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Zyonara 03-10-2010 01:41 AM

DIY: Rearview Camera & DVD
 
After months of debating, I finally pulled the trigger on purchasing the NAVtool, I got lucky and found one at a local stereo shop that was going out of business, so for $210 they sold me the NAVtool and a keyhole rearview camera.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11655-i001.jpg
NAVTOOL INC
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11656-i002.jpg
I popped out the little blue square for my camera.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11657-i003.jpg
drilled a hole in square to mount camera.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11658-i004.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11659-i005.jpg
Plug square back in and route wires into the trunk area.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11671-i007.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11672-i008.jpg
Wrap wires and route to cabin.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11662-i012.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11661-i009.jpg
Remove radio and nav monitor.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11673-i010.jpg
unplug harness from back of monitor.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11674-i011.jpg
plug in Y-harness that comes with the NAVtool.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11663-i013.jpg
follow wires going into left rear taillight and tap into orange reverse light wire.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11664-i014.jpg
solder and heat shrink.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11675-i015.jpg
in the black plug that connects to the center console, tap into the yellow wire for acc/on power (note: there are only 2 wires connected to this plug, a black and a yellow wire.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11665-i016.jpg
While I was in there, I went ahead and tapped into the same acc/on wire for my radar detector and dvd player.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11666-i017.jpg
out of the NAVtool, connect the green, black, and 2-white wires to a suitable ground, I chose a bolt on the e-brake plate. Connect the blue wire and positive camera wire to the wire you used to tap into the orange reverse light wire. Notice the black/red wire on passenger seat, that is the toggle switch that will allow you to bypass factory screen for a connected video supply, I have a DVD player for the bypass.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11667-i018.jpg
You can put the module in the center console, but I chose to mount it behind my driver seat with two-sided tape.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11660-i006.jpg
Clean everything up and enjoy!
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11668-i019.jpg
Camera automatically turns on when shifting into reverse.
http://www.the370z.com/members/zyona...11669-i020.jpg
Kill Bill 2 for my passenger with e-brake down and in gear!
Hope this DIY was helpful for my fellow Z owners!:driving:

quagmire87 03-10-2010 02:30 AM

wow nice!

ducky 03-10-2010 04:09 AM

so the camera came with the navtool? which mean dont need the nissan rearview camera..cool im on this asap..nice write up

Zyonara 03-10-2010 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ducky (Post 438048)
so the camera came with the navtool? which mean dont need the nissan rearview camera..cool im on this asap..nice write up

Camera was seperate, it was a clearance item at the shop I bought it from.

z370z 03-10-2010 07:59 AM

Great DIY! I've been looking into the navtool for months, guess it's time to finally pull the trigger! Thanks

Jeffblue 03-10-2010 08:11 AM

I called navtool, and despite their site saying it works for the 09-10 model 370z, it only works for the 2009. The guy said they are working on a fix so it will work for the 2010. He said to call back in a month or two. If i find out anything else i'll let you guys know.

Thanks for putting this write up... up. it was very helpful and i plan to use it once i get my Z and my navtool :)

Chriz 03-10-2010 01:36 PM

I have the same iphone case!...Great writeup haha.:tup:

Hugoneus 03-10-2010 02:12 PM

Great Job!

I too called NAV TOOL, their existing models DO NOT WORK WITH 2010 systems.

rarwz 03-11-2010 08:11 PM

Would love to see some pictures, was going to pull the trigger next paycheck on this.
Do you have to plug the NAVTOOL in behind the screen, or could you plug it in at the bose nav unit in the trunk? I would assume it would be be an easier install if the NAVTOOL was in the trunk.

Zyonara 03-11-2010 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rarwz (Post 440966)
Would love to see some pictures, was going to pull the trigger next paycheck on this.
Do you have to plug the NAVTOOL in behind the screen, or could you plug it in at the bose nav unit in the trunk? I would assume it would be be an easier install if the NAVTOOL was in the trunk.

it plugs directly behind the monitor with a Y-adapter, It was very easy to install. If I can do it, anyone can. You don't see the pics in this DIY?

rarwz 03-12-2010 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zyonara (Post 441220)
it plugs directly behind the monitor with a Y-adapter, It was very easy to install. If I can do it, anyone can. You don't see the pics in this DIY?

Nope, I dont see them. Looking through the HTML I see that there are IMG tags for the pictures, but even going to them individually they dont work (aka if I go to http://www.the370z.com/members/gamma...11659-i005.jpg nothing loads)

I did find the gallery though Nissan 370Z Forum - Zyonara's Album: Rearview cam and DVD player but the pictures definitely dont load up inline for me... anyone else?

z370z 03-12-2010 07:55 AM

The first time i read this thread they showed up, however they don't anymore.

jagodago 03-12-2010 05:38 PM

So this might be a stupid question but how did you remove the square thing from the bumper? My basic question is do you have to go in from the back or just slip a knife or something in there and pop it out.

Zyonara 03-13-2010 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jagodago (Post 442358)
So this might be a stupid question but how did you remove the square thing from the bumper? My basic question is do you have to go in from the back or just slip a knife or something in there and pop it out.

pop it out from the bottom edge of the square with something plastic.

Zyonara 03-14-2010 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z370z (Post 441503)
The first time i read this thread they showed up, however they don't anymore.

Sorry guys, AK370Z had to help me fix the picture issue. It should be back up now, let me know if its not.

rarwz 03-16-2010 02:59 PM

Just bought mine last night...
Wanted to give everyone a heads up on these units.
DO NOT BUY THEM FROM THE WEBSITE tvandnav.com
You can buy them on ebay from the manufacturer. The account is eBay My World - parts_for_integrat
I saw some posts on an Acura board, and people were saying these are the same red units (although the ebay pix are grey). My paypal slip has the right email/website as from tvandnav.com. Also as you can see its $225 (not $350), and you can make an offer. I got mine for less than $225!

rarwz 03-17-2010 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rarwz (Post 449164)
Just bought mine last night...
Wanted to give everyone a heads up on these units.
DO NOT BUY THEM FROM THE WEBSITE tvandnav.com
You can buy them on ebay from the manufacturer. The account is eBay My World - parts_for_integrat
I saw some posts on an Acura board, and people were saying these are the same red units (although the ebay pix are grey). My paypal slip has the right email/website as from tvandnav.com. Also as you can see its $225 (not $350), and you can make an offer. I got mine for less than $225!

As an update, just got my unit in the mail today. As stated, its the red one directly from the manufacturer. I would definitely recommend this route as you save atleast $125 (or more :))
I will add an additional how-to on my experience at the end of this thread when I get time to do the install.

rarwz 03-28-2010 11:02 AM

Finally did my install
 
So my camera finally arrived and I got around to finishing my install. I would say on a difficulty level this was a 7/10. It took me about 9hrs to finish everything and make it look as good as I wanted it to. Zyonara's post was extremly helpful, and all I really want to do is add a few more pictures and tips to his collection as its really that good. In order to keep this post easier to read and not flip back and forth, i'm going to quote Zyonara's pictures in the appropriate spots.

Parts:
NavTool $200.00 (see previous post about ebay)
Reverse Camera (See References, same as AK370Z) ~$30.00
Serial (db9) Cable $19.99 Gigaware 6-Ft. Serial RS-232C 9M-9F Cable : Computer Cables | RadioShack.com
Various Electrical Connectors, Line, Tape
2 small screws

Tools:
Phillips & Straight screw driver
3/8 Drill Bit (a little bigger would have been better)
7/16 Drill Bit

References:
This Post
AK370z's Original Post http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/5...am-ak370z.html
Arizona Z http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/3...-i-wanted.html
LudeSH01 http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/1...dl-system.html
TennesseeZ http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...ket-radio.html


Install:
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I did this install in 2 parts (since my navtool showed up a week before my camera). Step 1 is the NavTool itself. A great deal of this part is covered in TennesseeZ's post, so check that out!

1) Remove the shifter knob and Trim. Simple screw off of the shift knob, then pull up on the ring of trim around it. It is a tight fit to get in/out, but no worries.
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...ll/shifter.jpg
2) Remove the kneepads. 2 screws each, then pull towards the car door
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...ll/kneepad.jpg
3) Remove the dash. 2 screws at the bottom by the knee pads, then pull towards you. There are 3 connectors on the back: Car Start (i never got this off), Stereo Controller (upper), Air Bag. Disconnect all, or if you can't get the Car Start one off, no biggy, just move the trim piece to the side.
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...stall/dash.jpg
4) Remove navScreen. 2 screws at the bottom, that also double to hold in the top of the stereo. Unscrew then take out from the bottom and go down, sliding out. There are 2 bars that go up from the top of the screen to keep it in, but they are only attached to the NAV screen itself. Top tab pieces are the black parts at the top of the screen in this picture:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zyonara (Post 437988)

5) Attach the NavScreen connectors/tap from NavTool
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zyonara (Post 437988)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zyonara (Post 437988)

5b) I removed the radio trim in order to get the NavTool cable to run easier. 4 screws was all it took and then just pull forward. I ran the serial end of the NavTool cable down the right side, next to teh stereo, and down to the shifter. The cable is short, so thats where the extension comes in.
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...tall/dash2.jpg
6) Remove the center console. There are 4 screws, 2 in front under the radio, and 1 on each side behind the seats (1st and last picture). With those 4 out, pull the cup holder out of its place by just yanking up (3rd picture). I disconnected the seat heater buttons also to make this a little easier. Unplug the IPOD connector (you will have to fee around, 4th picture). Now you will need to loosen the nut on the parking brake. You do this so that you can pull the lever up farther and get the center console out (2nd to last picture).
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...all/center.jpg
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...ll/center2.jpg
7) Now on the black plug (2nd picture) cut back the tape a bit, and you want to tap the yello wire (Should be the black w/ white stripe 12v). This is your power for the box, connect the power cable from NavTool.
PLEASE NOTE do not run your blue wire from NavTool to this...
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...all/center.jpg
8) Ground the rest of your wires to a bolt on the body (Should be 2 white, green and black). I agreed with zyonara and used the bolt by the emergency brake
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMAG0022.jpg
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMAG0023.jpg
9) The serial cable that taps the Video Screen wire only goes to about your shifter. I didn't notice until after the car was 1/2 apart, but in the very left side of this picture, you see where the cable extends to (its black, then connects to a grey wire). This is about where mine went to also, and where that serial cable extension comes into play. Connect it there to get the extra distance you will need.
10) Run your RCA video cable (for the rearviewcamera) and the blue (backup power indicator) cable through the passthru area to the back of the car.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zyonara (Post 437988)

11) If you want you can now reassemble the front area!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PART 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1) Remove the trunk mat(s) and the pastic liner under that. Part 1, 2, 9 from the following diagram
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...tall/trunk.jpg
Also remove the trunk privacy screen thing if your car has one (pull the end of one side towards the center and it will come right out).
2) Remove spare tire and Bose unit, they both come out via that large hand bolt thing (light grey in color i think). Part 13 from the diagram before. You have to twist this thing for a while.

--STILL TO BE EDITED UNDER THIS LINE--
3) Remove the side panels (i couldn't get my panels out) Part 7 in the diagram and the same on the opposite side, and the foam under them, Part 10 and more 12. I got my panels loose, but couldn't get them out (not sure if it was just 1 more clip or what). The foam can be yanked (to the center). It will rip the bottom a little, but I'm not too worried about that. In order to get the side foam out, you have to release Part 5 on the diagram (on both sides).
4) Remove front foam: part 3 from the blow-up diagram. If you don't remove the side panels (Part 7) You will have to play with this a little to get it out if you didn't remove the rear side panels like I was not able to.
5) Find the big bulk of wires wrapped up in the black sleeve on the drivers side (or passenger?) of the car. I made my tap where the block is located, as that block introduced a few more orange wires just for confusion. Find the orange wire and tap it, mine was the smaller of the 2 (2nd guess). Now I found this on the DRIVERS SIDE of the car, where as some other pictures lead me to believe it was on the passenger side. You are connecting the BLUE cable from the NavTool, as well as the power for the camera (although you could wire the camera to a source that has power when the car is on, may give you a quicker signal).
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMAG0024.jpg
This was the opposite in my car, that thick bunch of cables was on the DRIVERS SIDE.
6) Connect your ground. I did this against Part 6 from the trunk diagram, but there is a bolt a little higher that has quite a few ground wires run to it from the factory. Either will do fine.
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMAG0025.jpg
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMAG0026.jpg
6a) Now is a good time to test out your install to make sure you have all your connections correct, and before drilling the outside of the car. You can just connect your camera and throw the car in reverse (while started) to make sure it works!
7) We now need to make our hole that will bring the wires from the exterior of the body to the interior of the body. Drill hole on outside for car. Where I did it was very thin, so it only took a few seconds to get through. I used a 3/8 bit, but that wasn't large enough for the RCA cable and I had to wiggle the 3/8 around a bit to enlarge the hole.
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMAG0028.jpg
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMAG0029.jpg
8) Run your power and RCA cable through. Doing this now will help you get a better mount for the camera. From the inside of the trunk, pop in (to the inside) the rubber molding type piece that has the wire pass-thru. Keep this out for now. Get a helper, or a coat-hanger, or something so that you can push your wires from the camera UP to where the molding piece was. Make a cut in the rubber molding so your wires can pass through it. Then replace the molding.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zyonara (Post 437988)

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMAG0030.jpg
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMAG0034.jpg
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMAG0035.jpg
9) Now mount camera. I pre-drilled to prevent a split in the plastic using a 7/16. The screws I had laying around, spray painted black to help them blend in a little better. Make sure to clutch the drill to very low (1) and be gentle. Stripping the plastic on the body is a bad bad thing!
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMAG0027.jpg
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMAG0032.jpg
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMAG0033.jpg
10) Connect your RCA cable as well as your power cable, put all the pieces of your car back in and your done!

Final Product!
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMAG0037.jpg

ricer333 03-29-2010 03:20 PM

Is there a reason why one camera mount shows the Yellow depth lines (as the G37) and the other does not? Is it a difference in the camera purchased or the software running on the NavTool?

rarwz 03-29-2010 03:23 PM

I ordered what I thought was the same as AK370Z from his post. Same seller, same specs, same look. I believe his had the green/yellow/red, while mine is all yelow with '2,3,4'. Not sure how or why though, cameras looks the same but no telling if they actually are. Those lines are from the camera, not NavTool though.

TreeSemdyZee 04-02-2010 09:14 PM

Awesome on the rear bumper install Zyonara. I was just wondering today if anyone had put a camera in that spot. It just looks logical.

Do you have any problems in bright sunlight with it in that position?

Zyonara 04-05-2010 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 478496)
Awesome on the rear bumper install Zyonara. I was just wondering today if anyone had put a camera in that spot. It just looks logical.

Do you have any problems in bright sunlight with it in that position?

Thanks TreeSemdyZee! I had to put something in that little square cutout cuz it just looked out of place with the car lines. No problems with bright sunlight however the camera was a very cheap cam with no IR so the only problem is at night, I was thinking of adding brighter reverse lights.

Minicobra1 04-06-2010 04:28 AM

subscribed for a future mod :tup:

jayl 06-20-2010 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 483128)
subscribed for a future mod :tup:


x2

drtony 08-13-2010 04:22 PM

dvd player
 
do you need a separate DVD player. I saw a comment that the factory setup can not play DVDs.

J. Dub 09-30-2010 04:22 PM

This is great. Thank u

SeattleLion 10-01-2010 10:53 AM

NavTool now has a model for the 2010. You need to order it directly from them (so no bargain price, in fact it is more than the standard 2009 NavTool). Also, it is not plug and play. You have to interrupt the video line to the nav screen directly.

I am having mine installed next week by a professional installer. I like the lcense plate location. It is out of the way and less subject to road dirt.

Jeffblue 10-01-2010 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeattleLion (Post 746097)
NavTool now has a model for the 2010. You need to order it directly from them (so no bargain price, in fact it is more than the standard 2009 NavTool). Also, it is not plug and play. You have to interrupt the video line to the nav screen directly.

I am having mine installed next week by a professional installer. I like the lcense plate location. It is out of the way and less subject to road dirt.


post the results in a new thread!

DeLRo 10-23-2010 04:31 PM

Zyonara or rarwz would you happen to have a bigger picture of the back of the stock NAV units wiring harness that shows the wiring color of each wire connected into the plug-in.

And to anyone else out there that may have what I'm searching for. What I'm really looking for is a pic of the 2010 harness so I can confirm the location to wire into the stock camera settings.

rarwz 10-24-2010 10:04 AM

nope, can't say that i do. sorry!

DeLRo 10-25-2010 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rarwz (Post 779056)
nope, can't say that i do. sorry!

No worries. I just pulled mine out this morning and got what I needed.

Paul_S 03-12-2011 06:56 AM

Quick question guys - it says in the PDF on the NavTool site that the 370Z version should be plugged into the nav and not the back of the screen. However, it looks like it's plugged into the back of the screen here.

Who is right? I hope NavTool is because it would be an easier job!

rarwz 03-13-2011 09:46 AM

When I did my writeup there was no instructions from navtool, I see where they say that on teh website, but I have no idea where that interface is

Paul_S 03-14-2011 03:32 PM

Thanks for replying :)

On my car the nav is a DVD-based system and the disc is loaded behind a flap behind the drivers seat - this is the actual nav computer too. I guess it's similar in yours.

Since its in the boot (trunk) of the car then it would be an easier install because the reverse light feed is there, you could take the power from the nav computer and you don't need to pull the dash apart.

I'm hoping to buy one of these so I'll let you know how I get on :)

Paul_S 04-02-2011 06:36 AM

Help!!!

I'm just fitting this right now and I have a problem - the screen shows the nav whatever I do. At first I thought I'd wired it wrong but when I was diagnosing it I made a discovery...

When I remove the 9-pin connector from the NavTool box the nav screen still shows. This makes me think the loom on the 'Y' shaped wire is wrong. My car is a 2009 UK model.

Could someone do me a favour and pull the 9-pin wire from there box and confirm the screen goes blank?

By the way, I did get in contact with NavTool before I started the job and they said the cable should go straight into the back of the screen so this is what I have done.

Any help much appreciated :)

Paul_S 04-02-2011 04:52 PM

I've emailed tech support but in the mean time I've been looking into the wiring. I'm convinced it's because the loom is wrong for my car. Checking the wiring I can see it's trying to switch the correct cables when looking at the US schematics. I think the UK schematics must be different. Strange, you would have thought the screens would be the same for both.

I wonder if my screen is the same as the 2010 ones in the US? Maybe the other type of switcher will work. However, I don't have the reversing camera option on the screen menu...

Paul_S 04-02-2011 04:52 PM

I've emailed tech support but in the mean time I've been looking into the wiring. I'm convinced it's because the loom is wrong for my car. Checking the wiring I can see it's trying to switch the correct cables when looking at the US schematics. I think the UK schematics must be different. Strange, you would have thought the screens would be the same for both.

I wonder if my screen is the same as the 2010 ones in the US? Maybe the other type of switcher will work. However, I don't have the reversing camera option on the screen menu...

Paul_S 04-08-2011 05:19 PM

OK, so nearly a week goes by and I've heard nothing from NavTool tech support. I've sent reminder emails too.

It looks like a good product (once I can get it to work) but the support is zero right now :(

Paul_S 04-16-2011 01:04 PM

Right, I finally got this working today. I've still not heard back from Navtool and have to give them 0 out of 100 for tech support. If I could give them less than zero I would.

In the end I got hold of the US & UK car wiring diagrams and remade the y shaped loom myself. I'm really pleased with the result.

Like I said - nice product, just don't expect to hear from them once they have your money.

doubleG370Z 04-16-2011 04:25 PM

/\ I'm having the problem of no backup camera image when I shift into reverse. Double checked the wiring & very sure that wiring has been done right, oem nav screen works fine & operates the way it should but still on backup image.

You mentioned about the plug & play harness...initially the harness adapter end to oem nav screen wouldn't simply slide in without some effort b/c a portion of this plug was sitting high.

I've emailed tech support at Navitool & waiting response.


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