![]() |
Petro Canada Ultra 94. Yea or nay?
I have always been using Shell because it has no ethanol.
Somewhat intrigued by PC's 94 octane fuel, but it has 10% ethanol. Not sure I like the idea of ethanol. Comments? Thoughts? Thank you. |
Shell is what octane? (Also, how is octane calculated in Canadia?)
And I'd rather go no ethanol for NA |
Shell is 91 which = 10025 in US.
|
I've used both but can't tell the difference... Sorry lol
|
In that case it's not worse it.
|
Ethanol is worse, lol
You might not notice it, but it's worse |
I run PetroCan Ultra 94.
|
Shell has no Ethanol at all or just in Canada?
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
My understanding ,as told by a Petro Canada refinery employee is the 94 octane at Petro Can is supplied by Chevron.Now the Chevron stations do not have any ethanol in their 94 Octane.Only in 91 and lower and not always ,only when ethanol is available.
|
I watched a documentary on gas, apparently Ethanol will give you less mileage.
Basically 100% ethanol vs 100% gasoline, ethanol car travels 300km and gasoline car travels 500km, something similar to that. Shell 91 V power Nitro is what I find lasts longer. 94 oct is for more power but you wont get as far as Shell V power. There's your info, choose which suites you best. Last longer or more power :/ |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Apparently Husky also has 94 octane gas (with ethanol).
|
For what it's worth, I've run Shell V-Power for the last 225,000 miles, no problems car still pulls good, and get the same mileage I always have. In the US when I've been out there with the car I do find I get better mileage with the gas in general. Also I run the highest octane available when I fill up in the US, I try to only fill up at Shell there also, but if I can't find one I try and stick with "good" brands.
|
The ethanol content if its < E10 is pretty negligible -- it more like any odd hiccups (random miss) might be attributed to it in the absence of a better explanation, but really its fine.
The 94 octane (assuming AKI rather than RON) is worth it if you are tuned and running a little more ignition advance or the car sees hot laps on the track -- otherwise, I doubt you'll find much of a difference in power either. On the other hand, it certainly won't hurt -- what's the price difference compared to 91 and can you get 93? |
Quote:
Quote:
I figured, you know what he knows more about that crap then me, after that I made the switch :tup: Cooltoy - I have noticed at petro-can when you look at the grades of gas the 94 does not have any mention of ethanol on the label/sticker/sign for selecting grade. Where the lower grades are one big label/sticker/sign that covers all 3 grades and that sticker has the **may contain up to 10% ethanol. I think what ta-kid posted is correct no ethanol and the fuel is coming from a chevron refinery. |
Taken from the Petro Canada FAQ
Quote:
Petro-Canada Canada’s Gas Station Home Page - Petro-Points - Petro-Canada and CIBC MasterCard Shell Canada V-Power NiTRO+ info, Shell V-Power NiTRO+ - Canada Shell Canada V-Power NiTRO+ FAQ, Shell V-Power NiTRO+ FAQs - Canada |
Quote:
•Shell V-Power NiTRO+ is effective in all gasoline-powered engines found in conventional, modern and hybrid vehicles as well as motorcycles, snowmobiles, and leisure marine vehicles. •Shell V-Power NiTRO+ premium gasoline in Canada does not contain ethanol. So sounds like we're good in Canada with Shell V Power for no ethanol...other then what's left in the hose from the last person. |
PetroCanada website says that it now has ethanol.
|
Gas in Canada
Quote:
104 |
Quote:
Quote:
few cents more for the 94 compared to 91 at PC but imho i wouldn't get the 91 at PC if they offer 94 Quote:
now that i think about it i'm sort of thinking how that will store in the winter asorbing moisture and such. :eekdance: |
Quote:
At the end of the day, use whatever octane you like as long as it's premium being put into your Z. Now, if you're someone to complain about the difference in price per liter, why buy a sports car? :eekdance: |
Gas price was the last thing on my mind last year buying my z.
|
Frankly, I'm more put off by the claim of "7 times the detergents" than I am by up to 10% of ethanol...
that and their admission of marketing hype... "In addition, 20% of all Shell consumers buy premium, but 80% of these consumers believe all premiums are the same. We launched Shell V-Power NiTRO+ Premium Gasoline so we could address this growing consumer demand in the industry and differentiate Shell from other premiums." Translation: We can nail a large share of premium petrol users if we slap a fancy name on our already fancy sounding "V power" formulation. Anyway, either is probably fine, but the higher octane if the price/gal difference is small is probably the safer bet if you beat on your car or plan to do any tuning where you might nudge up the power, in part, by leaning out the mixture and/or raising the ignition timing. There is no evidence of the ECU advancing timing beyond whatever its highest allowable value - BUT, the higher octane will help ensure you don't lose timing from incipient knock under heavy load. If you plan on doing tuning, I'd say go for max power and tune for the 94. |
Nope, staying stock.
|
The problem I see with tuning for 94 is if you travel...you may not always find a good 94. I for one travel a LOT with my Z and kept it mostly stock-ish for that reason.
|
So the car needs to be tuned for it. I can't just put it in and try it?
|
I wouldn't worry about 94 or 91 on stock tune and you can fill 94 on stock tune. However, if you car is only tuned with 94, then you stuck with 94 and really the only problem with it is it's not available everywhere. When my car with stock and I tried comparing the two gas. I noticed the car lasted longer with shell 91 but I got better throttle response with 94 (got 80km less to a tank). At the end, use whatever you personally like as long as the octane rating is 91 (premium) you got to go
|
Tuning for 94 is fine if 94 is available in your area. If you travel outside your area and only 87 is available then you have two choices: a) Fill with 87 and carry on with no effect on the engine except timing will be retarded if the engine detects knock or b) tow your car to a gas station with 94. I know what I would do.
|
Quote:
Quote:
|
I had my car tuned in the US with Sunoco 93 octane. Here I use PetroCan Ultra 94. When I was in California and needed gas I switched maps to my 91 octane map and used Shell 91. If you have a custom tune get a 91 octane map. It's a piece of cake for the tuner to do.
If you're running a stock tune, you can switch between 91 and 94 octane without issue. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
However instead of blow engine mine is mapped as a kill switch and you need to change map back to get car to start :tiphat: |
Case in point, AB Canada is very short on V-Power right now...found out the hard way today, good thing I still had 1/2 a tank.
|
Alberta is short on many things right now. Good government, jobs....., but I digress.
|
Quote:
Edit- could be worse, you could be living in Ontario. |
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:42 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2