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Originally Posted by Zat_Zuma If you want a "auto" base you will have to go to the states to get one. Lots to choose from and importing a car is

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Old 04-01-2016, 02:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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If you want a "auto" base you will have to go to the states to get one. Lots to choose from and importing a car is easy. Check out Autotrader.com

Unfortunately Nissan Canada doesn't give us the same choices as our southern neighbors. I feel so discriminated against.

Don't get me started about the crappy clutches in 370Z's. I could write a book lol
My wife and I imported an '05 Lexus LS430 5 years ago (and sold it three years ago), so I am intimately familiar with the importation process.

For the heck of it, I just checked out Nissan USA's "build your vehicle". The base with auto trans is minimum $32,125 USD, which today converts to $41,832 CAD. That CAD is without all taxes, import fees, transportation fees, converting to KM/hr as the main scale (which I understand can be done merely by replacing the faceplate on the speedo), etc. The price will end up being less than our minimum auto option, but for less than that amount one can buy a new 2014 auto with all the bells and whistles. Check autotrader.ca listings for BC and you'll see one example. Then there all the used automatic vehicles as options to new.
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I don't know where you shop but I can pick up a new 2016 base automatic for less than $30,000 US (todays exchange $37,500 CDN or less)

But I regress you have a answer for everything and won't agree with anything I tell you anyways. So carry on convincing yourself and whoever will listen.

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I don't know where you shop but I can pick up a new 2016 base automatic for less than $30,000 US (todays exchange $37,500 CDN or less)

But I regress you have a answer for everything and won't agree with anything I tell you anyways. So carry on convincing yourself and whoever will listen.

Exit stage left .................................
someone got hit right in the feelies.

look it's OP's money. we're here to give our opinion. he may or may not agree. he has made up his mind as to what works for him.

another way to look at it.... another z will join our community
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someone got hit right in the feelies.

look it's OP's money. we're here to give our opinion. he may or may not agree. he has made up his mind as to what works for him.

another way to look at it.... another z will join our community
Yup its his money and its his opinion that matters to him.

I just know when to not waste my time and have the ability to find/source out my own answers and don't have to be spoon feed by trolls.
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I don't know where you shop but I can pick up a new 2016 base automatic for less than $30,000 US (todays exchange $37,500 CDN or less)

But I regress you have a answer for everything and won't agree with anything I tell you anyways. So carry on convincing yourself and whoever will listen.

Exit stage left .................................
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Yup its his money and its his opinion that matters to him.

I just know when to not waste my time and have the ability to find/source out my own answers and don't have to be spoon feed by trolls.
Was the exit door stuck, or have you dropped in for another time-wasting kick a the cat?
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I got hit in the feelies too! both feelies!

insurance finally back on today.. just drove around in circles for like 150km all day.

now back in the garage till at least next tuesday or wednesday
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Salesman told me my 2017 nismo is arriving July/August. Another member I talked to said his arrives in July but he's been waiting months before I ordered.

They said my 2016 got damaged during transportation and they refused delivery of it.

There is a 2016 nismo white at woodbine Nissan showroom so maybe my dealership doesn't want to trade with them.

Wonder if they sold it to someone else who wanted to pay more since I got mine for VPP with 2k rebate
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Probably for about a week lol... I just got the tune done now I can't even play

Maybe next week at earliest
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My wife and I went to look at a '10 today, but were not able to test drive it because the owner had not yet insured it after winter storage. I wish the owner had told us this when we were making arrangements to see the vehicle. Had we known that that rather important detail was the case, we may not have traveled to see it.

Anyway, the vehicle had many nice features including nav, but the owner said that it does not have a backup cam, which, after some searching here, I now realize is the case for all '09s and '10s. Up to this point I had assumed that if the vehicle had nav, it also had the cam, so I got some more unexpected education today.

I also did a search about adding an OEM backup cam to the '10's nav and I see that it's possible and I also believe that I could do the installation myself, so that's nice, but I have one simple question. After you add the OEM cam, in addition to the typical fixed guide lines, does the '10 also display the curving lines that vary their position as you turn the steering wheel? If not, what is the first year that has those curving lines?

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Can only speak about '10s, the lines curve with the steering.


When doing the 09 and '10 reverse cam upgrade they are two different units/setups needed. I'm sure you saw this in your search.

I have the complete setup from the car kit company (if typed all one word .com should come up)

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Can only speak about '10s, the lines curve with the steering.


When doing the 09 and '10 reverse cam upgrade they are two different units/setups needed. I'm sure you saw this in your search.

I have the complete setup from the car kit company (if typed all one word .com should come up)

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Darwin, if you were looking at 2010 models I'd also suggest looking at other used models with the sport + touring package as they should be similar in price to a brand new base.

you get the better goodies... just a thought
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Darwin, if you were looking at 2010 models I'd also suggest looking at other used models with the sport + touring package as they should be similar in price to a brand new base.

you get the better goodies... just a thought
I'll keep that in mind. Right now I'm looking at all auto Zs that come up for sale in the base's price area.

Do members here feel that the Canadian Black Book (CBB) reflects market reality? It seems to me that in the Edmonton/Calgary market, average asking prices in Kijiji or AutoTrader are far higher than the average asking price stated in CBB. Some of the asking prices are downright ridiculous -- for example, asking $3K more for a loaded '14 used car than the price of a loaded, brand new '14 leftover.

Anybody else have that impression? Maybe it's just because of the time of year and Alberta's early, summer-like weather.

While I'm typing, do you think that, year for year, automatics are more or less desirable than manuals? I'm just wondering how difficult it is for owners of automatics to sell them, and how this situation might be used to our advantage during negotiation. I ask because there are far more manuals than automatics on the used market. In today's Kijiji, for example, the ratio of manuals to autos is about 2:1. Another reason I ask is because the new leftovers tend to be autos. I'm guessing this is the case because twice as many new manuals are sold than automatics, but why? Is it because people want a manual in a sports car, or is it because the autos are so much more expensive when new (for new Canadian automatics, anyway)?

Here's a good example of what I'm talking about:
2013 Nissan 370Z Stillen Supercharged | used cars & trucks | Edmonton | Kijiji
I know that this amazing automatic vehicle has been for sale for quite some time because I've been looking at 370Z ads for months. Because we were taking a trip to that part of town anyway, my wife allowed us to stop in to see the vehicle. In short, I was wowed by the thing, but it's out of "our" (my wife's) price range. (As I was test driving the base coupe, I could not help but imagine what it must be like to drive a 400-whp paddle-shifter.) But for the long list of stuff that is in that as-new, 17K-km vehicle, I think it is being sold at a very reasonable price, especially considering what a new automatic sells for, or, for that matter, even a used, loaded '13 that has the same kms. So why hasn't that vehicle sold? I believe it is probably because it is an automatic.
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Here in Toronto/GTA Automatics are cheaper when used, I think like you said no one wants them. If you want a fun sports car for the summer - get manual.
All joking aside get what you want, but for resale value and enjoyment get manual. (if the wife doesn't know how to drive manual for $200-300 buy her lessons, everybody that drives manual had to learn)
If you haven't driven one with the sport package, do yourself a favour. Its worth the extra money all day long. Man the brakes are amazing on them.
If you are buying used there isn't much price difference with the sport optioned cars.
As why a used 2014/15 is more than a new one left over on the lot - no idea. Maybe they are a celebrity and think their car is worth more than new some how. Or they are hoping a sucker comes by and doesn't do their research like you have. People can ask as much as they want, what they sell the car for is totally different.
I got mine for $3000 less than the guy was asking just a couple weeks ago.

My 2 cents
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Here in Toronto/GTA Automatics are cheaper when used, I think like you said no one wants them. If you want a fun sports car for the summer - get manual.
All joking aside get what you want, but for resale value and enjoyment get manual. (if the wife doesn't know how to drive manual for $200-300 buy her lessons, everybody that drives manual had to learn)
If you haven't driven one with the sport package, do yourself a favour. Its worth the extra money all day long. Man the brakes are amazing on them.
If you are buying used there isn't much price difference with the sport optioned cars.
As why a used 2014/15 is more than a new one left over on the lot - no idea. Maybe they are a celebrity and think their car is worth more than new some how. Or they are hoping a sucker comes by and doesn't do their research like you have. People can ask as much as they want, what they sell the car for is totally different.
I got mine for $3000 less than the guy was asking just a couple weeks ago.

My 2 cents
Thanks for your input.

My wife already knows how to drive a manual quite well, but for some reason insists upon an auto, and believe me, I've worked on her. But the other better reason that I no longer want a manual is the slave cylinder issue which I very recently learned about. I don't have any strong feeling about either transmission, but I definitely do not want too deal with that slave issue, so auto it will be. Good to hear they're generally less desirable than the manuals.

I'm going to go out on a short limb and assume that the vehicle you just bought is the '12 that is in your info under your username, and that it is also a manual. You say that you got the vehicle for $3000 less than asking. Was the asking price close to the CBB average asking price?

Again, I'll keep the sport-optioned vehicles firmly in mind.

Thanks.
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