, but successful, for as many years as we have. All while new .coms go out of business as quickly as they came in.

We had minimal (in our opinion) interest from people both in this thread, as well as on my350z, as well as via email/phone asking for additional info. So, we did a small first run, got them to the people who actually reached out to us and said "I want it" and then that was it. I guage real interest by people reaching out to us, phone, pm, email, IM. Not just "looks nice" in a forum post. I know, that sounds a bit harsh, I don't mean it to be that way. You know how it goes...if you had a dollar from everyone who said "I'll call you this week to order...."

If you re-read my reply, I absolutely will do a run of these as soon as the market tells me they actually want them. So far, I just don't see the demand being there, so my attention is on other things. Hopefully I am wrong - I'd love nothing more than to get these into people's hands, as I know they will be pleased with it. Like I said, it is all up to you guys - if you want it, and are serious about it, we're here to happily supply it, as well as work on other pieces in the future. If not, then no harm, no foul.

For what it's worth, here is a quick little blurb from one of the people who we gave a test piece too.

"The Z1 Auto transmission mount dramatically improved
shift engagement and eased gear selection without
sacrificing comfort. We highly recommend this
product for any Z/G enthusiast who takes their driving
seriously. Installation was easy - You must loosen the center bolt to align the two outer bolts,
other then that there were no installation issues what so ever. "

Performance Motorsport East Staff (this was from one of the owners, Andrew, who put it into their white 370Z)

I'll post up some install pics shortly

Should follow Tony's lead on promoting and gauging interest for new products. (sorry Tony, didn't mean to intentionally drag you into this)
Made his objectives and targets clear and was able to judge interest for his new long tubed headers ...... people who were interested stepped up with deposits for, in this case, purchase of parts to build the LT headers.

NOW thats what I call ... judging market interest for a new product. :tup:

I just don't get that feeling from Z1Performance but I do know that your knowledgeble what your selling from the perspective of experience and making sure it's right. (eg 4.083 rear gears for 370Z's) I'm still going to place my order for the rear gears in March but will search for other forum sponsors to fill the rest of my shopping list only because they are sponsors of the370Z.com .

Urethane Transmission Mount for 370Z/G37 Installed/Tested Corner Balance

some pics - more can be found on our blog, above. Production pieces may be powdercoated, or anodized, or painted as well, to stay stealthy and keep it looking nice over time. Haven't quite decided that yet.

http://cornerbalance.files.wordpress...-113.jpg?w=600

http://cornerbalance.files.wordpress...-121.jpg?w=600

http://cornerbalance.files.wordpress...-120.jpg?w=600

Is this for auto transmissions or both?

you know this is the first time i've even heard about this cuz you guys didn't update.
i'm actually interested in this and possibly solid motor mounts or urethane motor mount inserts.
i was looking at your site a couple weeks back for some parts and i gotta agree that some of your prices aren't the best and the selection isn't all that great. if you're posting more in the tech forum than the classifieds, then whose fault is that really? is it ours or yours for not actively trying to promote your product like other vendors?

You sorta missed my point, but it's neither here nor there.

Like I said, we're not here to be all things to all people - we sell what we know. Our selection for the 350Z is among the most extensive out there. For the 370Z, it is far more limited because frankly, there is no much out there. Combined with the fact that we saw minimal sales when we were here, and you can see why we haven't really rushed to add new stuff to our product range. That hopefully will change over time, but for the time being it is what it is. My concern is not offering every part out there. Just because someone makes it, does not mean it's worth us carrying. All that matters to me is that the range of what we carry represents the best of what is offered for the platforms we cater to.

jpit

We know this fits manuals, I have not looked into the auto's, and can't really imagine they would benefit much from doing such a mod since it's doing the shifting for you.

Zat Zuma

I appreciate the comments. Like I said, we posted the initial info everywhere we knew of that seemed worthwhile. The initial response was minimal at best, and that is why I didn't go full out with any sort of push. We're not here to force things down peoples throats.

Time to find out if people are interested:
http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...ion-mount.html

If we get to a certain number Z1Performance I hope you will produce them. Also hope it does not have to be X number of a specific version but just a certain overall.

thanks theDreamer, much appreciated

we did get one email earlier today from someone as well

just a certain total # overall - we can do as many or little quantity of each bushing type as needed

Sounds good.
There were a few people looking into this, lets see who still is, also, will the prices stay 150 (comfort) & 185 (race)?

im interested, but why get this instead of just going to home depot and buying urethane and filling the stock mount ourselves? is the construction superior to stock?

AH NOW I UNDERSTAND. OK my bad i see what is going on here and where the problem is. You guys get confused with the other Z1 WAAYYY often. I retract the test pipe and reselling comments i might edit my last post i might not depending on how lazy i am (i read way to many threads at once and miss things sometimes and i usually reread through from the first post but i didn't this time and it bit me)

(Sincere Apology here) i'm gonna go check your site out because that was some total fail on my part

Also a full solid poly mount is going to be far stiffer than a hack job windoweld poly fill I've gone that route before on other cars and believe me it's better but not as good as full poly

might even go down

Price reduction might get a few more people in.
Could you give me a slight estimate, on what you might expect a price to be if we reached say 15 or 20?

I really don't want to speculate, as the material costs on the aluminum are all quantity driven