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Pylon 02-25-2009 08:26 AM

Official Canadian 370z Invoice Pricing
 
Knowledge is power. More power to the Canadian consumer!

M6 Transmission
Base 370z MSRP: $39998
Base 370z Invoice: $36682

A7 Transmission
Base 370z MSRP: $41498
Base 370z Invoice: $38059

Navigation MSRP: $2500
Navigation Invoice: $2292

Sport Pkg MSRP: $4000
Sport Pkg Invoice: $3667

nogoodname 02-25-2009 08:56 AM

cool, thanks

this is a major great find.

where did you find it??

inTgr8r 02-25-2009 09:38 PM

Thanks Pylon, that's great info!!!!

Schwany 02-26-2009 12:56 PM

if those are true, I wonder how many ppl will be successful in getting anything lower than msrp

FricFrac 02-26-2009 01:32 PM

There isn't a lot of room to move on the price considering what it cost to hire staff, rent/mortgage, etc....

Pylon 02-27-2009 12:07 AM

Yup they're true. I have the official documentation from Nissan.

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Originally Posted by Schwany (Post 35945)
if those are true, I wonder how many ppl will be successful in getting anything lower than msrp


Schwany 02-27-2009 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pylon (Post 36186)
Yup they're true. I have the official documentation from Nissan.

sweet.. thanks for sharing this info man

GTRMagic 01-13-2011 10:44 PM

Here's the price for the 2011 Nissan 370Z Touring
MSRP: $42,878
Invoice: $39,638

I would post the actual car report but I don't know how to. The site I went to was carsaver.ca and their reports are free.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pylon (Post 35352)
Knowledge is power. More power to the Canadian consumer!

M6 Transmission
Base 370z MSRP: $39998
Base 370z Invoice: $36682

A7 Transmission
Base 370z MSRP: $41498
Base 370z Invoice: $38059

Navigation MSRP: $2500
Navigation Invoice: $2292

Sport Pkg MSRP: $4000
Sport Pkg Invoice: $3667


younter 01-14-2011 11:28 AM

what really is the difference for the 2011 and the 2010 model?

FricFrac 01-14-2011 01:51 PM

The 2009 -> 2010 was in cabin air filters and heated side mirrors. Dunno if they added anything for 2011.... 3 grand is a huge jump unless they added turbos I didn't hear about....

djpathfinder 01-14-2011 07:17 PM

2010 --> 2011 added back up cam.

djpathfinder 01-14-2011 07:18 PM

It sucks that the Canadian consumer still pays so much more than the American consumer for the same thing.

370Z_Fan 01-14-2011 08:43 PM

It sucks even more that I had to pay $40 to get invoice pricing. Where the heck was carsaver when I was car shopping back in the spring of 2010?

DuppyKilla 02-09-2011 05:34 PM

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Here's the reports from carsaver. :tup:

younter 02-10-2011 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DuppyKilla (Post 934762)
Here's the reports from carsaver. :tup:

Cool, Thanks for the info..

Amuse370z 02-10-2011 09:27 AM

I'm not sure how I'm supposed to be reading the reports.

Invoice is what you can negotiate to, right? MSRP is what the retailer suggests the pricing should be?

On the report, the sport package seems to be included, can I assume $39,032 is doable without the options?

Can I print it out and use it to negotiate?

Da.Menace 02-10-2011 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Amuse370z (Post 935282)
I'm not sure how I'm supposed to be reading the reports.

Invoice is what you can negotiate to, right? MSRP is what the retailer suggests the pricing should be?

On the report, the sport package seems to be included, can I assume $39,032 is doable without the options?

Can I print it out and use it to negotiate?

Invoice = How much the dealer bought it for, from Nissan.
MSRP = How much the dealer is selling at, without discounts

Don't print it out on how much others bought for, because it is basically useless, and may inflict unknown effects to the dealerships.

Amuse370z 02-11-2011 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Da.Menace (Post 935683)
Invoice = How much the dealer bought it for, from Nissan.
MSRP = How much the dealer is selling at, without discounts

Don't print it out on how much others bought for, because it is basically useless, and may inflict unknown effects to the dealerships.

There is no way I'm gonna be payin MSRP and theres no way they are only going to charge the invoice.

so...what exactly is the use of knowing this? Should I aim for a price inbetween the 2?

djpathfinder 02-11-2011 05:21 PM

Try to aim for somewhere between 3-10% over invoice. No dealer will sell for the same price that they paid for it.

Dizzy 02-11-2011 09:52 PM

It's all about timing. You can buy cars below dealer invoice. I've done it.

You have to consider this. Lets say a dealer buys 10 cars. Lets say for argument sakes, each car is $20,000. Now, over the next month, they sell 9 of those cars for a minimal profit of $1000 each. They've made $9000. So, if the 10th car is sold $1000 below cost, the dealer loses a $1000 and makes an overall profit of $8000. Now, mulitply that by a lot more cars and a lot longer selling period. Early in the year, prices are high and getting deals is harder.

Pretty simplistic but as cars sit in dealer showooms, other profits are applied against the cars invoice price to artificially lower it. All dealers do it and that's how you get below invoice pricing on rare occassions.

End of model year, or in the case of a Z, winter approaching and you can get them at a much better price point. I bought mine in September pretty much at invoice. If I wasn't dead set on white, I could have gotten a yellow one slightly below invoice for the exact reasons stated above.

Da.Menace 02-11-2011 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Amuse370z (Post 937897)
There is no way I'm gonna be payin MSRP and theres no way they are only going to charge the invoice.

so...what exactly is the use of knowing this? Should I aim for a price inbetween the 2?

Of course don't pay MSRP!
Normally, MSRP is = around 108% of Invoice. So they make 8% profit.

As soon as you walk in the door, you may be offered 2-3% off that 8%. A little haggle will bring that down to 3-4%, or more.

PM'ed you details.

IDZRVIT 02-12-2011 07:34 AM

Unless times have changed, the dealer does not buy cars from the manufacturer but sells them on consignment. Dealer 'invoice' is not the true 'net' price of the car. There's a little thing called 'hold back'. Go here and do some reading: new car prices, dealer scams, negotiating, dealer invoice price, Car buying tips

That said, in my neck of the woods, the dealer's attitude is take it or leave it because they are the exclusive Nissan dealer in Halifax and they know that the car will eventually sell for maximum profit. However, I did take Nissan up on their $10K off the 2010 roadster incentive last fall. That was thousands below 'invoice' but I have no way of knowing if that price I paid was above or below the dealer's 'net' price. Mind you I traded my '09 Z touring as part of the deal. Oh, the freight and delivery charges of $1580? We are being gouged. Compare this to our friends south of the border.

jazz 02-16-2011 09:09 AM

do you have the roadster price with the same break down?

1Sweet Z 02-16-2011 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic (Post 894170)
Here's the price for the 2011 Nissan 370Z Touring
MSRP: $42,878
Invoice: $39,638

I would post the actual car report but I don't know how to. The site I went to was carsaver.ca and their reports are free.

We ordered our Nissan in November last year and I went in armed with this information. It really helps to do your homework before you start talking numbers. I got competitive quotes from 2 other dealers and I showed them this page. There sales manager came out with his invoice pricing binder. (Very prepared - i'd imagine they still have profit baked into those numbers)
The sport and Nav invoice prices were identical to the one's listed above, the base A7 invoice amount was slightly different. There total profit the dealership listed was about $3900 over invoice.

We were able to get our car (11 Gun Metallic 370Z Coupe A7 w Sport / Nav) for $1400 over invoice ( if you believe the $3900 dollar amount + freebies.. Illum plates & rust proofing) . We had a very good buying experience from our Nissan Dealer and I would recommend them. ---> Trans Canada Nissan in Peterborough(They ended putting the paint sealer on for free as well.)
:ugh2:

Da.Menace 02-17-2011 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Sweet Z (Post 944854)
We ordered our Nissan in November last year and I went in armed with this information. It really helps to do your homework before you start talking numbers. I got competitive quotes from 2 other dealers and I showed them this page. There sales manager came out with his invoice pricing binder. (Very prepared - i'd imagine they still have profit baked into those numbers)
The sport and Nav invoice prices were identical to the one's listed above, the base A7 invoice amount was slightly different. There total profit the dealership listed was about $3900 over invoice.

We were able to get our car (11 Gun Metallic 370Z Coupe A7 w Sport / Nav) for $1400 over invoice ( if you believe the $3900 dollar amount + freebies.. Illum plates & rust proofing) . We had a very good buying experience from our Nissan Dealer and I would recommend them. ---> Trans Canada Nissan in Peterborough(They ended putting the paint sealer on for free as well.)
:ugh2:

$1400 over invoice is decent, considering the freebies (illum. kick plates = $145 USD, rust proofing = $120, so lets say $300 total) = $1100 over invoice is certainly a good deal, not the best but still very good.

1Sweet Z 02-17-2011 06:52 PM

We thought so as well, considering we were ordering it. They had all the power, but decided to make us a happy consumer. I would buy from again.

aadam_d 03-01-2011 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Sweet Z (Post 944854)
We ordered our Nissan in November last year and I went in armed with this information. It really helps to do your homework before you start talking numbers. I got competitive quotes from 2 other dealers and I showed them this page. There sales manager came out with his invoice pricing binder. (Very prepared - i'd imagine they still have profit baked into those numbers)
The sport and Nav invoice prices were identical to the one's listed above, the base A7 invoice amount was slightly different. There total profit the dealership listed was about $3900 over invoice.

We were able to get our car (11 Gun Metallic 370Z Coupe A7 w Sport / Nav) for $1400 over invoice ( if you believe the $3900 dollar amount + freebies.. Illum plates & rust proofing) . We had a very good buying experience from our Nissan Dealer and I would recommend them. ---> Trans Canada Nissan in Peterborough(They ended putting the paint sealer on for free as well.)
:ugh2:

so was your total around 48500? im from the toronto area and a dealer offered me black on black on road cost for '11 a7 for 47500. and now that financing is down to 2.9% im wondering if i should take it

1Sweet Z 03-01-2011 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aadam_d (Post 963971)
so was your total around 48500? im from the toronto area and a dealer offered me black on black on road cost for '11 a7 for 47500. and now that financing is down to 2.9% im wondering if i should take it

I'd to check the invoice, but it was close to $47,500. The interest rate is better than I was offered. When did they come out with the 2.9% financing?

Da.Menace 03-01-2011 12:43 PM

2.9% thats so low!

aadam_d 03-01-2011 08:42 PM

Yea they just dropped it from 4.9, I was originally going to purchase a genesis coupe but then they dropped interest rates to the same and obviously the 370 is a way better car. I'm planning on going in with 5k down and getting the coupe with auto (don't need sport/nav as I have an iPhone) and my offer was 47500 on road. Think that's a good offer? Any idea on what wait time is?

1Sweet Z 03-02-2011 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aadam_d (Post 965029)
Yea they just dropped it from 4.9, I was originally going to purchase a genesis coupe but then they dropped interest rates to the same and obviously the 370 is a way better car. I'm planning on going in with 5k down and getting the coupe with auto (don't need sport/nav as I have an iPhone) and my offer was 47500 on road. Think that's a good offer? Any idea on what wait time is?

$47,500 on the road ( taxes & Freight PDI incl)
Taxes ~$5465
Freight / PDI ~ $1550 (I think this is what I paid)

List price: $40485.00 for A7 Base

They have only discounted it about $500.00 from MSRP. I think you can get a better deal. I got $2500 off MSRP

Not sure who you are dealing with in Toronto. I got better prices from Economy Wheels Nissan in Lindsay - $1800 off MSRP and Trans Canada Nissan in peterborough ( $ 2500 off plus rust proof & illum k.plates as well) - eventually bought from Trans Canada Nissan.

As far as leadtimes - they probably have 370z's in transit now from Japan. So there should be availability in your colour and style. I ordered mine in late Oct it took to Feb 1 to come in.

Do you know when they came out with the 2.9% interest rate? When I took delivery, my dealer didn't mention any changes in interest rate from 4.9 to 2.9?

Hope this information help.

btw - get the Nav system it is far superior to the smart phones and the back-up cam is a life saver. If you have not test drove on yet, there are some blind spots.

aadam_d 03-02-2011 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Sweet Z (Post 965555)
$47,500 on the road ( taxes & Freight PDI incl)
Taxes ~$5465
Freight / PDI ~ $1550 (I think this is what I paid)

List price: $40485.00 for A7 Base

They have only discounted it about $500.00 from MSRP. I think you can get a better deal. I got $2500 off MSRP

Not sure who you are dealing with in Toronto. I got better prices from Economy Wheels Nissan in Lindsay - $1800 off MSRP and Trans Canada Nissan in peterborough ( $ 2500 off plus rust proof & illum k.plates as well) - eventually bought from Trans Canada Nissan.

As far as leadtimes - they probably have 370z's in transit now from Japan. So there should be availability in your colour and style. I ordered mine in late Oct it took to Feb 1 to come in.

Do you know when they came out with the 2.9% interest rate? When I took delivery, my dealer didn't mention any changes in interest rate from 4.9 to 2.9?

Hope this information help.

btw - get the Nav system it is far superior to the smart phones and the back-up cam is a life saver. If you have not test drove on yet, there are some blind spots.

Hey! yes all this info is REALLY helpful for me. The offer I got was 39500+taxes and that's estimated around 47500 for auto. The financing JUsT dropped march 1st so I'm hoping to get signed this Friday. Don't get me wrong I'd love the navi but the 6000$ difference is not appealing, Im a huge enthusiast and I'm pouring out like half my pay on this car (im 23 and been waiting 7 years to buy my first car; I'm no douche who's parents paid my way. I'm busting my *** for this car) and that 100$ a month could go towards gas! Plus can I really use the backup while I'm driving? I only drive 5km (1 way) to work and for the most part it will be city driving. So every dollar saved on my end is a bonus! Plus I do intend on aftermarket products after the cars paid for. Do you use the navi/backup that much? Do u think it would be a valid expense? Thanks again you guys! Much appreciated

djpathfinder 03-02-2011 09:29 PM

Navi won't add any resale value to your car...not worthwhile in the long run. That package is cool though it is overpriced. You could go with an aftermarket back up camera system and something like a Garmin for nav, if you can't afford the $6000 up front.

My original intention was to buy a Z without nav, but my 40th came fully loaded (in Canada). I have to admit, the iPod integration and other goodies that come with the Nav package are cool little add ons. Pre-2011 don't come with back up cam, so I bought and installed the group buy cam recently.

So, it's a judgement call depending on whether or not you want to spend an additional $6000. You can definitely add those functions in aftermarket later on, some of which will look and function like OEM, and others not as much. And, it can cost you less than $6000 to do.

aadam_d 03-02-2011 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 966689)
Navi won't add any resale value to your car...not worthwhile in the long run. That package is cool though it is overpriced. You could go with an aftermarket back up camera system and something like a Garmin for nav, if you can't afford the $6000 up front.

My original intention was to buy a Z without nav, but my 40th came fully loaded (in Canada). I have to admit, the iPod integration and other goodies that come with the Nav package are cool little add ons. Pre-2011 don't come with back up cam, so I bought and installed the group buy cam recently.

So, it's a judgement call depending on whether or not you want to spend an additional $6000. You can definitely add those functions in aftermarket later on, some of which will look and function like OEM, and others not as much. And, it can cost you less than $6000 to do.

Thanks buddy! I think i will pass on the nav/sport. Save myself like 120 a month (more gas money :)) I'm just waiting on my insurance company and hopefully I sign this weekend and will join the fams of Z owners!

djpathfinder 03-03-2011 12:17 AM

SPORT PKG...now that's something I would do all over again (Akebono brakes, aero kit, synchro rev match, 19" Rays wheels) IF BUYING A 6MT. But since you're looking at Auto, that nullifies synchro rev match, so the point is questionable. Plus if you're going to mod your car anyway, you could get better brakes, custom wheels and a different aero kit...good luck on your purchase.

1Sweet Z 03-03-2011 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aadam_d (Post 966497)
Hey! yes all this info is REALLY helpful for me. The offer I got was 39500+taxes and that's estimated around 47500 for auto. The financing JUsT dropped march 1st so I'm hoping to get signed this Friday. Don't get me wrong I'd love the navi but the 6000$ difference is not appealing, Im a huge enthusiast and I'm pouring out like half my pay on this car (im 23 and been waiting 7 years to buy my first car; I'm no douche who's parents paid my way. I'm busting my *** for this car) and that 100$ a month could go towards gas! Plus can I really use the backup while I'm driving? I only drive 5km (1 way) to work and for the most part it will be city driving. So every dollar saved on my end is a bonus! Plus I do intend on aftermarket products after the cars paid for. Do you use the navi/backup that much? Do u think it would be a valid expense? Thanks again you guys! Much appreciated

This being your first car, get the best deal you can. I recall buying my first car and being greatful that somebody was lending me money to buy a car. Don't forget you have all the power and if you don't get a good deal, just walk. I think you could push for another $1000 off, that would drop your payments about $25 / month. I went for all the bells and whistles and enjoy the sport / nav combo. As some other posts mention, you could totally do it your way with aftermarket mods. I don't plan on getting aftermarket rims, I like the 19" rays that come with the sport package. The large brake package is sweet too.

Good luck with the purchase and we hope to see you out on the road this spring.

jazz 03-03-2011 12:51 PM

ya, thats why i went with base auto roadster...i have lots of parts already shipping...lol ill have mods before i get the car 50-80 more days!

Quote:

Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 966895)
SPORT PKG...now that's something I would do all over again (Akebono brakes, aero kit, synchro rev match, 19" Rays wheels) IF BUYING A 6MT. But since you're looking at Auto, that nullifies synchro rev match, so the point is questionable. Plus if you're going to mod your car anyway, you could get better brakes, custom wheels and a different aero kit...good luck on your purchase.


sammy 03-03-2011 04:53 PM

I got mine from Lindsay, last summer Chris Pretty gave me a great deal. It was like 3500 off the list price. At the time nobody was even coming close to that price. I got a 2010, sport package, 6mt with the navi. Honestly, I didn't care to have the navi but it was the only thing available with the other options I wanted and the color. Now, I'm loving the fact that I have the navi, it has some very cool convinent features that are fun and useful.
I'm looking forward to driving her again, when the wetaher gets nice.

1Sweet Z 03-03-2011 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammy (Post 968054)
I got mine from Lindsay, last summer Chris Pretty gave me a great deal. It was like 3500 off the list price. At the time nobody was even coming close to that price. I got a 2010, sport package, 6mt with the navi. Honestly, I didn't care to have the navi but it was the only thing available with the other options I wanted and the color. Now, I'm loving the fact that I have the navi, it has some very cool convinent features that are fun and useful.
I'm looking forward to driving her again, when the wetaher gets nice.

I got my quote from Chris too, did you trade in the black on black base? I took that one for a drive to get my appetite wet. I couldn't get him to go any lower than $1800.

We should see each on the road around Lindsay this spring.

sammy 03-04-2011 09:27 AM

Hi There, I traded my RX8 for the 370Z. It was the best move I have ever made, so many issues with the RX8, even though I took extra good care of it.

I'm actually in Toronto. I made the Lindsay connection though a freind. I beleive there was a nicer incentive at the time. Still I'm willing to bet if you shop around you will not get a better deal. Chris is a great guy and really took the time to show me all the tech stuff with the navi and everything.


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