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Junkman2008 08-06-2015 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3278054)
... I have always been told to buff the paint every three months or so because the swirl marks will start to build up and the paint will start to lose its protection from wax and protectants.

-Raj

And THAT my friend is why you need to watch these videos. The ONLY reason swirl marks will begin to appear is because YOU are doing something completely wrong to your paint.

Let me give you this little tidbit to consider. The swirl marks are in your clear coat. In order to remove them, you have to polish the clear coat, which REMOVES a measurable amount of clear coat in the process. How much clear is actually removed depends on the type of polisher and products used. With that said, do you think that the amount of clear coat on your car is infinite? Do you think that it grows back like hair? If not, guess what constantly polishing your paint will eventually do? :icon14:

Ahhh yesss..... I see your light bulb coming on. :)

Dragon_Ball_Z 08-06-2015 02:44 PM

How often do you recommend polishing?


-Raj

Junkman2008 08-06-2015 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3278256)
How often do you recommend polishing?


-Raj

ONLY IF NECESSARY!

If you are properly caring for your paint (and I will use myself as a bar mark), you will only need to polish SMALL AREAS of your paint if some damage mysteriously appears (extremely large people squeezing past your car, women and purses, stupid idiot at the tire shop wiping his fingerprints off your paint with a shop rag from hell, etc...). Other than that, it's wash it when it gets dirty and wax it whenever necessary. If you have to constantly polish your ENTIRE car, YOU are your own worse enemy.

You can compare it to anything but I love comparing it to weight loss. How often should you have to go on a diet? If you eat right and exercise, NEVER! That's the mentality that I have when it comes to caring for my paint. If you never create damage, idealistically, you should never have to fix your paint It really is that simple.

Dragon_Ball_Z 08-06-2015 11:49 PM

Thank you junk man for your advice! Really appreciate you taking your time out to help me on this matter!


-Raj

Junkman2008 08-07-2015 12:16 AM

You're welcome and make sure that you check out those videos. You will benefit greatly from them. :tup:

Dragon_Ball_Z 08-07-2015 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 3278604)
You're welcome and make sure that you check out those videos. You will benefit greatly from them. :tup:


Will do! Sent you a pm too!


-Raj

tonybell_57 08-09-2015 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 3277275)
I have a question. WHY? :confused:







I have a second series of questions. Why did you have to have your car buffed and waxed "often?" What are you doing to your paint that would warrant it needing so much buffing? Add to that, what makes you think that if you continue to do whatever is causing it to need that much buffing, that it still won't need that much buffing no matter what kind off protection you have applied? :confused:







Correction. He's going to wait until the person who has painted his car informs him of the curing time. When I paint my car, I use a combination of products that cure within a week. There are all kinds of combination that will yield different curing times. Only the painter knows how much time is required. That's why only the painter should tell you the curing time.



I just did my front fascia again to get rid of the rock chips. Curing time? 5 days.



http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...ts/wreck27.jpg


Ok. I've had several cars painted by several different body shops and they've all told me 30 days. But it's your car.

JARblue 08-09-2015 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tonybell_57 (Post 3280482)
Ok. I've had several cars painted by several different body shops and they've all told me 30 days. But it's your car.

I think that is on the long side of the typical curing time range. I wouldn't be surprised if they were just telling you that just to be safe and protect themselves. Also, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that it was the service rep telling you 30 days and not the actual guy that did the painting. As Junkman mentioned, different combinations of different products can have different curing times.

Junkman2008 08-09-2015 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3280483)
I think that is on the long side of the typical curing time range. I wouldn't be surprised if they were just telling you that just to be safe and protect themselves. Also, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that it was the service rep telling you 30 days and not the actual guy that did the painting. As Junkman mentioned, different combinations of different products can have different curing times.

Bingo. :tiphat:

Sometimes the managers don't know their bunghole from a crescent wrench. They got their position because they are a member of the owner's family and haven't painted one car a day in their life. They pretty much go on hearsay (what they hear the painters talking about), and don't get the whole story. As you can see, I have painted cars before, including my own (the thread about WHY I had to repaint it is located here). My father did body work for 40 years so I've been exposed to this every since I was old enough to have a memory.

Dragon_Ball_Z 08-09-2015 12:53 PM

Need serious advice from guys that know paint protection
 
It was the actual painter (friend of mine) that told me it would be fine after 1 week. Junkman your videos are awesome. I'm still watching them over and over taking notes every time. :tiphat:


-Raj

Junkman2008 08-09-2015 01:20 PM

Those videos are like a college course in paint correction. The more you repeatedly watch them, the more successful you will be when you actually start doing the work. ;)

Dragon_Ball_Z 08-09-2015 01:20 PM

Thanks :)


-Raj


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