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scottIN 11-11-2011 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1402428)
You guys are getting all fancy schmancey with your flashing this and flashing that. It makes me dizzy. :wtf2: :roflpuke2:

Yet it seems like I've read about 75,000 threads on this topic, both about the EVO-R light and the OEM light, and no one that I've read has clearly shown or listed how any normal person like me (insert self B.S. here :stirthepot:) wants to hook this up. All I want is a simple 4th brake only light, that works just like the 3rd brake only light in the spoiler. I THINK all I need to do is hook into the green wire on the drivers side taillight wiring, but I'm still not sure. :icon14:

I don't need all that flashy flashy business. Personally I'm not even fond of it. For example, I hate those Mustang tail light turn signals that sweep from center to out. :thumbsdown:

I'm in the same boat. About the time I think I've got it figured out, I read the next post in a DIY and I'm all confoozed again because everyone's doing different stuff with it. Wish there was a DIY for just 'it lights up when you push the pedal in the middle'.

Bonzo 11-11-2011 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by scottIN (Post 1402696)
I'm in the same boat. About the time I think I've got it figured out, I read the next post in a DIY and I'm all confoozed again because everyone's doing different stuff with it. Wish there was a DIY for just 'it lights up when you push the pedal in the middle'.

Or for us too lazy to drive a stick folks (that's me by the way), the pedal on the left. :icon17:

Has anyone out there just hooked this thing up normal? A.K.A No flashy flashy boom boom? ;)

MattP725 11-11-2011 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1402718)
Or for us too lazy to drive a stick folks (that's me by the way), the pedal on the left. :icon17:

Has anyone out there just hooked this thing up normal? A.K.A No flashy flashy boom boom? ;)

It's not difficult if you read the original post... three leads off the fog; ground, constant on, and flash... ground the light and then install the constant on to the brake light and your set. I don't know the specific wire colors since I haven't received my unit yet but it is pretty simple.

MattP725 11-11-2011 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Svre46 (Post 1402384)
Just use a 12V time delay relay. Basically when you brake the relay energizes and starts the flash. After a set amount of time (let’s say 5 seconds of being energized from hitting the brake) it disengages causing the flash to stop.

Something like this
DC 12V Delay Timer Time Relay 0~30 Second AH3-3 & Base | eBay

Those are exactly what I was looking at... some have a timed on, others have a timed off... kinda bulky but hopefully it would do the trick. I'd rather find a small board with just jumpers or something that I can neatly tuck away but the variability in the settings is nice too.

Bonzo 11-11-2011 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MattP725 (Post 1402759)
It's not difficult if you read the original post... three leads off the fog; ground, constant on, and flash... ground the light and then install the constant on to the brake light and your set. I don't know the specific wire colors since I haven't received my unit yet but it is pretty simple.

Yeah, I know it's not hard (except for getting the old nuts off the factory dummy light), but it's which exact wire I'm trying to figure out. I don't have my car yet either, but since others have already done this, it seems unnecessary to have to splice into 5 wires just to find the right one. Everyone's instructions go down some other road or off to some other tangent. I have not seen a clear concise post with someone just doing it simple the way I want. It would just be nice to know that it's 100% for sure the green wire before I get started.

And I'm not just talking the EVO-R light (which looks like a nice product by the way), because I decided to go with the OEM fog instead, which I believe only has 2 wires, power & ground. I didn't need the flash stuff, and I wanted it to be as bright as possible. From what I've read the OEM light is really bright. It was also cheaper.

gurneyeagle 11-11-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1402775)
Yeah, I know it's not hard (except for getting the old nuts off the factory dummy light), but it's which exact wire I'm trying to figure out. I don't have my car yet either, but since others have already done this, it seems unnecessary to have to splice into 5 wires just to find the right one. Everyone's instructions go down some other road or off to some other tangent. I have not seen a clear concise post with someone just doing it simple the way I want. It would just be nice to know that it's 100% for sure the green wire before I get started.

And I'm not just talking the EVO-R light (which looks like a nice product by the way), because I decided to go with the OEM fog instead, which I believe only has 2 wires, power & ground. I didn't need the flash stuff, and I wanted it to be as bright as possible. From what I've read the OEM light is really bright. It was also cheaper.

Bonzo, since you are getting a 2012, I don't think you will have to sweat taking the plug out. On both my 2011 and a buddy's 2011, neither was a bit of a problem. Maybe the factory ran out of loc-tite after the 2009-2010 run?

Bonzo 11-11-2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 1402912)
Bonzo, since you are getting a 2012, I don't think you will have to sweat taking the plug out. On both my 2011 and a buddy's 2011, neither was a bit of a problem. Maybe the factory ran out of loc-tite after the 2009-2010 run?

That's good news. I hope you're right.

Svre46 11-11-2011 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1402775)
Yeah, I know it's not hard (except for getting the old nuts off the factory dummy light), but it's which exact wire I'm trying to figure out. I don't have my car yet either, but since others have already done this, it seems unnecessary to have to splice into 5 wires just to find the right one. Everyone's instructions go down some other road or off to some other tangent. I have not seen a clear concise post with someone just doing it simple the way I want. It would just be nice to know that it's 100% for sure the green wire before I get started.

And I'm not just talking the EVO-R light (which looks like a nice product by the way), because I decided to go with the OEM fog instead, which I believe only has 2 wires, power & ground. I didn't need the flash stuff, and I wanted it to be as bright as possible. From what I've read the OEM light is really bright. It was also cheaper.

Just use a torch. It makes a HUGE difference with the damn Loctite. You may char the black plastic bracket a little bit but no one will see it A, and B you don’t use it with the Evo-R light anyways.

Svre46 11-11-2011 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MattP725 (Post 1402761)
Those are exactly what I was looking at... some have a timed on, others have a timed off... kinda bulky but hopefully it would do the trick. I'd rather find a small board with just jumpers or something that I can neatly tuck away but the variability in the settings is nice too.

There are numerous other ways. Some companies make a programmable flasher relay (just wire to the constant on the light). It does the flashing for you and then stops. Similar to some motorcycle lights. I figured the timer relay is the most cost effective way for people and you can tuck the relay behind the plastics in the hatch. Plus they have great adjustability. If I still had my Z I would do a full write up. Most people here who are remotely electronically savvy can figure it out. Maybe EVO-R will see everyone’s comments and design the "next generation or another model with different options for people.

gurneyeagle 11-11-2011 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Svre46 (Post 1403185)
There are numerous other ways. Some companies make a programmable flasher relay (just wire to the constant on the light). It does the flashing for you and then stops. Similar to some motorcycle lights. I figured the timer relay is the most cost effective way for people and you can tuck the relay behind the plastics in the hatch. Plus they have great adjustability. If I still had my Z I would do a full write up. Most people here who are remotely electronically savvy can figure it out. Maybe EVO-R will see everyone’s comments and design the "next generation or another model with different options for people.

Here you go:

Blinking Smart Stop - Flashing Brake Light

MattP725 11-12-2011 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 1403233)

Looks at that and it won't work for what I want. I am trying to keep the constant on and make it flash momentarily brighter when I hit the brakes. That unit will only flash the dimmer constant on or flash the already flashing relay and I'm not sure that would look right unless the timing is identical. The times relay above is likely more accurate. There is a circuit board type by a company called Elk that looks promising too.

Blade 02-20-2012 07:20 PM

Recently installed the EVO-R Rear Fog Light from the Z-Store: The Z Store! Nissan-Datsun 240Z-260Z-280Z-280ZX-300ZX(Z31/Z32)-350Z-370Z Parts: EVO-R Rear Fog Flashing LED Kit, 09-12 370Z

Definitely notice that people tend to keep their distance now ;-)

370z_F1StyleRearFogLight.mp4 - YouTube

BeemaaZ 02-20-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade (Post 1555479)
Recently installed the EVO-R Rear Fog Light from the Z-Store: The Z Store! Nissan-Datsun 240Z-260Z-280Z-280ZX-300ZX(Z31/Z32)-350Z-370Z Parts: EVO-R Rear Fog Flashing LED Kit, 09-12 370Z

Definitely notice that people tend to keep their distance now ;-)

370z_F1StyleRearFogLight.mp4 - YouTube

:ugh2:

PaulZ370 02-22-2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade (Post 1555479)
Recently installed the EVO-R Rear Fog Light from the Z-Store: The Z Store! Nissan-Datsun 240Z-260Z-280Z-280ZX-300ZX(Z31/Z32)-350Z-370Z Parts: EVO-R Rear Fog Flashing LED Kit, 09-12 370Z

Definitely notice that people tend to keep their distance now ;-)

370z_F1StyleRearFogLight.mp4 - YouTube

Just finished installing my EVO-R Flashing light. Too late for a drive and I am just too grungy to get into the beautiful leather seats anyway. I can definitely say that it is worth it - it looks AWESOME. Flashing Brake Light and on with Tail Lights. No additional wiring harnesses or switches. Tapped into the Driver side Tail Light Harness, and ran the wires down to the EVO-R light, The nuts that everyone seems to have issues with came off without any issues - I WAS ECSTATIC to say the least when they just spun off - I did twist very carefully and very slowly.

Can't wait till tomorrow... test drive definitely if the weather is not bad... :tup: :driving:

hot370z 02-23-2012 08:56 AM

I just order the EVO-R foglight could I just hook up the the one wire to get flashing and one to the license plate wire to turn on when the headlights are on?

PaulZ370 02-23-2012 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by hot370z (Post 1560374)
I just order the EVO-R foglight could I just hook up the the one wire to get flashing and one to the license plate wire to turn on when the headlights are on?

Don't see why not... Hookup wiring is very simple, it's finding the right wires in your harness to do so and running the wires thru to the light... I hooked up to the left tail light harness which I accessed in the trunk area, and ran the wires very simply behind the bumper cover and taped them to the backside of the steel of the bumper...

You will need to hookup the black (Ground) wire too, otherwise it will not work (Three wires total).

hot370z 02-24-2012 04:59 PM

Just took off my backing plate do you slide the foglight towawad the muffler? Toward the rear? To get it off. Or you have to unbolt it in the rear bumber? Help Fog light doesn't move at all HELP!!!!!

hot370z 02-24-2012 06:21 PM

Ok had no problem getting the srews off. I doublesideed tape the foglight to the bumber do you put back the housing and the backing plate? Or just the backing plate?

PaulZ370 02-24-2012 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hot370z (Post 1563989)
Ok had no problem getting the srews off. I doublesideed tape the foglight to the bumber do you put back the housing and the backing plate? Or just the backing plate?

Just backing plate. There is nothing for the housing to bolt back to once the fake light is out...

hot370z 02-24-2012 08:50 PM

Ok i taped into the orange wire with the RED wire.Then ground with the black wire. I put the white wire to the license plate light I turned on my headlights and the forlight started to blink i thought the only time it blink when you put in reverse. It started to blink HELP.

hot370z 02-24-2012 10:29 PM

Ok help me here Im going to us the driver side rear taillight harness. The wires from the EVO-R The red wire goes to what color wire on the tailight harness,the black goes to what color on the harness and the white wire goes what color on the harness.

370zproject 02-24-2012 10:54 PM

anyone near the tennesse area that has done it wanna come help me do it?

tower74 02-25-2012 12:27 AM

If you have a volt meter...it helps. I installed mine back well over a year ago. I don't know if they fix the color code issue but we took it to the battery of the car to verify which wire went to what...the blinking...the running light etc.
We tapped into the driver side tail light and looked (with the volt meter) to find the brake light...which in turn makes it blink...then located the running light. We didn't cut the extra wire simply because it gives you the option to remove and put it on a new rear clip.

PaulZ370 02-25-2012 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hot370z (Post 1564207)
Ok i taped into the orange wire with the RED wire.Then ground with the black wire. I put the white wire to the license plate light I turned on my headlights and the forlight started to blink i thought the only time it blink when you put in reverse. It started to blink HELP.

Hey Dude - anytime you put power to the WHITE wire, it's going to blink. With the Orange wire being the reverse, anytime you put it in Reverse, you put power to the blinking feature of the light, and it will blink. If you only want it to come on Steady for Reverse, then take the RED wire and connect it to the Orange wire of the car, but that means no Steady On with the parking lights now. Keep in mind anytime you put power to the WHITE wire of the light, it will blink. There is no other way around it.

370zproject 02-25-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 1564651)
Hey Dude - anytime you put power to the WHITE wire, it's going to blink. With the Orange wire being the reverse, anytime you put it in Reverse, you put power to the blinking feature of the light, and it will blink. If you only want it to come on Steady for Reverse, then take the RED wire and connect it to the Orange wire of the car, but that means no Steady On with the parking lights now. Keep in mind anytime you put power to the WHITE wire of the light, it will blink. There is no other way around it.

*brain explode *

PaulZ370 02-25-2012 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 1565448)
*brain explode *

:icon18: :tup: Sorry dude... it made sense to me... LOL! :bowrofl: :roflpuke2:

PaulZ370 02-26-2012 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 1565715)
:icon18: :tup: Sorry dude... it made sense to me... LOL! :bowrofl: :roflpuke2:

Ok - one more time, a little more clearer maybe:

On the EVO-R light there are three wires: Red (Steady On), White (Blinking), and Black (Ground)
On the car there are four wires in the left (Driver's Side) tail light harness that could be used: Green (Brake), Red (Taillights), Orange (Reverse) and Black (Ground)

If you put power (12V) to the WHITE wire on the EVO-R light, the light will blink.
If you put power (12V) to the RED wire on the EVO-R light, it will burn Steady
Black is the Ground Wire on both Car and EVO-R light wiring. You will need to connect the Black Wire on the EVO-R light to the Black Wire in the Tail light's Harness regardless of what else you do with the other wires.

SO...
1, If you want the light to blink on Braking, Connect the WHITE EVO-R wire to the GREEN Tail Light Harness wire
2. If you want the light to Blink on Reverse, Connect the WHITE EVO-R wire to the ORANGE Tail Light Harness wire
3. If you want the light to burn Steady on Parking Lights On, then Connect the RED EVO-R wire to the RED Tail Light Harness wire

... I hope this clarified my previous convoluted post about all that. I wrote it just before I had to run out the door so it came out a little garbled.... :bowrofl: :wtf2::icon14:

hot370z 02-26-2012 12:12 PM

Got it work I connet the WHITE wire form EVO-R to the Orange wire on the taillight then the Red to the RED and BLACK to Ground. Doesn't flash when on reverse. Thats ok I got it to work..I guess the orange it's reverse on my tail light harness.

PaulZ370 02-26-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hot370z (Post 1566634)
Got it work I connet the WHITE wire form EVO-R to the Orange wire on the taillight then the Red to the RED and BLACK to Ground. Doesn't flash when on reverse. Thats ok I got it to work..I guess the orange it's reverse on my tail light harness.

Check make sure you have good connections on the White/Orange pair ...?

370zproject 02-26-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 1565715)
:icon18: :tup: Sorry dude... it made sense to me... LOL! :bowrofl: :roflpuke2:

:gtfo2::wtf2::stirthepot::rofl2:
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Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 1566324)
Ok - one more time, a little more clearer maybe:

On the EVO-R light there are three wires: Red (Steady On), White (Blinking), and Black (Ground)
On the car there are four wires in the left (Driver's Side) tail light harness that could be used: Green (Brake), Red (Taillights), Orange (Reverse) and Black (Ground)

If you put power (12V) to the WHITE wire on the EVO-R light, the light will blink.
If you put power (12V) to the RED wire on the EVO-R light, it will burn Steady
Black is the Ground Wire on both Car and EVO-R light wiring. You will need to connect the Black Wire on the EVO-R light to the Black Wire in the Tail light's Harness regardless of what else you do with the other wires.

SO...
1, If you want the light to blink on Braking, Connect the WHITE EVO-R wire to the GREEN Tail Light Harness wire
2. If you want the light to Blink on Reverse, Connect the WHITE EVO-R wire to the ORANGE Tail Light Harness wire
3. If you want the light to burn Steady on Parking Lights On, then Connect the RED EVO-R wire to the RED Tail Light Harness wire

... I hope this clarified my previous convoluted post about all that. I wrote it just before I had to run out the door so it came out a little garbled.... :bowrofl: :wtf2::icon14:

:tup:its cool iv never worked on anything eletrical before so took a min lol

Mandingo 06-09-2012 12:06 AM

Thanks for the great write up!

One question though.
I hooked up the flashing wire to the reverse light and the steady-on wire to the brakes. For some reason, the evo-r light is very dim with the brakes on and the LEDs do not light up evenly. When flashing in reverse, it is 2x brighter and the LEDs seem to light up evenly.

All my connections look good. Is there anything that might cause the dim light that I'm not thinking of?

LMBmikeZ 06-09-2012 07:53 AM

As far as the light being dim, that sounds a little off it should be fairly bright :iagree: though I would also check my ground connection cars hate having crappy grounds. Also it will not get any brighter when you apply the brakes, it won't do that with out special electronics (which would be costly and I have yet to see any one do it yet, although my old man explained the process that would be needed and which electronic parts I would need.)

One Question though : you said that you wired the steady-on wire to the brakes. Now was this to the wire for the brake signal or for the night lights(turn you headlights/taillights on)? IMO because the fog light doesn't brighten with brakes applied, it is better just to tie it into the night lights so that way it just comes on and stays on rather then having it come n every time you hit the brakes because it looks cheap when it lights up but is no where near as bright as the rest of the brake lights.

MattP725 06-09-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mandingo (Post 1762395)
Thanks for the great write up!

One question though.
I hooked up the flashing wire to the reverse light and the steady-on wire to the brakes. For some reason, the evo-r light is very dim with the brakes on and the LEDs do not light up evenly. When flashing in reverse, it is 2x brighter and the LEDs seem to light up evenly.

All my connections look good. Is there anything that might cause the dim light that I'm not thinking of?

What you are hoping for wont work...

The steady on is dimmer than the brightness of the flash... when produced it was means to match the dimmer tail lights when steady on, so the way you have it wired it will always mismatch (brakes brighter than steady on, tail lights brighter than nothing on obviously).

Wire the steady on to the regular taillight, and wire the flash to the brakes/reverse... only way it will look 100% right in my opinion.

If you want something to purely function as an additional brake light, go with the OEM one... it is brighter than the stock tail lights.

VDC_OFF 07-13-2012 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by runchuckrun (Post 856644)
I surfed all of the posts and came up with Green wire = tail light and Orange = reverse. The orange was correct, and the light blinked when I put the car in reverse. The green wire was the brake (it DID say that green was the brake in the instructions that came with the light). The instructions showed the parking lights to be the red wire and that was correct as well, so I must have read a post incorrectly.

Thanks for all the info guys, this is what I needed! Reps given! Just bought a used one with no instructions ;)

Red_Z 09-11-2012 11:30 PM

does it has to be the hazard switch? Anyone know will the Sync Rev switch works?

cHuNsTa 09-15-2012 07:09 PM

so i just ordered mines and i had a problem fitting the new light with the grey housing that sandwiches the back plate and the black housing where the 2 10mm nuts are screwed to. any input on how you guys got that light to fit?

choibora 09-15-2012 07:37 PM

I just used 3M tape on back of the fog light. Not have had any issue. Trick was not to use too much in case it had to be replaced. I didn't use the original housing where the screws go in....couldn't see how I was suppose to use that with fog light.

cHuNsTa 09-15-2012 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by choibora (Post 1918175)
I just used 3M tape on back of the fog light. Not have had any issue. Trick was not to use too much in case it had to be replaced. I didn't use the original housing where the screws go in....couldn't see how I was suppose to use that with fog light.

same here so i wanted to make sure. that helped a lot thanks!

theboydiddy 09-17-2012 09:07 AM

heelllp me please. !!!
i got the evo fog lights and i have no idea what to do with it.
alright. mine didnt come with the wires loose like yours on the pic. they came all hooked to something which is a clip on (or appears to be) and i thought all you had to do was to clip on to something already in the car. anyways... the guys from the shop installed my stillen intake and the fog lights for me. my fog lights are on right now but it is NOT working =(. it isnt connected. they said i need some DI...something, so i can connect it and a switch -__-
i dont want anything fancy. i ONLY want it to light up whenever i press the break. THATS IT !!!!.
what the heck do i need to do ?

VDC_OFF 09-17-2012 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by theboydiddy (Post 1919697)
what the heck do i need to do ?

take a picture and show us what you are talking about.


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