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kenchan 11-28-2012 02:24 PM

that's odd because the steering-lock locks/unlocks unrelated to you moving the steering wheel like on most cars. i know on my other cars the steering locks after the car shuts down and i turn the steering wheel left/right forcefully.

on the 370Z:
it will lock when you shut down the car and open a door.
it will unlock when you press the start button.

Tronchaser 11-28-2012 02:30 PM

I dunno. Maybe I'm reading into things that aren't there (paranoia setting in?). All I know is that the light is on and it starts. That was not the case yesterday. It's "locked", and wouldn't do anything until I banged on the module with a hammer.

kenchan 11-28-2012 02:43 PM

cut the brown wire or pull the fuse regardless while it's still unlockable. you might have 2 unrelated issues going at once. change your fob battery if that helps (or measure it with your volt meter).

also did you recently have stereo or something installed that required to pull off the center console? if so, check that the RF antenna is connected. otherwise you wont be able to start the car unless you place your fob in the fob holder thingie.

Tronchaser 11-28-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2037240)
cut the brown wire or pull the fuse regardless while it's still unlockable. you might have 2 unrelated issues going at once. change your fob battery if that helps (or measure it with your volt meter).

also did you recently have stereo or something installed that required to pull off the center console? if so, check that the RF antenna is connected. otherwise you wont be able to start the car unless you place your fob in the fob holder thingie.


Nope, haven't changed or installed a thing. I'll look into changing the FOB battery, but I haven't had a problem with either one yet. I'll go ahead and cut the brown wire.

kenchan 11-28-2012 03:03 PM

make sure you cut the brown wire AFTER you press the start button once (while your car is in ACC). dont cut the wire while the car is off because then you wont be able to unlock it until you re-connect the brown wire again.

Tronchaser 11-28-2012 03:13 PM

Ok, just went out to the car, the light was off, and pulled the fuse! THANK GOD for some good luck. Car starts, all is well. Thanks for the advice kenchan, I didn't feel like forking over lots of money for something that isn't really needed.

+1 for you!

kenchan 11-28-2012 03:15 PM

^^ awesome. good to hear happy endings. :D

kenchan 11-28-2012 08:05 PM

looks like nissan went up to REV-E now... per cossie...

ZMan8 11-28-2012 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2037690)
looks like nissan went up to REV-E now... per cossie...

:shakes head:

kenchan 11-29-2012 09:50 AM

yes, so much for german engineering...

onzedge 11-29-2012 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2037690)
looks like nissan went up to REV-E now... per cossie...

...so much for my Rev D... :shakes head:

kenchan 11-29-2012 10:21 AM

I think best to cut the brown wire or remove fuse while things are still working... unless you have a spare lock.

onzedge 11-29-2012 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2038438)
I think best to cut the brown wire or remove fuse while things are still working... unless you have a spare lock.

I have the custom harness that bypasses the lock. I am installing it on Saturday befoe I drive down to wonderful Dinuba, CA.

rutherfordms 12-01-2012 12:56 PM

Fixed it + step by step
 
:icon18:

Just corrected this problem in my 2010 Nismo. The car was transported to my home from a previous position in NV. During the transport - something happened and this module would not operate upon delivery. My guess is that the trailer took a hard up/down shot on the road and that engaged the module. My steps render the module inoperable but except for time, it's a free fix. Local Nissan dealer quoted me $1200-$1300 for the repair.

1. Tools I used: Small wire cutter, needle nose pliers, T-10 Torx bit + driver, Dremel rotary tool with metal cutting disc, straight screwdriver, 10mm wrench, flashlight, shop rag.

2. Put the back of the driver seat at least straight up, push the seat as far back as possible.

3. Lower both windows at least slightly.

4. Disconnect ground connection at battery.

5. Going under dash, the module is located at the bottom of the steering column right next to the lip of the dash. Rectangle box - has some wordage about discarding if dropped.

6. The two security screws are not very tight at all, just snug. Use the needle nose pliers and back them out a bit, finish with your fingers.

7. Caution, there is yellow grease between the box and steering column. Don't get that on your seats or carpet.

8. With the module hanging down, use the pliers to hold the clip in on the connecter and disconnect the box.

9. On your workbench, you will see that at the top of the module there is a rectangle piece that engages the steering box to lock it. This piece will be at the top and for the module to allow the car to go to ACC, ON and Start, the piece should be recessed - you can take the screwdriver and push it down but it's doubtful if that will release it.

10. Next to where this piece is, you will see a metal plate retainer that has a T-10 Torx screw holding it. Remove the screw and the retainer. It has to come straight up a little and then outward. In my case this still did not release the module, it might in your case.

11. If the module has still not released, take a small hammer, plastic preferable or the end of your screwdriver and rap on the bottom of the module, mine released after 4-5 taps.

12. On the backside of the retainer that you removed in Step 10, there is a clip piece with a spring behind it. Use the screwdriver or needle nose pliers and remove the spring, the clip piece can be removed after the spring it out.

13. Replace the retainer plate and torx screw. The module is essentially inoperable at this point.

14. I went one step further and clipped the wire at Terminal # 1 - Brown color. Cover the end with a small piece of electrical tape and turn the wire back underneath the plastic sheathing.

15. Reconnect the module to the plug connecter, just let it hang.

16. Reconnect the ground side of the battery.

17. You should now be able to go to ACC, ON, and Start the engine.

18. You have some choices on bolting the module back in. I chose to put the screws in a vise and cut slots in the screw heads with the Dremel tool. That way I could use the straight screwdriver to reuse them. You could also obtain metric bolts of the same size and length or you could use the screws as is using the long needle pliers.

19. All done except putting your seat back in position - which will probably drive you nuts! :icon17:

kenchan 12-03-2012 11:58 AM

i recommend one to tap at the broken lock while still on the car (with harness connected) and continue pushing the push-start repetitively until they can momentary revive the steering lock.

once you hear it wind up, keep the car in ACC, and cut the brown wire in the harness leading to the steering lock (per Fritz's DIY) to disable the lock in the 'unlocked' position.

then start the car. and shut off the car and re-try.

no need to remove the steering lock from the car if the broken lock can be revived momentarily.

omm370z 12-13-2012 01:21 AM

So if im not wrong i judt got this issue and the security light is up.

Looking every where found this Security Indicator Symbols | DashboardSymbols.com which means steering lock light is on.

Ingition switch is locked right?

The car had no problem at all but the light is constantly blinking. So it is true that if i wiggle the wheel it will unlock? Or i must remove the switch?

Just the light makes me crazy even more thinking that a 2013 couldnt haf tjis issue as some told me but i got it...

EventHorizoN 12-18-2012 01:05 PM

Last night, I got into my ZCar and it didn't start per usual. The "red key light" indicator is on to the left of dash display. The car will not go into ACC mode, and thus not start.

My vehicle is a 2009 Nissan 370Z - 6speed - sport I've been doing a ton of research to try and resolve this issue. So far this thread has been the most helpful.

I'm assuming my car is currently experiencing "Steering Lock Failure"

My Z currently has approx 70,000 miles on it, does anyone know for sure if this problem has been recalled?!

If I do take my Z to a dealership, do you think it will be replaced as a recall issue?!

Thanks in advance for anyone's help!

Jason S.

SouthArk370Z 12-18-2012 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EventHorizoN (Post 2065506)
... My Z currently has approx 70,000 miles on it, does anyone know for sure if this problem has been recalled?!

If I do take my Z to a dealership, do you think it will be replaced as a recall issue?!

No one has posted anything about a recall that I have noticed. I imagine it will be big news on here and hard to avoid if it ever happens. I encourage you to file a complaint with the NHTSA.

If you want to read more on SLU failures and fixes, check out my Links to posts about Steering Wheel Lock thread.

EventHorizoN 12-18-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2065547)
No one has posted anything about a recall that I have noticed. I imagine it will be big news on here and hard to avoid if it ever happens. I encourage you to file a complaint with the NHTSA.

If you want to read more on SLU failures and fixes, check out my Links to posts about Steering Wheel Lock thread.

Hey bud,

Thanks for writing me back about this, I'm currently waiting for a tow truck:shakes head: I'll see what comes of this when I get to have my car looked at and inspected. I'm going to file a complaint with the government about this being unsafe, being that this has left me stranded and without a car. I'll also be looking into your thread about "Steering Wheel Lock"

Thanks again,

Jason S.

kenchan 12-18-2012 02:31 PM

sucks. did you try tapping at the lock itself? should really give that a try and permanently disable it once it turns on momentarily. (see a few posts up) if you car's out of warranty you could be footing the bill which can cost well north of $800 all together... yikes.

GL!

EventHorizoN 12-18-2012 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2065744)
sucks. did you try tapping at the lock itself? should really give that a try and permanently disable it once it turns on momentarily. (see a few posts up) if you car's out of warranty you could be footing the bill which can cost well north of $800 all together... yikes.

GL!

Hey Ken,

Yea, at this point I have tried just about everything. (disconnecting the battery, getting my back up key, tapping, kicking, biting) you name it. Looks like I'll be holding off on Christmas gifts for family this year. Thanks for the response man! :eek2:

kenchan 12-18-2012 03:10 PM

you try a small metal hammer on the lock? i would tap it directly with some decent force from multiple sides.

sorry to hear about your xmas present situation. not a fun way to spend $800+ :(

EventHorizoN 12-18-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2065829)
you try a small metal hammer on the lock? i would tap it directly with some decent force from multiple sides.

sorry to hear about your xmas present situation. not a fun way to spend $800+ :(

Ken,

What lock are you talking about? (Beneath the steering column)>?

Thanks in advance.

J

kenchan 12-18-2012 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EventHorizoN (Post 2065907)
Ken,

What lock are you talking about? (Beneath the steering column)>?

Thanks in advance.

J

yep, the steering lock. this is wat it looks like if you take a look under your steering column. you have to lay on your back and look up.

this is wat you will see. tap at this thing from all sides and press the push button. if you hear a wind up noise, it released it self and you should cut the brown wire leading to this lock while the car is in ACC.

http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...ock-bottom.jpg

this is wat it looks like from above.
http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...91-unknown.jpg

EventHorizoN 12-18-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2065969)
yep, the steering lock. This is wat it looks like if you take a look under your steering column. You have to lay on your back and look up.

This is wat you will see. Tap at this thing from all sides and press the push button. If you hear a wind up noise, it released it self and you should cut the brown wire leading to this lock while the car is in acc.

http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...ock-bottom.jpg

this is wat it looks like from above.
http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...91-unknown.jpg

rgr that

martin82 12-18-2012 04:20 PM

I still think it is messed up that on my 2012 the lock was removed.... atleast fix it!! I feel u guys with the steering lock issue!!

kenchan 12-18-2012 04:26 PM

yep, i feel the same way. but if the car came with it, not much one can do other than replace it and hope for the best, or disable it while the lock still works. :)

ffarmand 12-18-2012 04:47 PM

@Baer383; where did you get it for that price? mine is out too. 2009 16K miles, revB. thx

EventHorizoN 12-18-2012 05:19 PM

To my dismay, the "Steering Lock" is still in full-effect. Doesn't seem right that we pay this much for a car that isn't working properly. 5k miles to 100k miles electrical problems, mechanical problems, like this should be recalled on all models immediately.. Son of a ***** :owned:

Baer383 12-18-2012 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffarmand (Post 2066072)
@Baer383; where did you get it for that price? mine is out too. 2009 16K miles, revB. thx

I paid about $465 for a new "D" lock but that was a while ago,I work for a very big autobody shop and we buy allot of Nissan parts so I got it thru my dealer.

kenchan 12-18-2012 06:53 PM

$465 is a super deal! :tup: i paid $500 shipped for my RevC last Dec. :)

i still have my working RevB too. :p

Baer383 12-18-2012 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2066214)
$465 is a super deal! :tup: i paid $500 shipped for my RevC last Dec. :)

i still have my working RevB too. :p

Yeah I just traded in my car for a 13 Nismo.problem solved.:p

kenchan 12-18-2012 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2066226)
Yeah I just traded in my car for a 13 Nismo.problem solved.:p

holy crap! congrats!! :tup: you're like nissan's best customer. :icon17:

EventHorizoN 12-18-2012 07:11 PM

Quick Update:

The problem that is occurring is definitely the Dreaded "Steering Lock"... This problem is not covered under warranty, not recalled, and the part will need to be ordered. Without a discount the part retails for approx 800.00 That's not including dealer charges for labor which range between 120.00 - 140.00 per hour. *average* The guy at Nissan said this is a common problem that occurs on the 2009-2011 Nissan's and it makes no sense it hasn't been recalled.

Looks like I'm totally out of luck on this one guys.

kenchan 12-18-2012 07:18 PM

where's the car now? at the dealer? if so, i suggest you go there an try the things noted before paying that kind of money.

Baer383 12-18-2012 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2066235)
holy crap! congrats!! :tup: you're like nissan's best customer. :icon17:

You didn't know this?and I put my SC on it!!!:tup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by EventHorizoN (Post 2066236)
Quick Update:

The problem that is occurring is definitely the Dreaded "Steering Lock"... This problem is not covered under warranty, not recalled, and the part will need to be ordered. Without a discount the part retails for approx 800.00 That's not including dealer charges for labor which range between 120.00 - 140.00 per hour. *average* The guy at Nissan said this is a common problem that occurs on the 2009-2011 Nissan's and it makes no sense it hasn't been recalled.

Looks like I'm totally out of luck on this one guys.

Thanks for telling us but we already knew this.;)

ffarmand 12-18-2012 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2066214)
$465 is a super deal! :tup: i paid $500 shipped for my RevC last Dec. :)

i still have my working RevB too. :p

im looking to order mine tomorrow. any ideas where the best/reliable/cheapest source would be. thx guys

ffarmand 12-18-2012 11:24 PM

@azn370z where did you get it from, thx

kenchan 12-19-2012 10:52 AM

wow, price is quite a bit higher now...

LOCK SET-STEERING - 370Z (Z34) 2009+ :: Nissan Parts, NISMO and Nissan Accessories - Courtesyparts.com
48700-JF00D - Nissan LOCK STEERING

ffarmand 12-19-2012 07:12 PM

Thx kenchan, you're been most helpful. I got a friend to order it from Nissan for ~$550, in stock. Not bad. Going to look closer at your DIY and give it a shot...

On a side note, my dealer's service dept told me Courtesy Nissan - being a 3rd party dealer - doesn't sell OEM parts and that Nissan does not back them up, this is after quoting me $1200 to fix mine... I was going to get the part from Courtesy anyway before my friend offered to get it for me locally, RevD that is.

I'm a little disappointed overall with my 370Z, 3 weeks ago my clutch/master slave cylinder gave out after one tract day... Again my dealer wanted to charge me ~$900 to fix it. Thanks to you guys on this forum; I just bled it and its been fine since...

I got this car this past summer b/c I just wanted a reliable, but at the same time fun car for daily driving/work, but it has let me down more than I expected... Hoping nothing else breaks down on it randomly.


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