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simota1 06-16-2009 09:21 PM

DIY: of complete FOG LAMP install
 
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FOG LAMP!!!!

All right everyone!!! all you guys are gonna love me for this... b4 i start off i would like to just say that installing the fog was much easier than i thought... so ill walk all of you through it ALL alright..... here we go....

BEFORE
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AFTER
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Step 1 installing the lamp

Look underneath your rear bumper you will see one pop out fastener.... it looks like this...

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...38-fog-005.jpg

Stick your flat head screwdriver and pop it out... looks like this...

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...39-fog-006.jpg

Now..... simply wiggle it out... mine was a little stuck for some odd reason... DONT FORCE it out k!?!? just keep wiggling it with your fingers till it comes out...

Now look up right in front of your exhaust barrel there will be a plate.... looks like this..

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...40-fog-008.jpg

sorry the pic is kinda blurry and dark i was putting on the fog lamp at night...
there will be 3 pop out fasteners on the black plate... Pop them off like you did with the first fastener and slide out the plate....

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...41-fog-010.jpg
The plate looks like this.....

Now the plate is out you have so much free space now... Now you unbolt the two number 10 nuts.... PLEASE NOTE... my block off plate one of the nuts stud spun so i couldnt take out the nut.... i spend and extra hour trying to break off the nutt... So please dont just force the nut loose.... there is so much loctite on it will spin the stud on the plastic piece of the block off plate.... do it slowly... please.... Now that you have the two nuts off.... slide forward the block off plate...

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...42-fog-012.jpg

it looks like this... now take your fog and install it where you took out the block plate and bolt it down...and put back the fasteners and everything....

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...01-fog-014.jpg there you have it.... its installed....

NOW....

Step 2 Removing the inside panels...

Open your hatch and look for the cover plates near your taillights... pop them off like on the pics... just use your fingers you dont need any tools for this...

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...44-fog-016.jpg

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Next remove the molding just pull it in a upward motion

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...50-fog-021.jpg

Ok i know the next pic is dark but pull the molding all the way up to where u see where the panels end because the panels have to come off to get to your taillight harness......

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...51-fog-023.jpg

Now remove your cargo mats... in the back PLEASE NOTE you do not have to remove your spare tire or misc tools when you pull out your panels....

Now to take out your interior panels.... start with the center pop out the tie down hooks like this...

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...48-fog-019.jpg

pop out your cargo light look for a slot in the left side its enough space to stick a flat head in and pop it out... unplug... now there is no more things holding down your panel pull it from the bottom first and in a upward motion....

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...52-fog-025.jpg
you have to pull upward because you will break the fasteners if you dont....

Once you take out the center panel... start taking out the side panels... pop out the fasteners holding it down...
http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...53-fog-026.jpg

once all the fasteners are out start from the front and of the side panel pull forward and upward again....

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...54-fog-027.jpg

now you have full access to the taillight harness...

Unbolt the two size ten nuts on top then the 5/16 nut on the inner side of the taillight...

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...55-fog-029.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...56-fog-030.jpg
thats the picture of the nut on the inner side of the taillights... once you have taken out all the nuts slide FORWARD the taillight... dont pull it upward or anything jus forward... you might damage the clips if you pull it upward...

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...62-fog-031.jpg

once you pull it forward un clip the taillight from the harness... if you have trouble with the un clipping the harness get a flat head push down on the tab and push outward...

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...64-fog-033.jpg

STEP 3 WIRING the FOG LAMP

Now at this point your ready to wire up the foglamp.... for this step.... you can wire it straight meaning when u want it to on its on... if you want to do it this way here is how to do it....

the most simple way is to tap the hot wire on your license plate frame.... the red colored wire is the one to tap....

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...73-fog-044.jpg

crimp another wire to it and lead it to your fog lamp... and crimp it to the red wire of your fog lamp..
http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...71-fog-041.jpg

MAKE SURE your wires are far far from your exhaust if its to close when you hit a bump it will stick cuz the rubber around the wire will stick on your exhaust then it will ground which will lead to you popping a fuse or shorting out the line... both you dont wanna do... now for the black wire of foglamp just ground it on the chassis anywhere will do fine...

and voila your finished your fog lamp will turn on when you turn on your parking lamps...

NOW if you want a little more pezaz... the way I hooked up my foglamp is as follows...

does everyone remember the F1 blinking thread? so i borrowed the idea lol.... if you wanna hook your foglamp like this.... you need a flasher and a five wire relay 30/40

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...60-fog-034.jpg

i connected the ground of my fog to relay and flasher....

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...67-fog-037.jpg

SORRY FOR NOT being specific with wiring the relay... the reason is because there is so many different kinds and the wires are not always the same color...ground your relay and wire the relay so that when it gets a signal it cuts off the ground of the foglamp... to get a signal from your reverse tap the orange middle wire in the harness... of your taillights...

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...64-fog-033.jpg lead it to the signal wire of your relay

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...68-fog-038.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...74-fog-045.jpg
Here you can see the outcome after i tapped the orange wire...

FINALLY Now for the red wire of the fog lamp wire the same way i mentioned earlier just tap the parking lights wire....

The outcome.... when your parking lights are turned on... the foglamp turns on.... now the minute you pop it in reverse.... the foglamp will start flashing acting like a warning light... then when you pop it out of reverse it remains on... BADASS right? i only spent like 30 bucks for the flasher relay crimps and wires....

PLEASE NOTE the foglamp will not flash in reverse when your parking lights are off reason why is.... the power source is from the parking lights not your reverse light... the reverse light wire is just a signal wire....

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Notes..... the reason why i wired my foglamp to work only at night because it was EASIER lol i was to lazy to lead wires all the way to the front but if you want your fog lamp always on right when you turn on your car jus tap the red wire on the foglamp to a acc wire on the z.... this way it will blink all the time your in reverse.... IF you want a switch to turn it off when you lead the acc wire to the fog wire it up to a switch that cuts the circuit off when you press it a stationary push button or toggle switch will do fine....

SO good luck to all of you... and work safe on your cars...
:tup:

spearfish25 06-16-2009 09:39 PM

mmmmm, nice of you to put together, but the challenge is not installing the fog light. It's WIRING the fog light appropriately to a usable switch.

That being said, is your new fog light wired and working or just filling the space that the OEM filler was fililng? (that's a lot of filling)

AJChubbs 06-16-2009 10:15 PM

Don't rush the man he's on his lunch break!

Good luck, keep us posted. I'm wondering if I'll be man enough to do this myself after your instructions or just go to the dealership....

simota1 06-17-2009 02:31 AM

Sorry you saw my DIY when it wasnt finished ... i got hungry while writing it LMAO.... my foglamp is fully functional when the parking lamps are on and blinks when i put it in reverse... :tup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 92790)
mmmmm, nice of you to put together, but the challenge is not installing the fog light. It's WIRING the fog light appropriately to a usable switch.

That being said, is your new fog light wired and working or just filling the space that the OEM filler was fililng? (that's a lot of filling)


simota1 06-17-2009 02:32 AM

LOL now i got a good lunch i finished the thread... dont worry chubbs wiring the foglamp is pretty easy nothing to fancy.... im sure you can do it.. :tup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJChubbs (Post 92853)
Don't rush the man he's on his lunch break!

Good luck, keep us posted. I'm wondering if I'll be man enough to do this myself after your instructions or just go to the dealership....


Minicobra1 06-17-2009 03:52 AM

Thanks for taking the time to post up the DIY with all the pics :tup:

spearfish25 06-17-2009 05:46 AM

Great DIY...I was antsy to see the end :)

+1 Rep

VCuomo 06-17-2009 02:50 PM

So is it possible to wire it up like the factory would? I'm guessing that there's just one wiring harness they use, so there's probably a way to make it go on and off just like it was factory-installed.

simota1 06-17-2009 04:21 PM

Umm im not really sure i understand your question but here goes.... it is possible to make the fog work like the factory.... i believe on the factory the fog turns on right when you turn on the car and there is a seperate switch if you wish to turn it off... as for the harness... you dont really need one because the wiring is only a two wire set up not like a complicated one where there are like ten wires going into it.... so if you wanted it to work like factory...ground the black wire to the chasis and then hook up the red to a accesory or ignition wire so right when you turn on the car it is on.... and then put a switch in between the wire so if wish to turn it of it will cut the circuit and the power of the fog.... now if u wire it up this way it is more work because you have to lead wires to the front of the z and then find a place for the switch... but its definetely possible.... :tup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 93329)
So is it possible to wire it up like the factory would? I'm guessing that there's just one wiring harness they use, so there's probably a way to make it go on and off just like it was factory-installed.


CBRich 06-17-2009 06:10 PM

If you only wanted it to flash with reverse then you would just need the timer and have the power come from the reverse lights, is that correct? No relay needed?

simota1 06-18-2009 04:41 AM

Yes correct.... no relay needed... but it would be off the whole time and only light up in reverse...


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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 93469)
If you only wanted it to flash with reverse then you would just need the timer and have the power come from the reverse lights, is that correct? No relay needed?


VCuomo 06-18-2009 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simota1 (Post 93401)
Umm im not really sure i understand your question but here goes.... it is possible to make the fog work like the factory.... i believe on the factory the fog turns on right when you turn on the car and there is a seperate switch if you wish to turn it off... as for the harness... you dont really need one because the wiring is only a two wire set up not like a complicated one where there are like ten wires going into it.... so if you wanted it to work like factory...ground the black wire to the chasis and then hook up the red to a accesory or ignition wire so right when you turn on the car it is on.... and then put a switch in between the wire so if wish to turn it of it will cut the circuit and the power of the fog.... now if u wire it up this way it is more work because you have to lead wires to the front of the z and then find a place for the switch... but its definetely possible.... :tup:

What I meant was that according to the Owner's Manual, to turn on the fog lamp (if so equipped) you turn the light switch to headlights on, then turn it to parking lights on, and then it appears that you turn it back to headlights on. To turn the fog lamp off off, you turn the headlights off. The main thing is that the fog lamp is not on whenever the headlights are on (you have to do the funky thing with the headlight switch). Is this how your fog lamp is turned on?

simota1 06-18-2009 10:13 PM

O ok now i understand.... sorry... no mine just turns on when i turn on the parking lights... even when my headlights are off my fog light is on... only when you switch off the parking lights the fog turns off.... i hope this was the answer helps you out...

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Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 94080)
What I meant was that according to the Owner's Manual, to turn on the fog lamp (if so equipped) you turn the light switch to headlights on, then turn it to parking lights on, and then it appears that you turn it back to headlights on. To turn the fog lamp off off, you turn the headlights off. The main thing is that the fog lamp is not on whenever the headlights are on (you have to do the funky thing with the headlight switch). Is this how your fog lamp is turned on?


ConchZ2 06-24-2009 07:43 PM

What's the Nissan fog light part number?

ZKindaGuy 06-24-2009 09:41 PM

Alot a work for just a fog-light. I thought that would be a great place for a rear view camera instead of a fog light.

biggestbob 06-30-2009 05:33 AM

Thanks for the write-up. Thats not bad at at all, but I figure it would be more of a plug and play since it is OEM.

ChrisSlicks 06-30-2009 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big.Bob (Post 102948)
Thanks for the write-up. Thats not bad at at all, but I figure it would be more of a plug and play since it is OEM.

It plugs but it doesn't play. The stock harness is there but there is no way turn it on. It would be interesting to see if simply using the Canadian light stalk would make it work, but that adds a lot of cost.

jikhead 07-15-2009 04:15 PM

Is there a clear or white lens available for this? And can it be wired to the reverse light in the tail lamps so that it only comes on when in reverse? Hence an additional reverse light so I can see when backing up.

simota1 07-15-2009 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jikhead (Post 115086)
Is there a clear or white lens available for this? And can it be wired to the reverse light in the tail lamps so that it only comes on when in reverse? Hence an additional reverse light so I can see when backing up.

No they only come in red.... the jdm version or in black heavily tinted which is the us version... im not aware that there is a white one

jikhead 07-15-2009 09:10 PM

can you post up a video of what it looks like on and flashing, up on YouTube?

simota1 07-15-2009 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jikhead (Post 115349)
can you post up a video of what it looks like on and flashing, up on YouTube?

SUre thing proly next week though my man... my car is on jackstands cuz im having my rims powdercoated.... and it looks like it got robbed LMAO sooo yah i dont wanna show u guys my car when its like that...

jikhead 07-15-2009 10:40 PM

take a picture of that too!

kekermahoney 07-23-2009 11:35 PM

the blinking reverse is neat, but what about making it another brake light...

simota1 07-24-2009 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kekermahoney (Post 123366)
the blinking reverse is neat, but what about making it another brake light...

o man lol i just left u a comment saying to check out my DIY im to late... thats way easier jus tap the wire that hot when u step on the brake pedal and u got ur self another brake light :tup:

Cjanik 08-07-2009 09:20 AM

^^ thats what im going to do when I get my car.
I want it to turn on whenever I hit the brakes, too many "My 370z got rear ended!" threads around here!!

if anybody knows where I can get that rear fog light switch that the JDM fairlady's have, I would greatly appriciate it!

jookiyaya 08-07-2009 04:40 PM

haha sim again you did it again! awesome thread. but when u said' easier than done' i was like woohoo! it seemed easy to the 'pop out the little square' then when all the wiring explanation kicked in, i was like oh no.... more hours for me hahaha.
anyways great stuff! this is soo original i luv it.

Mr_Z 08-11-2009 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simota1 (Post 123432)
o man lol i just left u a comment saying to check out my DIY im to late... thats way easier jus tap the wire that hot when u step on the brake pedal and u got ur self another brake light :tup:

Hmmm interesting,
Simota1 , so what is the hot wire color of the brake lights?? I assume the folowing:

- Red = Tail (?)
- Green = Brakes (?)
- Orange = Reverse (Yes, confirmed by Simota1)
- White = Turn signals (?)
- Black = Ground


Also,
what is the part number of the Relay you used??

Thanks man... great post!

kekermahoney 08-12-2009 06:37 PM

if you figure out how to make it another brake light you HAVE to post it! thanks

Mr_Z 08-13-2009 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kekermahoney (Post 148793)
if you figure out how to make it another brake light you HAVE to post it! thanks

Hi,
I think I have figured out how to create the following, using bits and pieces of information from this post and other sites:

When I am done with my installation I will get:

- Low intensity fog light (as I have the Canadian model, I am lucky to have the switch on the steering column. But the fog light is very bright so I have to lower the intensity to enable the third light braking option). For American models, you will have to either wire it to the low intensity tail lights (turns on with the tail lights), or add a switch somewhere to turn it on manually.

- When I brake, the fog light will be flashing quickly 6 times (high intensity), then finally stay on (high intensity as for the brake lights)

- There is a delay so the flashing only occurs once. It will occur again if I don't touch the brakes for more than 8 sec. This is to avoid flashing all the time in heavy traffic for example.

- I believe that my planned setup will give me the option to later add the “reverse flashing” option as mentioned in this post. I just need more info about the relay used and where to by it. If I get it on time I will also add this feature.

Yesterday, I have ordered all the parts necessary to make it happen. I should be installing this very soon and see if I am successful... ;)

Also, I still requirer information about the wire colors.. (see above), please help!

AJChubbs 08-14-2009 12:51 PM

Hi all, I'm going to go ahead and ask a stupid question here about the install. I recently got mine and just yesterday had the time to drop it in. Now the original black housing has wires and a gray plastic cap to that wiring that I left on. What do I do with that stuff and what do I do with the gray plastic part at the end of the wiring on my new lamp. For now I just installed the piece physically without attaching the wires. I seem to be lost from step 2 to after. Thanks and sorry for the idiotic question. Im a bit new at this.

kekermahoney 08-14-2009 09:10 PM

blinking brake light.. that sounds neat-O.. I cant find the foglight on ebay tho-any suggestions?

simota1 08-15-2009 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJChubbs (Post 151107)
Hi all, I'm going to go ahead and ask a stupid question here about the install. I recently got mine and just yesterday had the time to drop it in. Now the original black housing has wires and a gray plastic cap to that wiring that I left on. What do I do with that stuff and what do I do with the gray plastic part at the end of the wiring on my new lamp. For now I just installed the piece physically without attaching the wires. I seem to be lost from step 2 to after. Thanks and sorry for the idiotic question. Im a bit new at this.

no problem man.. since u got it installed u have to just wire up the fog lamp... :tup: the gray peice on the black housing is im guessing for a real harness on the jdm models... but since we dont have that... u have to hard wire it to ur tail light harness....


BTW everyone i am sooooo sorry yes yes i know the wire color thing... ive been soooo slammed i cant take apart my taillights in time cuz im sooo tired i will get that hot wire color for the brake signal to all of u... soon i had a chance to do it once but my test light was broke... so i put back my panels thinking i wouldnt have to take it out again cuz i sealed them but low and behold.. the right one still leaks and moisture is in there.. i am sooo irritated by the freakin moisture... :shakes head: and its such a pain in the *** to take out the panels... :shakes head: will get it here hopefully tonight cuz im free sort of im just taking a break from work...

CBRich 08-15-2009 09:03 AM

You have moisture in your tail? Couldn't possibly be from this mod, this is all external, correct? What caused that?

simota1 08-15-2009 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 151858)
You have moisture in your tail? Couldn't possibly be from this mod, this is all external, correct? What caused that?

its a factory defect im afraid... theres a bad seal on both my tail lights and ive tried sealing them like 4 times already havent gotten lucky yet... only got it to stop on the driver side taillight...

TLP 08-27-2009 06:41 PM

I'm a new 370Z owner (had it about 2 months) and am interested in installing the fog lamp with the module from flashingbrakelights.com . If anyone has done this, I'd really appreciate some instructions on how to hook up the wiring. A diagram would be great but pictures would be better.
Thanks

Mr_Z 08-28-2009 08:23 AM

I am working on it! I'll let you know if I'm successful. I have very few information about the wire colors so, so far, I only managed to burn the relay :( Ha ha ha! (Oh well, got to bring it to the dealer today...)


Quote:

Originally Posted by TLP (Post 173139)
I'm a new 370Z owner (had it about 2 months) and am interested in installing the fog lamp with the module from flashingbrakelights.com . If anyone has done this, I'd really appreciate some instructions on how to hook up the wiring. A diagram would be great but pictures would be better.
Thanks


Shunya 08-28-2009 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simota1 (Post 152484)
its a factory defect im afraid... theres a bad seal on both my tail lights and ive tried sealing them like 4 times already havent gotten lucky yet... only got it to stop on the driver side taillight...

is it now?

simota1 08-28-2009 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shunya (Post 174237)
is it now?

naw... the 5th time was the charm... a lil moisture is left over but itll disspaear after a while no worries!!! use to look like a rain forest in there...

Mr_Z 09-01-2009 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLP (Post 173139)
I'm a new 370Z owner (had it about 2 months) and am interested in installing the fog lamp with the module from flashingbrakelights.com . If anyone has done this, I'd really appreciate some instructions on how to hook up the wiring. A diagram would be great but pictures would be better.
Thanks

Hi,
I've sucessfuly finished the flashing brake light mod.

Some info:

- Red = Tail (Yes, confirmed by me)
- Green = Brakes (Yes, confirmed by me)
- Orange = Reverse (Yes, confirmed by Simota1)
- White = Turn signals (?)
- Black = Ground (You will also find a ground bolt not far from the tail light inside the trunk)

You need to tap into the tail lights (see color chart above), install a flashing module and manage to install a socket that supports a dual wire bulb (7443). The 7443 socket does not fit exactly as for the original 7440 socket (sigle wire) so you need to make some adjustments in order for it to become waterproof. In my case, I used an additional rubber ring and fixed it in place with a tie-rap.

On thing though, the flashing module from flashingbrakelights.com behaves in a strange way on my setup. If the car is not started, it will flash and reset after 8 sec (normal behaviour). If the car is running, it wil not completely reset until you haven't touched the brakes for about 45sec. Very strange and I can't explain it! After 15 sec, it will flash once or twice. After 30 sec, it will flash 3-4 times. After 45 sec it will flash 4 or 5 times. I have tested it with LED and regular bulbs... the same. So if you have an idea why, I would like to hear it!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAl4dHQWE6M

simota1 09-01-2009 12:59 PM

nice one man!!! :tup:


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