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Originally Posted by Darwins Child I asked the Sales Manager when the '17s were due to arrive. He did not know. I asked him if he knew what the "incentive"

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Old 03-31-2016, 10:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I asked the Sales Manager when the '17s were due to arrive. He did not know. I asked him if he knew what the "incentive" would be to sell the remaining '16s. He did not know. I asked him if an auto would be optional on the '17 base. He did not know. So that was an informative conversation.
Oic you talked to one of typical Nissan dealership salesmen and dare I say it managers....... All trained in 5th degree asshatary for not knowing the product they are selling.
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Oic you talked to one of typical Nissan dealership salesmen and dare I say it managers....... All trained in 5th degree asshatary for not knowing the product they are selling.
Yes, I agree, but they have so many different models with so many different trim levels, that it must be hard for sales people and even the sales manager to keep up with everything.

With the internet, we customers are usually already well-educated about one particular vehicle before we step into the show room. Nowadays I'm not surprised to find out that I know more about a particular vehicle than the sales person does. Not only that, but most sales people nowadays freely admit to their ignorance. I guess they feel it's safer to go that route rather than try to BS a customer who does not need "sales pitch".

It's essentially the same with electronics and a wide variety of other products. Expecting absolutely nothing from sales people is the way to go.

That being said, the service dept. is an entirely different situation.

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Thanks for the offer. I appreciate it.

I found the clutch to engage quite high off the floor. Another way to put it is that when you push down to disengage the clutch, from the point where the clutch disengages, the pedal can still travel some distance down to its stop point.

Why Nissan did things this way is beyond me, but the present set up doesn't bother me. It seems to me that the resting position of the pedal could start off closer to the floor with the bottom stop remaining where it is. This would eliminate some of that free travel and maybe make shifting more comfortable. That is, the extended leg could easily hold the pedal all the way down, but not have to lift as high to start engaging the clutch. To me it would then be more predictable just exactly where the clutch would begin to engage.
the high clutch is a 'racelike' feel because you are in a 'race car'

btw the Nissan sales MANAGER should have his screws on and details of every car. his front line salesman not as much. but as a manager you should atleast be able to read the spec sheet off each car in the show room. maybe 12?

when I was buying my Z the sales manager was a dink at a Nissan dealership. I got a used one at an acura dealership. he knew more about the fkin car than the Nissan guy.
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