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370zproject 10-06-2011 05:05 PM

My dad wants to buy a polisher ideas?
 
what s a good starter polisher that will be hard to burn the paint with?

AdamsPolishes 10-06-2011 05:40 PM

Porter Cable 7424xp and its pretty much impossible to burn the paint with it.

Porter Cable Polisher, Porter Cable Polishing Pads and Polish

wheee! 10-06-2011 05:41 PM

+1000 ^^^^

370zproject 10-06-2011 06:09 PM

thankss know a good meguires polish to use with it after a claybar?

joshs09slvrZ 10-06-2011 07:00 PM

Either the PC7424XP or the Flex DA. Grab a bottle of M105 and M205 for the polishes. You could even pick up a bottle of 3M Ultra Fine to really bring out the gloss in your car.

370zproject 10-06-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by joshs09slvrZ (Post 1347252)
Either the PC7424XP or the Flex DA. Grab a bottle of M105 and M205 for the polishes. You could even pick up a bottle of 3M Ultra Fine to really bring out the gloss in your car.

im assuming you wax after ? and use both?

joshs09slvrZ 10-06-2011 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 1347254)
im assuming you wax after ? and use both?

The 105 and 205 are strictly a polish, so you will need to wax afterward to protect the clearcoat. There are some OK products that you can get OTC, but there are much better products that you can get offline for about the same price. You have waxes and sealants. Sealants are typically synthetic and last longer than your typical carnauba wax. It just depends what you want to choose. My car is garage kept and I park in a garage at work so I don't mind using a wax...but sometimes I'll throw on a sealant instead just to change it up.

TreeSemdyZee 10-06-2011 09:09 PM

I bought the Meguiar's G110v2 a couple of years ago that is made by PC.
I bought it partially because it had a three year warranty and it was cheaper than the PC at the time.

370zproject 10-06-2011 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by joshs09slvrZ (Post 1347352)
The 105 and 205 are strictly a polish, so you will need to wax afterward to protect the clearcoat. There are some OK products that you can get OTC, but there are much better products that you can get offline for about the same price. You have waxes and sealants. Sealants are typically synthetic and last longer than your typical carnauba wax. It just depends what you want to choose. My car is garage kept and I park in a garage at work so I don't mind using a wax...but sometimes I'll throw on a sealant instead just to change it up.

my car has been garage kept for 6 moths but for the first 2 yrs nothing but outdoors and rain was my dd still is bet will not be snowed on this yr

Zaggeron 10-06-2011 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by joshs09slvrZ (Post 1347252)
Either the PC7424XP or the Flex DA. Grab a bottle of M105 and M205 for the polishes. You could even pick up a bottle of 3M Ultra Fine to really bring out the gloss in your car.

+1

Frankly, unless your paint is in bad shape you probably won't need the M105. M205 has been good enough for my needs with Platinum Graphite.

joshs09slvrZ 10-07-2011 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron (Post 1347575)
+1

Frankly, unless your paint is in bad shape you probably won't need the M105. M205 has been good enough for my needs with Platinum Graphite.

That is because we have soft paint lol. I've never used anything more aggressive than 205. It's good to have the 105 though just in case of a deeper scratch or something.

Zaggeron 10-07-2011 07:27 AM

^^^

Yup. Since you more or less have to buy it online, you might as well get both 105 and 205

370zproject 10-07-2011 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by joshs09slvrZ (Post 1347647)
That is because we have soft paint lol. I've never used anything more aggressive than 205. It's good to have the 105 though just in case of a deeper scratch or something.

does a kitten failing to jump on my z and slideing down the back fender count as a deep scratch or what about bird poop ?....

Zaggeron 10-08-2011 12:35 AM

^^^ Poop might stain which is harder to get out and it depends on the kitten. Pics of the damage?

joshs09slvrZ 10-08-2011 02:53 PM

If your fingernail catches on the scratch, you're going to need an aggressive polish such as 105. M205 is a finer polish (I use it as a middle polish) and can't really remove anything deeper than a swirl. Also, for what it's worth, M105 is very versatile in the sense that you can use it with a wool pad for the deep stuff (never use wool on our cars unless absolutely necessary), or you can use it with a mild polishing pad.

370zproject 10-08-2011 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by joshs09slvrZ (Post 1349639)
If your fingernail catches on the scratch, you're going to need an aggressive polish such as 105. M205 is a finer polish (I use it as a middle polish) and can't really remove anything deeper than a swirl. Also, for what it's worth, M105 is very versatile in the sense that you can use it with a wool pad for the deep stuff (never use wool on our cars unless absolutely necessary), or you can use it with a mild polishing pad.

it dissapears with the 3m scratch remover untill i was it a few times then re apply and wax

joshs09slvrZ 10-09-2011 08:10 AM

The 3M scratch remover is trash. It's a bottle full of fillers. That's why you see the scratch reappears after you wash it...because the fillers are washing out. You could get some Meg's Ultra Compound from Wal-Mart and use a MF towel to spot buff it out.

AdamsPolishes 10-10-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by joshs09slvrZ (Post 1350086)
It's a bottle full of fillers. That's why you see the scratch reappears after you wash it...because the fillers are washing out.

BINGO! :iagree:

B&W_Evader 10-10-2011 03:14 PM

Old school... Meguires #9 (swirl remover) for fine polishing works great on fingernail scratches around the door handle, #6, (much more aggressive) after color sanding.

#9 can be used to remove light ozide layer too but it's a lot of rubbing.
MeguiarsDirect.com: Swirl Remover

370zproject 10-10-2011 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 1351649)
Old school... Meguires #9 (swirl remover) for fine polishing works great on fingernail scratches around the door handle, #6, (much more aggressive) after color sanding.

#9 can be used to remove light ozide layer too but it's a lot of rubbing.
MeguiarsDirect.com: Swirl Remover

work with a buffer?

moto_italia 10-10-2011 06:59 PM

Griot's Car Care Products. Google it.

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DetailersDomain 10-11-2011 08:05 AM

If you want a complete kit with Meguiar's polishes it will be hard to beat this set up here.

There will be some learning curve but this is a great set up.

Porter Cable with Meg's DA Microfiber System.

370zproject 10-11-2011 09:16 AM

i think that what my dad bought ok so i wash good , dry , clay , wash , polish wash then wax corrrect?

kenchan 10-11-2011 11:46 AM

or just get the Griot's set. they have a super easy thing going with basically only 2 pads to choose from. orange pad for polishes, red pad for sealants and waxes. doesn't get any easier.

ive been using their set on my cars for years. absolutely no issue and each time my car turns out looking concourse ready. :)

i have both 6" and 3" random orbitals.

Phaddi_inc 10-11-2011 04:55 PM

Why not a PC with the Adams polishes kit? Have you watched the Junkman videos? it may answer many questions you have...I have a black 370 and had excellent results using the Adams line up.

moto_italia 10-11-2011 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 1352731)
i think that what my dad bought ok so i wash good , dry , clay , wash , polish wash then wax corrrect?

I wash, clay with Griot's Speedshine, polish and then wax. Not sure if drying before using clay is totally necessary as you're going to spray the paint with a lubricant (Speedshine) to make the clay slide across the paint. As far as washing before or after polishing, I've not done that. Once I finish polishing I really don't want anything on the paint before the wax goes down.

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joshs09slvrZ 10-11-2011 07:48 PM

Sometimes it's necessary to clean the car after polishing because of all the dust.

moto_italia 10-11-2011 07:49 PM

^ Ah. Good point - makes sense.

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370zproject 10-11-2011 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by joshs09slvrZ (Post 1353669)
Sometimes it's necessary to clean the car after polishing because of all the dust.

so wash clay polish wash wax? and whats a good polish i cant get from a auto zone or walmart? the buffer got here today

370zproject 10-13-2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 1351649)
Old school... Meguires #9 (swirl remover) for fine polishing works great on fingernail scratches around the door handle, #6, (much more aggressive) after color sanding.

#9 can be used to remove light ozide layer too but it's a lot of rubbing.
MeguiarsDirect.com: Swirl Remover

ok ima gonna use this on the entire car after the wash and clay do i wash it all off when i finish the polishing?

370zproject 10-16-2011 04:59 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Attachment 35992
took 4 hours i would not reccomend the mequires ultimate polish or wax polish dried really hard after 5 seconds and took several wax tries to get it off witch left wet looking streak went back to useing the other meguires wax
Attachment 35993 he was happy


THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP MINE IS NEXT !

joshs09slvrZ 10-16-2011 05:11 PM

If you are going to continue polishing your cars or other cars, invest in a bottle of Meguair's M105 and M205. They are fantastic polishes.

370zproject 10-16-2011 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by joshs09slvrZ (Post 1361682)
If you are going to continue polishing your cars or other cars, invest in a bottle of Meguair's M105 and M205. They are fantastic polishes.

iv got the meguairs swirl remover 2.0 on the way gonne use that after the clay

joshs09slvrZ 10-17-2011 12:23 PM

That stuff is ok...still has fillers in it so you're really not "removing" anything. And to be completely honest, most polishes has a filling effect to them, that's why you have to do IPA wipedowns to ensure you don't leave any oil residue on the surface that could mask minor defects.

370zproject 10-17-2011 09:38 PM

ah

Zaggeron 10-17-2011 10:52 PM

The M105 and 205 are part of their "prosumer" line and are much better than the Meguiar's stuff you'll find in your typical auto parts store.

370zproject 10-20-2011 12:15 AM

will try next year lol gonna clay and use the swirwl remover then wax XD

Pelican170 10-21-2011 11:29 AM

Hey Guys,

Good info on there. I am in the process of looking to be more involved in my car care paint finish and have been reading about what is best. It seems the Porter Cable mentioned is best for beginners, and there is tons of info on polishes and waxes it seems. My main questions come from exactly what pad to use for a Polish and for Waxing/Sealants. Also, has anyone used the Mothers 3 step program ive read about? Basically just a prewax cleaner, glaze and wax..
Also, when you are going to buff off the residue from polishes/waxes, do you have to do this by hand (Microfiber Towel) or can you put on a microfiber bonnet on the polisher to do this? Thanks for any info...

joshs09slvrZ 10-22-2011 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelican170 (Post 1370410)
Hey Guys,

Good info on there. I am in the process of looking to be more involved in my car care paint finish and have been reading about what is best. It seems the Porter Cable mentioned is best for beginners, and there is tons of info on polishes and waxes it seems. My main questions come from exactly what pad to use for a Polish and for Waxing/Sealants. Also, has anyone used the Mothers 3 step program ive read about? Basically just a prewax cleaner, glaze and wax..
Also, when you are going to buff off the residue from polishes/waxes, do you have to do this by hand (Microfiber Towel) or can you put on a microfiber bonnet on the polisher to do this? Thanks for any info...

There is no specific pad/polish combination because many pads can be used with many different polishes. For example, M105 can be used with a wool pad for heavy correcting or a light compounding pad for work that doesn't need wool. As far as applying liquid waxes or sealants, some people will use a finishing pad, but it's best to remove it by hand with a plush MF towel, not a machine.

B&W_Evader 10-24-2011 10:33 AM

So how'd you like that #9? Don't know about that filler comment but I know when I use it on a white 91 camery that hasn't been taken care of... I get a white residue on the blue towl I'm using.

In my opinion as far as polishers go... Don't use them. I have a milwakee heavy duty polisher. I've used my dad's rinky dink polisher too. I hate both. The milwakee will burn thru the paint on corners in an instant. The little rinky dink POS won't even take dried wax off. I'm done with them. When I'm too old to do it myself... I'll pawn it off on my kids LOL!


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