Anyone Interested in "uprev" in Alberta?
 

There is a guy on 780 t00ners that has been talking to Cam at Lightspeed Innovations about getting "uprev" so Nissan/Infiniti guys have another tuning solution in Alberta. I thought I would pass on the info in case anyone is interested as I have heard a few guys talk about it. Here is the guys post below and the link to the thread if it works, I guess he wants a $500 deposit from 8 people to show commitment. I have not talked to Cam about this myself so I am not sure what a tune will cost or any of the details. I do know why he wants the deposit up front though, the Genisis guys all begged him to get Power Axle (a tuning system) then he spent a ton of money getting it and only 1-2 guys followed through and got tunes :icon43:.

If you have questions or need more info from Cam his email is cam@lightspeedinnovations.com





Calling all nissan / infiniti's, that need a tune. - 780Tuners Edmonton Car Forums




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how's your car running?

Really? Cam hasn't gotten Uprev yet? When I spoke to him in July, he said he was going to get it since Cobb was not supporting us anymore. At that time he told me I could book for September 2010 as that was the earliest availability and he would be all set up with Uprev. That's disappointing. I understand his position, but I'm not going to put a $500 deposit months in advance not knowing when he'll be set up to go. Plus that also means he hasn't tuned a lot of 370Z's. I would prefer to go to someone who's already set up and have done like a dozen Z's before. So far I know he's done your 370Z and another member's through Cobb.

I know he has been talking about it for awhile but lack of commitment has been holding him back last time I talked to him about it he said everyone says they want a tune but as he found out with the Genesis guys no one follows through. I think he has tuned about 5-6 370Zs with COBB, he tunes full standalones on all kinds of different cars all day everyday you won't find a tuner with more experience in Alberta, he has been tuning for over 15 years and he has tuned several forced induction G35s and 350Zs as well as turbo Sentras and the list of Nissans goes on. Good luck finding someone around here that has tuned 12 370s as no one else even seems interested in getting the software. I run a standalone so this won't benefit me much but I could use the uprev to turn off the slip, VDC and SES lights on my dash.

Well that is a loaded question, A had some "issues" with my 3.8L so last year I ran the stock engine and considered selling the car but in ran great all year and now I am rebuilding the 3.8L myself as we speak.

A few of us (2-4) in Edmonton have talked about possibly talking to Cam about a group deal, but I guess we'll see.

$500 deposit on something that's not a sure thing...? Not me!

I only talked to Cam once and he did not instill me with butts loads of confidence in his work or knowledge. So i now stay clear of lightspeed.

As much as I think Cam should have the UpRev program as part of his inventory to offer to new/present clients to grow his business, I can see how he would like a commitment from a few members to justify the purchase. The dealer program is expensive.

Now having a group buy to actually purchase the programs, cable, and have the car tuned by Cam, would be more interesting than just a tune/dyno with the UpRev program. Even the Cipher monitor program and cable group buy with a tune from Cam would get my attention a lot more, than just a tune.

It would be a sure thing when 8 people commit they then pay the $500 and he gets uprev and you book your time for a tune. You don't get 8 people you dont pay anything and you are in GTA so why even post here???


You could talk to him about it he might offer that as well, like I said i havent talked to him about it at all I just came across the thread i linked so I though there might be some interest??

I guess he needs 5 more people.

The guy that is arranging it said the cost is $750 for uprev with a custom dyno tune on NA cars and slightly more if you are FI.

There is a lot of discussion about this in the ZEdmonton lounge in the social groups

Whats all included in that $750? Just 1 dyno tune and its loaded onto your car? If thats the case, thats bs. My SCT Tuner came with 3 tunes that i can load onto my truck and it cost $500 and once i dyno each map i can send them back to him to get readjusted for free. To get the device and do dyno tuning at the shop is $600 but thats in Miami.

So $750 per person for a dyno tune (once again assuming you only get 1 map) that is way to high and i wouldnt pay that if i still owned the Z.

No, you do a baseline dyno run, then likely 2 or 3 more (or more if needed) dyno runs to adjust and tweak till optimized.

i understand that, i did 30+ dyno runs in one night with my cobalt to get the tune right. But what im asking is, is that all for 1 tune? Or does that include multiple tunes? I have 3 tunes (fuel economy, 91 octane performance and Nitrous with 94 octane) of which i can get dynoed then send the results (hp/trq graph, afr, egt or knock retard if any) And they will be adjusted if need be. So the $500 for me my 3 tunes, the sct device that also doubles as a code reader and then i pay $75 for my dyno runs at whatever shop i go to and then send the results in to get adjusted for free.

But if you guys are paying $750 for 1 tune and the dyno runs to get the tune perfect and then thats it. Personally i think theys way to much. Not to mention thats on a N/A set up, so the most someone would have is intakes, header, midpipes and exhaust...maybe a few other things, but nothing major that would require alot of time to dial in.

As far as know that is for 1 tune, you would have to email Cam to confirm anything. I have seen US tuning shops selling the license for $600 with no tune so $750 with a dyno tune sounds fair.

Ok I went in the lounge and had a read! The idea about flying the tuner out from Z Tune.....Z Tune is long gone they folded quite awhile ago. I did some research to buy a up rev licence (this is according to an Edmonton member that bought his own) is $580 to his door Direct from uprev I have seen other shops sell for $600 + shipping duty ect, that gives you $150 to get your car on a dyno and tuned. If you look into flying a tuner in it is typically $1000/ tune with you supplying the tuning device uprev/ COBB whet ever device you supply yourself. This is as cheap as you will get with a dyno tune. I have yet to talk to Cam about any of this but I plan to next week as I have to order some parts from him. I will try to find out why he wants money up front I under stand the genesis deal went south leaving him with $5,000 with of software that he did 2 tunes with, so maybe uprev charges shops to a software fee? I don't know but I don't get it either.

If anyone is wondering Lloyd explained his relationship with Cam in the lounge, I will explain mine. I am long time customer of his that over the years became friends with him, I am not however here to drum up business for him he is usually booked months in advance for tuning so me pushing a couple tunes for him likely wouldn't make or break him he appreciates all of his customers he just docent need me to find them for him, I am here because I would like to see someone local with uprev so I can turn off some lights on my dash and have a tuning option for my next car. I also support him because he supports us at last years G/Z meet he put on a free BBQ at his shop for us! He never once pushed anything on us or even brought up the fact he owned a shop unlike other shop BBQs that felt like a constant sales push.

Thanks for that explanation!

I too would love to have a UpRev dealer/tuner in the local area but make no mistake about it, it's a large chunk of change to the average enthusiast. That being said, Cam is a excellent tuner and provides a good value for the monies.

I'm thinking if people have questions about Cam's offer, that perhaps they should be talking to him and that would let him know that there is interest for a UpRev product locally and help him make a good business decision.

Next time your in town, come on over to the Zuma garage and see what I've been up to. I'll just make sure to keep you out of my basement. Or bring your check book :p

Tell Cam that he and I will talk after I get confirmed delivery date from GTM. I'm hoping that delivery should be sometime in May.

Ya we can speculate about things here for weeks, I guess if you have questions sending him an email would be the best.

I did get a chance to talk with Cam today, up rev charges a large dealer fee I think it is about $6,000 or plus he has to pay them for every tune he dose so it is not a cheap endevour to get started. after the Genisis guys hung him out to dry by having him get the software and promising they were all coming in for tunes then they never followed through he now wants commitment from 6 Guys before getting the dealer software.

Any further questions drop him a line.


Cam@lightspeedinnovations.com




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Here is the scoop guys. I have been burned by people with good intentions so many times. After having been in business since 1994 I bought our first dyno in 2000. Before purchasing my first dyno I had all these people promise to come and see us and spin their car up for numbers. Quite honestly this was my business inexperience and I banked on it and had less than 10% of these people show up and it put us into quite a tail spin. We made it work and the reputation of Lightspeed started to grow. A few years back I bought the only AWD dyno in Alberta at that time but this time I budgeted on not selling even one hour of dyno time but looked at what it would do for our own R&D program. However many people promised and well very few of those promises came to pass. Last year the Genesis crowd wanted to tune their cars so we stepped out and bought software and to date I have not used it. So you can see my apprehension of investing in another tuning program or anything for that matter for us. We also upon request bought the Cobb software for this crowd and well it didn't get paid for either.
The problem is expectations the scene wants a good tuner a good facility and well cheap. I am not going to lie to anyone and say we have tuned 100 Nissans cause we have not. I will say this it is much easier to tweak a factory computer to work properly than a standalone and we have set up many standalone cars 450+ cars. I also have over 15000 hours of dyno time and have worked on everything from Exotics to record setting cars. I also fly out and tune several cars a year. I believe Lightspeed is a good fit for the Nissan scene. I would like to work with the local guys. Yes it is a business and we have invested quite heavily we just want the local support. That is why I offerred a tune package for the NA cars of $750.00 which breaks down to a $300.00 license and $450.00 for your tune. Normally we charge $700-$850(depends on time) for a tune such as this plus license fees I am flat rating this as a way to say Lightspeed wants to be involved We have done this deal with several other groups who wanted software and it worked out well for them and us. I am asking for a deposit of $500.00 (do you honestly think we would process it until we had all the interested parties and we could promise delivery ). I am typically booked 2-3 months in advance starting about mid April but on a deal like this I have no problem working everybody in sooner as well as long as we get the process started sooner than later. I want 6 guys to say yes I will do it I have 2 right now. Rest assured if it didn't happen I would not process any payments I am not going to trash 16 years of reputation or a few hundred dollars. It is a large investment for us and well not worth it if only one or two people are interested to do it even at 6 it is still a large investment. My hope is that the 6 will be only too happy to tell of their positive experience. I think our positive Nissan work in the past shows our commitment to our clients.

Cheers Cam

Welcome to the forum Cam. Glad to see that you could make it.

I really do hope that you do decide to purchase the UpRev software for your business and provide suburb tuning for the 370Z's. Unfortunately UpRev seems to be our only option right now but a good option. With the torque management of the 7AT people, VVEL tuning in the near future, and the ECM engine tuning, it beats Cobb, hands down. IMHO

Your in the perfect zone able to service the Calgarians and Edmontians as well as the local Red Deer guys (even though I think Gord scared them all off :p) I can't see why 6 people, in 3 cities, can't step up to promise a dyno tune at your group price. The only thing I can think of is the timing of it all. From what I gathered, most are interested but not ready to commit.

So my question is and I just thought of it. How long is the group buy good for? I'd step up and put a deposit down for a summer tune in July?

Lloyd

ok if you can tune my FX50S with this put my name down. I am willing to give you a shot.



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I don't see your FX50S on the list but the list is a year old too

well someone update the list damn it

I have got 4 solid committed people now and if Uprev says we can do the FX50S we will soon be at 5.

Cheers Cam

Thanks for chiming in and clarifying things, Cam.

We can do the FX50S as well. For some of the newer vehicles or some not listed there may be an extra procedure but we will work with the owners of these vehicles on an individual basis. UpRev has committed to us that they will work with us on Nissans that they don't list now.

Cheers Cam

UpRev is good :tup:

It is done I have contacted all those that have contacted me. If anyone else is interested please contact me.

Cheers Cam

replyed back to you Cam. Looking forward to getting this done.

In for results! I will eventually be going this route too, just not ready yet....

In for results too....

On the fence on this one... sorry.

Its all good we got the number we are looking for results probably will not be into May as most do not bring their car out until then.

Cheers

Cam, are these the same deliverables you are offering?

http://www.the370z.com/north-east-re...ml#post1033808

THAT is a smokin deal...

That's also in the USA.

And the cdn dollar is worth more so it should be cheaper... :stirthepot:

"should":bowrofl::shakes head::bowrofl::bowrofl:

= won't. :shakes head: