Originally Posted by moore.speed (Post 3277117)

I have heard good things from a friend of mine with a wrap shop that is certified with Xpel now. I would recommend this, no doubt, once the paint has cured long enough and it is safe to apply the film.



After you do that, find a skilled, experienced detailer that can apply a CQuartz coating to the car. It will not be as cheap as a normal wax but the return on the investment is so worth it.



I have it on my Z, applied by Jason's Pro Detail in Northwest Arkansas, and I love it. Cleaning the car is a breeze now, the car stays clean longer, the repellency is incredible, and I have not hand dried the car once since it has been completed. (Bye-bye swirl marks.)



That fresh paint deserves to be protected and look pristine for years to come, now that you've done it! :tup:

Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3277132)

What's that?


-Raj

Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3277143)

Wow that's amazing! Did you have your whole car done? Did it cost a lot?


-Raj

Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3276435)

... It's going to be clay barred and waxed and polished professionally after painted...

-Raj

Originally Posted by moore.speed (Post 3277157)

... I won't be paying anyone to wax and buff my car nearly as often so instead of paying 200-300 bucks here and there, pay a higher fee and be done with it one time.

Originally Posted by tonybell_57 (Post 3277240)

You're going to wait 30 days to let the paint cure before you clay it, wax it and have the clear bra installed right? Otherwise, the clear bra may bubble from out-gassing while the paint cures.

Originally Posted by tonybell_57 (Post 3277240)

You're going to wait 30 days to let the paint cure before you clay it, wax it and have the clear bra installed right? Otherwise, the clear bra may bubble from out-gassing while the paint cures.

Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 3277275)

I have a question. WHY? :confused:







I have a second series of questions. Why did you have to have your car buffed and waxed "often?" What are you doing to your paint that would warrant it needing so much buffing? Add to that, what makes you think that if you continue to do whatever is causing it to need that much buffing, that it still won't need that much buffing no matter what kind off protection you have applied? :confused:







Correction. He's going to wait until the person who has painted his car informs him of the curing time. When I paint my car, I use a combination of products that cure within a week. There are all kinds of combination that will yield different curing times. Only the painter knows how much time is required. That's why only the painter should tell you the curing time.



I just did my front fascia again to get rid of the rock chips. Curing time? 5 days.



http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...ts/wreck27.jpg

Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3277460)

I was told by a "body shop expert" that that needs to be done.

Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3277460)

I'm not sure they said its procedure. I always thought the paint is not supposed to even be washed or waxed for a period of time, but the painter says otherwise.

Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3277460)

I have always been told to buff the paint every 3 months or so.

Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3277460)

I figured that if the paint was perfect and I put a clear bra or xpel over it then it would be protected but i am worried about clear bra hazing and damaging the paint more than helping.

Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3277460)

I spoke to the painter and he said curing time is in between 1-2 weeks. He said it can sit in a garage all that time and does not need to be in the sun.

-Raj

Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3277454)

The guy painting it told me one week... I will definitely wait longer


-Raj

Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 3277275)

I have a second series of questions. Why did you have to have your car buffed and waxed "often?" What are you doing to your paint that would warrant it needing so much buffing? Add to that, what makes you think that if you continue to do whatever is causing it to need that much buffing, that it still won't need that much buffing no matter what kind off protection you have applied? :confused:

Originally Posted by moore.speed (Post 3277659)

I have never had my car buffed more than once. I'm speaking broadly, for some people who do not know the proper techniques of protecting their paint. Some people would need professional paint correction much more frequently than some.

I was simply saying, if a good coating is added to the paint, when the paint has cured, the need for any sort of maintenance on the paint would be much less.

I have, however, enjoyed waxing my car "often" in the past as it yields good results and adds good repellency to the surface. That, too, is not needed with the CQuartz coating that has been applied to my Z.

So, my intentions above were to say the investment of a good coating is worth it in the long run, as the need for any sort of maintenance on the paint is much slimmer.

Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 3277765)

And there is where I strongly disagree.

If a person doesn't know how to care for their paint, all the coatings on earth are NOT going to solve their paint issues. This is the myth surrounding coatings. As if these coatings are some sort of secret weapon to bad paint maintenance practices. They are NOT. You still have to properly care for your paint or in time, it will look like crap.

Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 3277572)

Here's the deal. Any buffing or polishing is supposed to be done by the shop that is painting the car. That is not YOUR job! That's part of the price that YOU paid THEM! When the car leaves the shop, the ONLY thing that you should have to do is wash the car until the paint cures. After the paint cures, you can apply whatever protection that you want to use. You should NOT have to do ANYTHING else. I would seriously advise you to sit down with the person who painted the car (NOT the body shop manager, the person who DID THE WORK), and get a thorough understanding of what he advises you as to what needs to be done. Of all things, CLAYING a brand new paint job that wasn't shipped to you by rail is completely ludicrous unless the car was painted outdoors during a dirt storm. From the pictures that you posted, that doesn't seem to be the case.



That's why you need to take a pen and paper with you and get some CLARITY. I have never heard of a painter telling a customer that the customer needs to buff his fresh paint job.



Now tell me why you would need to buff the paint every 3 months or so? Do you know WHY you even buff paint? What is your reasoning as to WHY that would be a good idea?



And how would a clear bra damage the paint? As for hazing, if you use some cheap, Chinese brand knock-off product, you should expect that kind of result. All of these clear bra products on the market are NOT the same. There is plenty of eBay and Amazon sold crap out there. For the most part, you get what you pay for.



I would follow his advice if I were you. ;)

Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3278054)

The painter said that they're going to wash the car and dry it and wax it right before they give it back.

I have always been told to buff the paint every three months or so because the swirl marks will start to build up and the paint will start to lose its protection from wax and protectants.

I was thinking about doing xpel since I've heard good things. I just don't want my paint peel off if I decide to take the film off.


-Raj

Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3278054)

... I have always been told to buff the paint every three months or so because the swirl marks will start to build up and the paint will start to lose its protection from wax and protectants.

-Raj

Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3278256)

How often do you recommend polishing?


-Raj

Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 3278604)

You're welcome and make sure that you check out those videos. You will benefit greatly from them. :tup:

Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 3277275)

I have a question. WHY? :confused:







I have a second series of questions. Why did you have to have your car buffed and waxed "often?" What are you doing to your paint that would warrant it needing so much buffing? Add to that, what makes you think that if you continue to do whatever is causing it to need that much buffing, that it still won't need that much buffing no matter what kind off protection you have applied? :confused:







Correction. He's going to wait until the person who has painted his car informs him of the curing time. When I paint my car, I use a combination of products that cure within a week. There are all kinds of combination that will yield different curing times. Only the painter knows how much time is required. That's why only the painter should tell you the curing time.



I just did my front fascia again to get rid of the rock chips. Curing time? 5 days.



http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...ts/wreck27.jpg

Originally Posted by tonybell_57 (Post 3280482)

Ok. I've had several cars painted by several different body shops and they've all told me 30 days. But it's your car.

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3280483)

I think that is on the long side of the typical curing time range. I wouldn't be surprised if they were just telling you that just to be safe and protect themselves. Also, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that it was the service rep telling you 30 days and not the actual guy that did the painting. As Junkman mentioned, different combinations of different products can have different curing times.