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FricFrac 05-28-2011 02:54 PM

NXTAZEE the G35 was amazing. We had about 8 or 10 cycles of torrential downpour and dry. The car would literally dry itself withing a couple of minutes - not a drop anywhere and super glossy. The only place we had dirt was all over the back since there is a spoiler there. I'm confident that it will blast right off. It beads like crazy as we saw with the 370Z that was waxed last week was more sheeting than the OC. The 300ZX looks amazing and I'm looking forward to getting the OC on the 370Z. It's hard to imagine not having to wax the car.....

Forrest 05-28-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE (Post 1138168)
There is no reason to top it. Nothing will stick to it for any length of time anyway. It looks great, beads like crazy and releases contaminates. What else could we want.

Only reason why I think of it is because I like to add extra layers of Liquid glass to the front of the car to resist the bug guts. I just keep wondering how long will a layer of OC stand up to the guts.

NXTAZEE 05-28-2011 04:41 PM

OC will release bug guts better than anything you could put on top of it. OC will, and has, lasted for years. Some early trial cars are more than 3 years with OC on them and the OC is just as good as when it was first applied.


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Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 1138619)
Only reason why I think of it is because I like to add extra layers of Liquid glass to the front of the car to resist the bug guts. I just keep wondering how long will a layer of OC stand up to the guts.


NXTAZEE 05-28-2011 04:44 PM

I'm glad everyone is happy with it. I just love the stuff. Oh, your 370 is washed and clayed and ready for polishing. The blue should look awesome with OC.



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Originally Posted by FricFrac (Post 1138590)
NXTAZEE the G35 was amazing. We had about 8 or 10 cycles of torrential downpour and dry. The car would literally dry itself withing a couple of minutes - not a drop anywhere and super glossy. The only place we had dirt was all over the back since there is a spoiler there. I'm confident that it will blast right off. It beads like crazy as we saw with the 370Z that was waxed last week was more sheeting than the OC. The 300ZX looks amazing and I'm looking forward to getting the OC on the 370Z. It's hard to imagine not having to wax the car.....


kree 05-28-2011 08:53 PM

I always end up streaking the opti-seal. I try not to use too much, but I guess I always do. That's one reason I wasn't sure about opti-coat2. But, I have always used a foam applicator and you are saying it is easier with a microfiber applicator to get it even. Maybe I'll try a microfiber applicator next time I apply opti-seal to see if I can get the hang of it.

Forrest 05-29-2011 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kree (Post 1139046)
I always end up streaking the opti-seal. I try not to use too much, but I guess I always do. That's one reason I wasn't sure about opti-coat2. But, I have always used a foam applicator and you are saying it is easier with a microfiber applicator to get it even. Maybe I'll try a microfiber applicator next time I apply opti-seal to see if I can get the hang of it.

I streak opti seal because I am lazy. With opti coat you have a time limit. You just stay on that section and make sure its good before you move on. In that manner I bet you wouldn't have a problem

kree 05-29-2011 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 1139524)
I streak opti seal because I am lazy. With opti coat you have a time limit. You just stay on that section and make sure its good before you move on. In that manner I bet you wouldn't have a problem

Yeah, I guess its the same for me. However, it is hard to see opti-seal on silver when applying it and I usually notice where I streaked it later. Maybe I'd have to buy some halogen lights or something if I do this next spring.

NXTAZEE 05-29-2011 01:03 PM

You should not attempt this with out proper lighting. Reflected light off a wall is also great for seeing high spots. I need to make up something like a photographer uses to reflect light, that would be ideal.


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Originally Posted by kree (Post 1139845)
Yeah, I guess its the same for me. However, it is hard to see opti-seal on silver when applying it and I usually notice where I streaked it later. Maybe I'd have to buy some halogen lights or something if I do this next spring.


Forrest 05-29-2011 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE (Post 1139998)
You should not attempt this with out proper lighting. Reflected light off a wall is also great for seeing high spots. I need to make up something like a photographer uses to reflect light, that would be ideal.

Only thing that is stopping me is proper lights. I read that the harsher the light, the more you will see defects.

I am kind of thinking of this product Amazon.com: Coleman Cable 07776 Two-Light 1000-Watt Quartz Halogen Light with Tripod: Home Improvement but my garage would still have poor lighting with that. I would only be able to focus one panel at a time.

NXTAZEE 05-29-2011 06:22 PM

That is the purpose of proper lighting, to show the defects. It's pretty hard to polish out defects if you can't see them. I use three types of light to find defects and to make sure they are gone. I sure hope you don't plan on putting OC over a car with defects in the paint. :eek:



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Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 1140285)
Only thing that is stopping me is proper lights. I read that the harsher the light, the more you will see defects.

I am kind of thinking of this product Amazon.com: Coleman Cable 07776 Two-Light 1000-Watt Quartz Halogen Light with Tripod: Home Improvement but my garage would still have poor lighting with that. I would only be able to focus one panel at a time.


Forrest 05-30-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE (Post 1140403)
That is the purpose of proper lighting, to show the defects. It's pretty hard to polish out defects if you can't see them. I use three types of light to find defects and to make sure they are gone. I sure hope you don't plan on putting OC over a car with defects in the paint. :eek:

My plan was to polish a section then OC it. I don't want to do the entire car at once due to I just want to take my time and make sure each section is done right.
Last time I polished I felt I did a really good job. In the brutal sun I couldn't see any imperfections. But the entire time when I was in the garage I just keep wishing I had more lighting.

murphman 05-30-2011 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 1141884)
My plan was to polish a section then OC it. I don't want to do the entire car at once due to I just want to take my time and make sure each section is done right.
Last time I polished I felt I did a really good job. In the brutal sun I couldn't see any imperfections. But the entire time when I was in the garage I just keep wishing I had more lighting.

i purchased a bunch of lighting from Home Depot that take a few minutes to hang in the garage and the are good to go, lots of light now when i detail in there. I believe the light housing was $20 2 lights to each housing and it was like $5 for a pair of lights so $75 - $100 get you 3-4 lights with housing. You should check it out, they are not the best quality housing but do their job.

Forrest 05-30-2011 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by murphman (Post 1141907)
i purchased a bunch of lighting from Home Depot that take a few minutes to hang in the garage and the are good to go, lots of light now when i detail in there. I believe the light housing was $20 2 lights to each housing and it was like $5 for a pair of lights so $75 - $100 get you 3-4 lights with housing. You should check it out, they are not the best quality housing but do their job.

Thanks I didn't even think about that. I will go check it out.

Junkman2008 05-31-2011 08:49 AM

I can see every imperfection in paint given enough of any type of light. Be it sun or halogens, I have never had any trouble seeing paint damage.

Forrest 05-31-2011 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 1142788)
I can see every imperfection in paint given enough of any type of light. Be it sun or halogens, I have never had any trouble seeing paint damage.

Your a pro and I am just a chump still haha. Actually I went to home depot like murphman said and there was a lot of lighting solutions that were affordable. I suspect this time around I will be better off.

Junkman2008 06-01-2011 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 1144179)
Your a pro and I am just a chump still haha. Actually I went to home depot like murphman said and there was a lot of lighting solutions that were affordable. I suspect this time around I will be better off.

Keep in mind that if you are working in a air conditioned environment, light choice is not as important. But if you are working in a garage that is hot and humid in the summertime, the more light you get adds to the heat in the garage. You could literally tan yourself.

FricFrac 06-01-2011 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 1142788)
I can see every imperfection in paint given enough of any type of light. Be it sun or halogens, I have never had any trouble seeing paint damage.

Impresive. So you either have the ability to change the light source wavelength to one that the flaw will defract or reflect the light or change the flaw so that it defracts or reflects the wavelength of light you have available..... Sorry but that's just defying physics...

I think what you meant to say is you have excellent eye sight and with a broad spectrum light source you can easily detect flaws in paint and clearcoat.

Broad band gives you the majority of wavelengths to reflect or refract. Narrow band will help eliminate reflections and refractions of items of no interest (eg non-flaws) and help highlight flaws. That's why multiple various light sources are helpful.

kellyefields 06-01-2011 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac (Post 1145195)
Impresive. So you either have the ability to change the light source wavelength to one that the flaw will defract or reflect the light or change the flaw so that it defracts or reflects the wavelength of light you have available..... Sorry but that's just defying physics...

I think what you meant to say is you have excellent eye sight and with a broad spectrum light source you can easily detect flaws in paint and clearcoat.

Broad band gives you the majority of wavelengths to reflect or refract. Narrow band will help eliminate reflections and refractions of items of no interest (eg non-flaws) and help highlight flaws. That's why multiple various light sources are helpful.

This isnt Bill Nye "The Science Guy" is it? :stirthepot:

Junkman2008 06-01-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac (Post 1145195)
Impresive. So you either have the ability to change the light source wavelength to one that the flaw will defract or reflect the light or change the flaw so that it defracts or reflects the wavelength of light you have available..... Sorry but that's just defying physics...

I think what you meant to say is you have excellent eye sight and with a broad spectrum light source you can easily detect flaws in paint and clearcoat.

Broad band gives you the majority of wavelengths to reflect or refract. Narrow band will help eliminate reflections and refractions of items of no interest (eg non-flaws) and help highlight flaws. That's why multiple various light sources are helpful.

I cannot even begin to explain how I can do it, I just know that when I fix my paint, you won't find a scratch in no matter what light source you use. If I needed a different light source for different scratches, then my paint wouldn't look flawless no matter where it was looked at. At night under the bright supermarket parking lamps, under the blazing hot sun, in my garage under the natural incandescent bulb lighting or halogen lighting, I can see every scratch. Add to that the power of my camera flash and when I claim it's flawless, you can take that to the bank. :tup:

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Originally Posted by kellyefields (Post 1145277)
This isnt Bill Nye "The Science Guy" is it? :stirthepot:

:rofl2:

haven't heard about him in a while!

Armonster 06-01-2011 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 1145669)
I cannot even begin to explain how I can do it, I just know that when I fix my paint, you won't find a scratch in no matter what light source you use. If I needed a different light source for different scratches, then my paint wouldn't look flawless no matter where it was looked at. At night under the bright supermarket parking lamps, under the blazing hot sun, in my garage under the natural incandescent bulb lighting or halogen lighting, I can see every scratch. Add to that the power of my camera flash and when I claim it's flawless, you can take that to the bank. :tup:



:rofl2:

haven't heard about him in a while!

Now that we have established the sufficiency of Junkman's detailing e-peen, let's get back on topic. Anyone have a report/opinions on their opti-coat?

FricFrac 06-01-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kellyefields (Post 1145277)
This isnt Bill Nye "The Science Guy" is it? :stirthepot:

Lol - just need a little of the "how it works" to dispel the myths ;)

murphman 06-01-2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Armonster (Post 1145749)
Now that we have established the sufficiency of Junkman's detailing e-peen, let's get back on topic. Anyone have a report/opinions on their opti-coat?

lol e-peen, been a while since i heard that one.

Junkman2008 06-01-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Armonster (Post 1145749)
Now that we have established the sufficiency of Junkman's detailing e-peen, let's get back on topic. Anyone have a report/opinions on their opti-coat?

You know what they say... if you don't have haters, you must not be doing it right. :icon23:

xohmx 07-06-2011 10:28 AM

Just had the product installed over the weekend by a professional in my area. I dropped it off on Saturday and got it back last night(didn't work on it on the 4th). Once he sends me the pic's I will post them.

He had to correct a few minor defects from where the dealer tried to do something to the car. But he said overall the condition of the paint was pretty good and didn't have to do a ton of work.

Overall I am very impressed with the way it currently looks. From what I have read it gets better as it cures so we will see. Happy to have my car back and love the way it looks.

If no one has any objections I can keep posting updates every few months or so.

KravMaga 07-06-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by xohmx (Post 1205730)
If no one has any objections I can keep posting updates every few months or so.

Please do!!!! Thanks!!!!

xohmx 07-07-2011 09:11 AM

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As promised some pic's!

xohmx 07-07-2011 09:11 AM

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and finally..

Diesel370 07-07-2011 10:08 AM

Looks great but nothing a good polish and wax can accomplish.

Roadster4Us 07-07-2011 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel370 (Post 1207069)
Looks great but nothing a good polish and wax can accomplish.

Keep in mind this is a very long lasting sealant, something a good wax can't accomplish. Plus, with the known softness of the Z's clearcoat, this looks like it might be a good solution to that issue.

Greg

xohmx 07-07-2011 12:35 PM

Not to mention the product was applied to the windows, plastic parts, and the parts in the engine bay. The plastic piece between the door windows and the back window was not protected very well. What ever the dealer tried to do when preparing it for my delivery put swirl marks in it. Once that was fixed he put the coating on those parts as well.

Diesel370 07-07-2011 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadster4Us (Post 1207074)
Keep in mind this is a very long lasting sealant, something a good wax can't accomplish. Plus, with the known softness of the Z's clearcoat, this looks like it might be a good solution to that issue.

Greg

Not exactly cheap. $60 for 20cc's

Roadster4Us 07-07-2011 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel370 (Post 1207997)
Not exactly cheap. $60 for 20cc's

Who said it was cheap? Clear-bras aren't cheap either but I think they are good value for the protection you get. :tiphat:

Greg

KravMaga 07-07-2011 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel370 (Post 1207997)
Not exactly cheap. $60 for 20cc's

Will this be enough to do the whole car?

Junkman2008 07-08-2011 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Roadster4Us (Post 1207074)
... with the known softness of the Z's clearcoat...

You can say that again! :rolleyes:

Diesel370 07-09-2011 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KravMaga (Post 1208140)
Will this be enough to do the whole car?

It should be enough for several cars. I wouldn't be applying this stuff though unless you have polished all the scratches and imperfections out of your car. This stuff is permanent and once you put it on it will be difficult to remove. Like was said in another post, If you seal in a paint flaw with a coating you are going to be working double time to remove it or waiting a very long time until that coating is worn away. Don't know which would be agonizing, waiting for the coating to wear away(which I don't think would happen for years) or carefully compounding the coating and paint defect/flaw away then trying to re-coat the spot

Diesel370 07-09-2011 12:53 PM

Here is an extensive review the Opi coat that I found on auto geek.

Review and Extreme Testing: Opti-Coat 2.0 and CQuartz - Auto Geek Online Auto Detailing Forum

DetailersDomain 07-10-2011 07:22 AM

hey all sorry I'm late to this, but this is the real deal.

it does work, we have been using the pro version and 2.0 version of this since last year.

we have coated many customers vehicles as well as our own.

we have found this coating to work extremely well on wheels.

if you guys are interested maybe I should do a group buy on this.

Opti Coat V2

Methodical4u 07-10-2011 03:30 PM

Phil, i'm curious about the Aquartz Titanium vs the Opti-coat... the Aquartz vids all show it to be quite a hard finish. How long does it last and does it stay slick the whole time that it does last?

ZeeingAround 07-10-2011 08:10 PM

I might give this a try Phil. I am not at all impressed with the power lock sealent i just got from you.

Methodical4u 07-10-2011 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeeingAround (Post 1211529)
I might give this a try Phil. I am not at all impressed with the power lock sealent i just got from you.

That's interesting... i've heard a lot of good things about Powerlock.. i've not tried it myself however so I can't comment there.

I also am interested in possibly using the Opti-coat. I've read mixed reviews about it though... not many bad ones.. just some people that have had some issues with it.

I've also just read a thread in which a detailer that was using aquartz and was having issues with oily residue and streaking which I don't like to read about a product obviously.


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