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Steering Lock
Our early 2011 has exhibited no signs of a problem, but better safe than sorry. Especially, since it is my wife's car and she is often far from home.
I followed your procedure to remove the fuse and found that there was no effect on the car other than there is no steering lock. There was a little more to getting to the fuse than I anticipated, but I got it out without hurting myself or the car. Thanks for the information... Thanks, rangercarol |
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Your welcome:hello: Hope you have a good weekend!!!!! |
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i get the heebie jeebies every time i see this thread.. CUT THE BROWN WIRE! AGHHHH! |
I'm pretty sure I read this whole thread, and no one has mentioned this yet..
say you take the whole thing apart, like Korrupt did here: http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...ml#post1626521 Couldn't you just manually rotate the gear into the correct position (depressing the two buttons), then either cut the brown wire, pull the fuse, or possibly cut the motor power on the circuit board itself? (I haven't opened mine yet, going to do it tomorrow). When the gear is in the position where the two switches are pushed in, is the mechanical lock pushed out and into the steering column? The pictures are hard to tell how the locking mechanism works, but he does say in the last picture "This piece has to be taped down or removed so that you can turn the wheel". I know Fritz has mentioned he has some detailed instructions, but haven't gotten a response from him yet. |
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Good luck. Take pics and post a DIY when you figure it out. |
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It's sad I'm somewhat excited to rip this thing apart, out of spite to Nissan and their $1000 quote to fix it. Would probably be more excited not to have to do it at all. Will be taking some hi-res photos with my SLR. |
It may not be the pin that makes the switches, it may be the plastic ring that the motor turns. It's been so long since I read those posts that I can't remember for sure. If you haven't done so already, download the FSM (any of the 2009-2011 should have the same info) LINK. LOTS of good info in there. If you have problems finding the info you need, let me know and I will see what I can do.
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I haven't gotten to test this yet with my car as it's at the dealer, but pulled the thing apart today (which was a pain in the ***, and I kind of mangled it)
Here are the pics of the internals. Also, made a video showing how the gear works, buttons get hit, and how to unlock the gear if it's locked in the outer position: Nissan Steering Lock internals, and Unlocking from Locked Position - YouTube Also, here are the high-res versions of the pictures. The forum only lets me do up to 600k. https://picasaweb.google.com/1027199...eat=directlink Background: the car is at the dealer, the dealer wanted $1000 to fix it, so I went there last night and pulled the part out and brought it home. What's weird is that when I pulled it out, it was already in the unlocked position, and I think the switches were being hit. but maybe not all the way in. Regardless, the temporary plan is to just leave the board/motor assembly out of the steering lock all together. The gear is in the unlocked position, and I'll put the board/motor assembly into something else so I can get the car home. I will say that when I opened it up, you can see in the pictures that the switches were totally covered in grease. I use a circuit tester, and tested the switches from the bottom of the board. (See the last picture of the bottom of the board). Going from left to right, and connectors 1-6. When the switch is all the way out, 1, 3, 4, 6 are all connected. When the switch is depressed (there's only in, no half-way as theorized by Fritz in other post). 1 and 6 get disconnected and 2,3,4,5 are all connected. This leads me to believe that ripping the switches off the board completely wouldn't work. Also, I don't think if you were to solder 2,3,4,5 together it would work either, because 1 and 6 would still be connected. |
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Now if we could just find someone to reverse-engineer the electronics, a plugin module to fake out the BCM could be built. Maybe someone could build/sell them a lot cheaper than the ~$700 Nissan wants. :driving: |
Your efforts are commendable but this has already been tried with no success the electrical parts are to fragile to be taken apart screwed around with and put back to together then expected to work.
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I just took it to the dealer, plugged in only the board w/ the motor removed (didn't put the rest of the steering wheel lock in at all). Pushed the two buttons while I hit the start button and it started no problem. There doesn't seem to be any negative impact of just hitting the two buttons, starting the car, then releasing them.
Since this is working, I think now that I have it home I will probably put the board back in the steering lock, without the motor, and will make sure the gear is fully extended pushing the buttons in. If it's this easy, I don't really see any more reason to mess around with soldering the buttons or anything. If I get Nissan to cover the part replacement, I might try screwing around with it then. |
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