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Nismo_370 10-11-2009 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dbh86 (Post 232181)
Dyno plots or shens

Don't complain about quality... i took a picture with my iphone just to prove i didn't make up the numbers.... scanned version will be available on Monday.

http://www.the370z.com/members/nismo...2-nismo370.jpg

JoeD 10-11-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo_370 (Post 232164)
uhh dont ask.... it was my first time going to the track. I had only given 3 runs, for $40.

I kept screwing up every run. My best run was 1st run 13.8, with reaction time .6xx... i started of easy, not flooring 1st gear.
2nd run 14.1 dues to spinning wheels at the start... 3rd run 14.xx due to misshift...

Hate to say it, but i think the numbers were bad, due to my poor driving.

Regardless of your "poor driving," it just seems like everyone is running similar times. E.T. is a relatively meaningless gauge of power-output, however. Your trap speed is the biggest indicator of the power you are making, where I'm willing to bet it's right in line with all the other unimpressive runs we've seen on the forum. Hey...hate the game, right?

HP is not a measure of how fast your car is. Acceleration times are. Still...you don't have a "330 WHP" car.

Nismo_370 10-11-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 232191)
HP is not a measure of how fast your car is. Acceleration times are. Still...you don't have a "330 WHP" car.

Ok, i don't have 330! I hope you can sleep better!
I am done with this thread...in fact... i'm not even gonna make another post, giving you guys information. You need it, go get it yourself.

dbh86 10-11-2009 02:12 PM

Is that the way the rest of the vq37's dyno plots look? IMO, that's not really something I'd want to have at all...

JoeD 10-11-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dbh86 (Post 232207)
Is that the way the rest of the vq37's dyno plots look? IMO, that's not really something I'd want to have at all...

No. That's just along the lines of what you get out of a Mustang Dyno in terms of charting. The scaling and plots differ from the accepted "standard" DynoJet readout to the point where you can't really compare the two.

Again, this is why dynos are merely devices to tune, not measure power. They give you the ability to repeatedly run the engine in 4th or 5th gear all the way to redline in a safe, controlled environment where you can monitor and thus tune the engine's vitals.

One could program a dyno to have a stock Toyota Corolla put down 400 WHP. :ugh2:

Here is what a realistic "330 WHP" looks like on a Z. This is the chart of Semtex's car with all the Stillen bolt-ons on a DynoJet:

http://www.the370z.com/members/semte...ced-052009.jpg

tru_Asiatik 10-11-2009 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo_370 (Post 232195)
Ok, i don't have 330! I hope you can sleep better!
I am done with this thread...in fact... i'm not even gonna make another post, giving you guys information. You need it, go get it yourself.

b4 u do...
please update sig :P

Knives 10-11-2009 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo_370 (Post 232195)
Ok, i don't have 330! I hope you can sleep better!
I am done with this thread...in fact... i'm not even gonna make another post, giving you guys information. You need it, go get it yourself.

I take it that means you won't be posting the results of your second dyno run?
:rofl2:

Oh, and please do update your sig.

theDreamer 10-11-2009 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo_370 (Post 232195)
Ok, i don't have 330! I hope you can sleep better!
I am done with this thread...in fact... i'm not even gonna make another post, giving you guys information. You need it, go get it yourself.

The issue is the information you are posting is so far outside of the norm it does not compute. If you came in here posting 280 or 290 we might believe it and know the Nismo is doing pretty good, but considering all that changes HP wise on your car is a tune and an exhaust you are not going to be 50HP above a stock coupe.

Zguy 10-11-2009 05:31 PM

anyone else on the forums have a Nismo that they have dynoed? There may be a bunch of things that nissan changed that they didnt mention... who knows.... No need to piss on someone because he got his car dynoed and it showed good numbers.... maybe he is new to the whole dyno area... someone who doesnt know anything about dynoes wouldnt know if something was funky... they would just be happy.... like the OP.... Personally I think the numbers are inflated but Its not IMPOSSIBLE for those numbers to be correct. Now I would call BS if there were other Nismo's on the forum putting down way less..... until then who knows.....

JoeD 10-11-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Zguy (Post 232406)
anyone else on the forums have a Nismo that they have dynoed? There may be a bunch of things that nissan changed that they didnt mention... who knows.... No need to piss on someone because he got his car dynoed and it showed good numbers.... maybe he is new to the whole dyno area... someone who doesnt know anything about dynoes wouldnt know if something was funky... they would just be happy.... like the OP.... Personally I think the numbers are inflated but Its not IMPOSSIBLE for those numbers to be correct. Now I would call BS if there were other Nismo's on the forum putting down way less..... until then who knows.....

Per Equinox's signature: "274.2 whp 227.48 wtq."

chuckd05 10-11-2009 06:25 PM

I don't know why my post was ignored but I put down 279 whp / 255 tq on their dyno and 255 or 259 and 250 tq at no limit on their dynodynamics dyno on my old 03 g35 coupe that I just traded in. This dyno reads high which is not good or bad just something to take into consideration. Use your dyno as a baseline to improve upon with the mods you do.

What did you trap In the 1/4 mile?

chuckd05 10-11-2009 06:38 PM

Every single dyno is different and the number is not one to brag about unless you are comparing it to cars going on and off the dyno right after you. And in your case you did better than most cars there, and thats a good thing... So i would be happy with your dyno for sure, no doubt about it... If there dyno reads high, it reads high, who cares.. if your happy with your car than the puts you in the best possible position as the owner of the car... congrats on your sweet nismo 370, i wish i had the extra money to burn on the nismo, but in my case i have a base, is it shitty that i dont have a lsd or a sweet stereo, or the 19s, maybe to some, but to me im more than satisfied and thats all that matters.

370Zsteve 10-11-2009 06:58 PM

"Don't hate the player... hate the game!"

LOL, if you did get some sort of weird freak, we'd all be the first to say it's very cool.

There is only one way for this to be settled. You MUST take the car to another dyno. :driving: Immediately. We expect an update tomorrow 5pm sharp.

RCZ 10-11-2009 07:28 PM

We arent saying you are BS, we are saying your numbers are BS so you can post all the dyno plots in the world and it wont make a difference. I completely agree with modshack; if you bumped into me with your stock z and told me you made 330whp I'd probably laugh in your face.

Its not a matter of doing a run somewhere else either. If you go to a more normal reading dyno, you will be lower.

No ones got anything against you here, just know that those aren't accurate numbers by any means. Usually the highest reading dyno's are dynapaks and even those are reading in the 290 range for a stock 370Z. Then the Dynojets reading about 285whp and then your heartbreakers the mustangdynes and the dynodynamics that are reading in the 260 range.

Be informed.

theDreamer 10-11-2009 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 232558)
We arent saying you are BS, we are saying your numbers are BS so you can post all the dyno plots in the world and it wont make a difference. I completely agree with modshack; if you bumped into me with your stock z and told me you made 330whp I'd probably laugh in your face.

Its not a matter of doing a run somewhere else either. If you go to a more normal reading dyno, you will be lower.

No ones got anything against you here, just know that those aren't accurate numbers by any means. Usually the highest reading dyno's are dynapaks and even those are reading in the 290 range for a stock 370Z. Then the Dynojets reading about 285whp and then your heartbreakers the mustangdynes and the dynodynamics that are reading in the 260 range.

Be informed.

:iagree:

Nismo_370 10-11-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 232558)
We arent saying you are BS, we are saying your numbers are BS so you can post all the dyno plots in the world and it wont make a difference. I completely agree with modshack; if you bumped into me with your stock z and told me you made 330whp I'd probably laugh in your face.

Its not a matter of doing a run somewhere else either. If you go to a more normal reading dyno, you will be lower.

No ones got anything against you here, just know that those aren't accurate numbers by any means. Usually the highest reading dyno's are dynapaks and even those are reading in the 290 range for a stock 370Z. Then the Dynojets reading about 285whp and then your heartbreakers the mustangdynes and the dynodynamics that are reading in the 260 range.

Be informed.

I can apreciate it when you put it in that context.

But when you put it this way:
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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 231421)
You dont have a factory freak, nor do you have 330whp. If you believe you do then you are a moron. Specially not 330whp on a mustangdyne. Stock Nismos should do about 265-275whp on that kind of dyno.

I don't apreciate it.


I didn't make this post to brag about my numbers.
Though i was very happy when i compared the numbers to other 370z that ran that day, including another Nismo. I certainly didn't make this post to get flamed for numbers that i received from DYNO. This was my first Dyno experience ever.

As i've already stated in the original post, it was my personal baseline on that specific dyno. On top of that, i haven't seen anyone else post Nismo's DYNO specs anywhere online, so i posted mine.

So even if that specific DYNO shows higher numbers. I have already told you that there were bunch of 370Zs running on that Dyno. The fact of the matter is: Non-Nismo 370Z with bolt on's (intake, exhaust, & test pipes) ran lower HP, than stock Nismo. ON that specific Dyno, on that specific day.

So those who still have need to continue to flame me... flame on!!!

oh and....Those haters who requested me to take my HP numbers of my sig can kiss my a$$. It is what it is...

Knives 10-11-2009 08:35 PM

So, "on that particular day", your nismo (with a nismo exhaust and a tune) had more power than base 370s with better exhausts, cai, test-pipes, etc., "on that particular day". It just makes no sense.

I'm not calling you a liar. Like people have said before me, we're not questioning your integrity, we are questioning the integrity of the dyno results.

Oh, and I'll hold off on kissing your a$$.

_______________
"STOCK 370z
550 HP @ 7500 RPM:
480 ft/lb @ 5500 RPM:"

import111 10-11-2009 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo_370 (Post 232614)
The fact of the matter is: Non-Nismo 370Z with bolt on's (intake, exhaust, & test pipes) ran lower HP, than stock Nismo. ON that specific Dyno, on that specific day.

So you are saying that even though Nissan says the 370Z makes 332hp and the Nismo 370Z makes 350hp which is due to catback exhaust and a tune, that some how more mods to a 370Z = less hp than a Nismo? Can't you see why everyone does not believe this information you are posting? It has been proven that exhaust + test pipes or HFC's gains more than 18whp with any aftermarket exhaust on the 370Z that I have seen, accept the Nismo exhaust which by it's self apparently only gains 5-6whp.

JoeD 10-11-2009 09:06 PM

Aside from WHP figures...I'm still curious to find out more about his 1/4-mile run. 1/8-mile MPH, 1/4-mile trap speed, etc.

Can you perhaps scan some of the time-slips? If anything, I just want to see more data compiled for these cars.

Nismo_370 10-11-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by import111 (Post 232705)
So you are saying that even though Nissan says the 370Z makes 332hp and the Nismo 370Z makes 350hp which is due to catback exhaust and a tune, that some how more mods to a 370Z = less hp than a Nismo? Can't you see why everyone does not believe this information you are posting? It has been proven that exhaust + test pipes or HFC's gains more than 18whp with any aftermarket exhaust on the 370Z that I have seen, accept the Nismo exhaust which by it's self apparently only gains 5-6whp.

Performance Motorsport has a 370z touring+sport package. Project Car.

These are the facts i know about it:
It has Injen Intake, berk test pipes, Greddy exhaust, HKS coils, R compound tires. It made 328 WHP on their DYNO.

I didn't put anything on my car, i did 327 HP. 2500 miles on my engine atm.
My buddy put berk's test pipes on his Nismo, he did 332 HP.

That's all i want to say. This all is based on all the numbers i witnessed in that specific shop. I hope word twisting will stop...


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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 232719)
Aside from WHP figures...I'm still curious to find out more about his 1/4-mile run. 1/8-mile MPH, 1/4-mile trap speed, etc.

Can you perhaps scan some of the time-slips? If anything, I just want to see more data compiled for these cars.

Yes, i can scan it for you. Here are the numbers of my time slip, from when i went to the Drag Strip:

10:48 AM, 09/20/09, Temp: 62 F, Relative Humidity: 0, Absolute barometer: 30.13

R/T: .618
I made a whole in whatever is the next row data is, but it showing: 2.263
33x: 5.999
1/8: 9.081
MPH: 78.82
1000:11.654
1/4: 13.868
MPH: 102.16

Right first .6384

Note:
It was with 1300 miles on the Engine
Full Tank of Gas
Spare tire in the trunk.
My driving sucked

theDreamer 10-11-2009 09:15 PM

The row with the hole is probably your 60ft.

import111 10-11-2009 09:17 PM

Now you are just a liar. You stated above that, "Non-Nismo 370Z with bolt on's (intake, exhaust, & test pipes) ran lower HP, than stock Nismo.", but the #'s you just posted say that the modded non Nismo made 1whp more than you.

Also you kept saying you made 330whp, which is still in you Sig, but the #'s you just posted are 327whp. Looks like you are twisting your own words.

Valentino 10-11-2009 09:19 PM

So no mojo's in the Nismo ECU ... :shakes head:

For the OP .. we live and learn .. Most who disagreed, Or who agreed with your numbers assumed that you knew all about the difference in dyno manufactures and SAE numbers.

PEACE

Nismo_370 10-11-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by import111 (Post 232733)
Now you are just a liar. You stated above that, "Non-Nismo 370Z with bolt on's (intake, exhaust, & test pipes) ran lower HP, than stock Nismo.", but the #'s you just posted say that the modded non Nismo made 1whp more than you.

Also you kept saying you made 330whp, which is still in you Sig, but the #'s you just posted are 327whp. Looks like you are twisting your own words.

oh god... ok i stand corrected... my stock Nismo made 1 HP less than modified base 370z. I was corrected earlier by someone who explained what was "corrected HP on the dyno"
My uncorrected Dyno run was 330 HP... my corrected Dyno run was 327 HP...

370Zsteve 10-11-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo_370 (Post 232614)
So those who still have need to continue to flame me... flame on!!!

:thumbsdown: Change your sig it makes you look silly. Demand another pull on their dyno, tell them everyone is laughing at you and you are getting a bit testy about it. :tup:

Nismo_370 10-11-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 232743)
:thumbsdown: Change your sig it makes you look silly.

Done

fairladyZ34 10-11-2009 09:34 PM

its funny when people bash others on the internet cuz they never have to say it to that person face to face.

the 327whp does seem a bit high tho. that would make an extremely effiecient drivetrain with about a 6.6% drivetrain loss

theDreamer 10-11-2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ34 (Post 232762)
its funny when people bash others on the internet cuz they never have to say it to that person face to face.

the 327whp does seem a bit high tho. that would make an extremely effiecient drivetrain with about a 6.6% drivetrain loss

I could bet many of the people here would say something similar to what they are saying now. They might not be so blunt, but they would let them know something is wrong or the dyno needs calibration.

dcrew1x 10-11-2009 09:37 PM

Relax man.

Don't get upset over this; this is the internet.

First off, thanks for posting your dyno results.

It wouldn't hurt to ask the dude to do another dyno run but if you don't want to it's not the end of the world and nobody is going to hate you for it.

If you can, for your own personal benefit/information, try getting a baseline somewhere else? At the very least for your own peace of mind. No one is forcing anything.

For now, consider the fact that your dyno is not "accurate" and leave it at that.

You'll be happier in the long run.

Nismo_370 10-11-2009 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ34 (Post 232762)
its funny when people bash others on the internet cuz they never have to say it to that person face to face.

the 327whp does seem a bit high tho. that would make an extremely effiecient drivetrain with about a 6.6% drivetrain loss

I agree to both statements!

Mike 10-11-2009 09:39 PM

The numbers may be high, but that still doesn't negate the fact that the 2 nismos made considerably more than the regular ones that were modded, except that one that was close. That tells me you really need some ecu recalibration to take full advantage of bolt ons.

Nismo_370 10-11-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dcrew1x (Post 232765)
Relax man.

Don't get upset over this; this is the internet.

First off, thanks for posting your dyno results.

It wouldn't hurt to ask the dude to do another dyno run but if you don't want to it's not the end of the world and nobody is going to hate you for it.

If you can, for your own personal benefit/information, try getting a baseline somewhere else? At the very least for your own peace of mind. No one is forcing anything.

For now, consider the fact that your dyno is not "accurate" and leave it at that.

You'll be happier in the long run.


Yep, thanks man!
Apreciate it!

I actually stated already, that I will be doing another DYNO Run elsewhere.
When i do, I will post numbers!

I will let Performance Motorsport know, that they might need to collaborate their DYNO.

But again, it was a DYNO day of all 370z, so relatively comparing my runs to other Zs. I am a happy man, seeing that i didn't pay extra money for the Nismo, just because of looks.

fairladyZ34 10-11-2009 09:44 PM

it is what it is. the nismos run a higher air/fuel ratio than non-nismos. so i bet by default if you were to mod a reg-z and nismo-z with the same boltons the nismo would make more power because it can use the increases airflow

Nismo_370 10-11-2009 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 232768)
The numbers may be high, but that still doesn't negate the fact that the 2 nismos made considerably more than the regular ones that were modded, except that one that was close. That tells me you really need some ecu recalibration to take full advantage of bolt ons.

THANK YOU! For pointing it out.

JoeD 10-11-2009 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo_370 (Post 232726)

R/T: .618
I made a whole in whatever is the next row data is, but it showing: 2.263
33x: 5.999
1/8: 9.081
MPH: 78.82
1000:11.654
1/4: 13.868
MPH: 102.16

Thanks for the info. :tup:

Your 102 MPH speaks volumes. Unfortunately, you can't excuse poor driving or track-prep for an unsatisfactory trap-speed, as it is a parameter not significantly effected. To delve a little deeper, your 23.3 MPH delta between the 660' and 1320' solidifies you car as being slower-than-average.

Look like your 330 horses making it to the wheels aren't working as hard as the 275 or so in a stock Base-model.

We've seen bone stock 7ATs go 13.2 @ 108 MPH. Damn...they must make upwards of 375 RWHP. :roflpuke2:

Endgame 10-11-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 231938)
Go to 7:45 of this video, watch it, and then repost your thoughts as to MT's impression of this vehicle. Something ain't right. :tiphat:

TechEBlog Motor Trend: Best Driver's Car Competition

My thoughts do not change; I heard those comments before. I am talking sheer lap times..... Nismo was not there lap time wise when compared to the others (not including the MX5)....

Nismo_370 10-11-2009 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 232832)
Thanks for the info. :tup:

Your 102 MPH speaks volumes. Unfortunately, you can't excuse poor driving or track-prep for an unsatisfactory trap-speed, as it is a parameter not significantly effected. To delve a little deeper, your 23.3 MPH delta between the 660' and 1320' solidifies you car as being slower-than-average.

Look like your 330 horses making it to the wheels aren't working as hard as the 275 or so in a stock Base-model.

We've seen bone stock 7ATs go 13.2 @ 108 MPH. Damn...they must make upwards of 375 RWHP. :roflpuke2:

I never claimed i was faster, nor claimed 330 hp was accurate... you definitely missing a point!
I exposed the numbers i was shown by professionals.

I will get back to you personally, when I do DYNO elsewhere.

RCZ 10-11-2009 11:38 PM

Sorry I hurt your e-feelings with my first comment...

The point is that you arent making 330whp. We aren't hating, but your are now giving us a reason to. Please just answer one question and we will leave you alone.

Do you really think you have 330whp? Regardless of what your dyno run says, just tell us if you think you have 330whp.

Now if your answer is "no" then WHY the heck (I said heck not hell I'm being polite) did you post it on your sig as if you did?

Don't be fooled by these numbers man, they are way too high...I'm not a hater (by the way what where you thinking with the whole definition of hater thing in your sig, are you serious?) but I tell it like I see it. There are a lot of folks in here who have more experience with this car than you do and it would be smart to listen to them.

Whats with people calling people haters, its getting so effin annoying. Just stop..

JoeD 10-11-2009 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 232927)
Whats with people calling people haters, its getting so effin annoying. Just stop..

Wow...truer words have not been spoken.

He's not the only one by any means. Many here are quick to label someone as a "hater" if they say anything negative, so much so that it sticks out more than any other forum I'm a part of. Is it demographical? I can't remember the last time I've heard that word used in the same context in real-world communication, but perhaps it's because I don't associate with ghetto teenagers.

tru_Asiatik 10-12-2009 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 232927)
Sorry I hurt your e-feelings with my first comment...

The point is that you arent making 330whp. We aren't hating, but your are now giving us a reason to. Please just answer one question and we will leave you alone.

Do you really think you have 330whp? Regardless of what your dyno run says, just tell us if you think you have 330whp.

Now if your answer is "no" then WHY the heck (I said heck not hell I'm being polite) did you post it on your sig as if you did?

Don't be fooled by these numbers man, they are way too high...I'm not a hater (by the way what where you thinking with the whole definition of hater thing in your sig, are you serious?) but I tell it like I see it. There are a lot of folks in here who have more experience with this car than you do and it would be smart to listen to them.

Whats with people calling people haters, its getting so effin annoying. Just stop..

+1 agreed


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