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Official Canadian 370z Invoice Pricing
Knowledge is power. More power to the Canadian consumer!
M6 Transmission Base 370z MSRP: $39998 Base 370z Invoice: $36682 A7 Transmission Base 370z MSRP: $41498 Base 370z Invoice: $38059 Navigation MSRP: $2500 Navigation Invoice: $2292 Sport Pkg MSRP: $4000 Sport Pkg Invoice: $3667 |
cool, thanks
this is a major great find. where did you find it?? |
Thanks Pylon, that's great info!!!!
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if those are true, I wonder how many ppl will be successful in getting anything lower than msrp
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There isn't a lot of room to move on the price considering what it cost to hire staff, rent/mortgage, etc....
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Yup they're true. I have the official documentation from Nissan.
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Here's the price for the 2011 Nissan 370Z Touring
MSRP: $42,878 Invoice: $39,638 I would post the actual car report but I don't know how to. The site I went to was carsaver.ca and their reports are free. Quote:
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what really is the difference for the 2011 and the 2010 model?
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The 2009 -> 2010 was in cabin air filters and heated side mirrors. Dunno if they added anything for 2011.... 3 grand is a huge jump unless they added turbos I didn't hear about....
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2010 --> 2011 added back up cam.
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It sucks that the Canadian consumer still pays so much more than the American consumer for the same thing.
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It sucks even more that I had to pay $40 to get invoice pricing. Where the heck was carsaver when I was car shopping back in the spring of 2010?
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Here's the reports from carsaver. :tup:
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I'm not sure how I'm supposed to be reading the reports.
Invoice is what you can negotiate to, right? MSRP is what the retailer suggests the pricing should be? On the report, the sport package seems to be included, can I assume $39,032 is doable without the options? Can I print it out and use it to negotiate? |
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MSRP = How much the dealer is selling at, without discounts Don't print it out on how much others bought for, because it is basically useless, and may inflict unknown effects to the dealerships. |
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so...what exactly is the use of knowing this? Should I aim for a price inbetween the 2? |
Try to aim for somewhere between 3-10% over invoice. No dealer will sell for the same price that they paid for it.
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It's all about timing. You can buy cars below dealer invoice. I've done it.
You have to consider this. Lets say a dealer buys 10 cars. Lets say for argument sakes, each car is $20,000. Now, over the next month, they sell 9 of those cars for a minimal profit of $1000 each. They've made $9000. So, if the 10th car is sold $1000 below cost, the dealer loses a $1000 and makes an overall profit of $8000. Now, mulitply that by a lot more cars and a lot longer selling period. Early in the year, prices are high and getting deals is harder. Pretty simplistic but as cars sit in dealer showooms, other profits are applied against the cars invoice price to artificially lower it. All dealers do it and that's how you get below invoice pricing on rare occassions. End of model year, or in the case of a Z, winter approaching and you can get them at a much better price point. I bought mine in September pretty much at invoice. If I wasn't dead set on white, I could have gotten a yellow one slightly below invoice for the exact reasons stated above. |
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Normally, MSRP is = around 108% of Invoice. So they make 8% profit. As soon as you walk in the door, you may be offered 2-3% off that 8%. A little haggle will bring that down to 3-4%, or more. PM'ed you details. |
Unless times have changed, the dealer does not buy cars from the manufacturer but sells them on consignment. Dealer 'invoice' is not the true 'net' price of the car. There's a little thing called 'hold back'. Go here and do some reading: new car prices, dealer scams, negotiating, dealer invoice price, Car buying tips
That said, in my neck of the woods, the dealer's attitude is take it or leave it because they are the exclusive Nissan dealer in Halifax and they know that the car will eventually sell for maximum profit. However, I did take Nissan up on their $10K off the 2010 roadster incentive last fall. That was thousands below 'invoice' but I have no way of knowing if that price I paid was above or below the dealer's 'net' price. Mind you I traded my '09 Z touring as part of the deal. Oh, the freight and delivery charges of $1580? We are being gouged. Compare this to our friends south of the border. |
do you have the roadster price with the same break down?
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The sport and Nav invoice prices were identical to the one's listed above, the base A7 invoice amount was slightly different. There total profit the dealership listed was about $3900 over invoice. We were able to get our car (11 Gun Metallic 370Z Coupe A7 w Sport / Nav) for $1400 over invoice ( if you believe the $3900 dollar amount + freebies.. Illum plates & rust proofing) . We had a very good buying experience from our Nissan Dealer and I would recommend them. ---> Trans Canada Nissan in Peterborough(They ended putting the paint sealer on for free as well.) :ugh2: |
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We thought so as well, considering we were ordering it. They had all the power, but decided to make us a happy consumer. I would buy from again.
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2.9% thats so low!
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Yea they just dropped it from 4.9, I was originally going to purchase a genesis coupe but then they dropped interest rates to the same and obviously the 370 is a way better car. I'm planning on going in with 5k down and getting the coupe with auto (don't need sport/nav as I have an iPhone) and my offer was 47500 on road. Think that's a good offer? Any idea on what wait time is?
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Taxes ~$5465 Freight / PDI ~ $1550 (I think this is what I paid) List price: $40485.00 for A7 Base They have only discounted it about $500.00 from MSRP. I think you can get a better deal. I got $2500 off MSRP Not sure who you are dealing with in Toronto. I got better prices from Economy Wheels Nissan in Lindsay - $1800 off MSRP and Trans Canada Nissan in peterborough ( $ 2500 off plus rust proof & illum k.plates as well) - eventually bought from Trans Canada Nissan. As far as leadtimes - they probably have 370z's in transit now from Japan. So there should be availability in your colour and style. I ordered mine in late Oct it took to Feb 1 to come in. Do you know when they came out with the 2.9% interest rate? When I took delivery, my dealer didn't mention any changes in interest rate from 4.9 to 2.9? Hope this information help. btw - get the Nav system it is far superior to the smart phones and the back-up cam is a life saver. If you have not test drove on yet, there are some blind spots. |
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Navi won't add any resale value to your car...not worthwhile in the long run. That package is cool though it is overpriced. You could go with an aftermarket back up camera system and something like a Garmin for nav, if you can't afford the $6000 up front.
My original intention was to buy a Z without nav, but my 40th came fully loaded (in Canada). I have to admit, the iPod integration and other goodies that come with the Nav package are cool little add ons. Pre-2011 don't come with back up cam, so I bought and installed the group buy cam recently. So, it's a judgement call depending on whether or not you want to spend an additional $6000. You can definitely add those functions in aftermarket later on, some of which will look and function like OEM, and others not as much. And, it can cost you less than $6000 to do. |
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SPORT PKG...now that's something I would do all over again (Akebono brakes, aero kit, synchro rev match, 19" Rays wheels) IF BUYING A 6MT. But since you're looking at Auto, that nullifies synchro rev match, so the point is questionable. Plus if you're going to mod your car anyway, you could get better brakes, custom wheels and a different aero kit...good luck on your purchase.
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Good luck with the purchase and we hope to see you out on the road this spring. |
ya, thats why i went with base auto roadster...i have lots of parts already shipping...lol ill have mods before i get the car 50-80 more days!
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I got mine from Lindsay, last summer Chris Pretty gave me a great deal. It was like 3500 off the list price. At the time nobody was even coming close to that price. I got a 2010, sport package, 6mt with the navi. Honestly, I didn't care to have the navi but it was the only thing available with the other options I wanted and the color. Now, I'm loving the fact that I have the navi, it has some very cool convinent features that are fun and useful.
I'm looking forward to driving her again, when the wetaher gets nice. |
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We should see each on the road around Lindsay this spring. |
Hi There, I traded my RX8 for the 370Z. It was the best move I have ever made, so many issues with the RX8, even though I took extra good care of it.
I'm actually in Toronto. I made the Lindsay connection though a freind. I beleive there was a nicer incentive at the time. Still I'm willing to bet if you shop around you will not get a better deal. Chris is a great guy and really took the time to show me all the tech stuff with the navi and everything. |
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